Posted on 10/15/2012 10:17:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
I am reminded of people abandoning freedom for security deserving neither. Unless of course some ‘Republican conservatives’ think they are smarter and wiser than the FF.
If the cost of America’s ‘salvation’ is gays continuing to usurp her military and her social norms, then yes, the cost is too high.
If the cost is that we accept the words of a campaign over a lifetime of actual actions that contradict, then yes, the cost is too high.
America is at it’s core an idea. A “Principle”. And if we abandon that which made America what it is, then there “IS” no America to save. And what remains is not worth saving.
A non vote in this coming election is the same as voting for the Obunghole, thats how close the margine is. Some so called conservatives had better grow up and understand that voting for the lesser of 2 evils is some times necessary. I’d rather eat strychnine than cyanide, I can get over strychnine poisoning but the cyanide will just kill me. You so called conservative children; who would rather not vote, or vote for a third party candidate who has as much chance of winning as I have of swimming to the moon had better be ready to bend over and grab your ankles. Because you are going to get horse f###ed, and there ain’t going to be any K-Y jelly to make it slide in any easier.
Romney wasn’t my choice either but he is what I have to work with now, the other choice is that Stalinist illegitimate piece of sh#t that will take every thing I have worked for all my life and give it to his home boys.
I got shot in 1969 just so you could VOTE you ungrateful bastard, NOW GET OUT THERE AND DO IT.
You don’t have to like the choices, but you do have to make one!!
You got shot so that someone could vote as YOU wanted them? Was that really your intent? If it wa, then there’s a problem.
Personally I think you are full of CRAP. You did not get the candidate of your choice so now you will make the entire country suffer.
Sounds like a three year old throwing a tantrum to me.
No Problem. When you define exactly and logically where my posts on this thread are incorrect, then you can spout whatever you like and people will take you seriously.. Until then, you just look like the people you fought against ‘demanding’ that the people conform to their personal desires.
Again, did you really fight/get shot so that a supposedly free people could vote as your personal demands required? Really? I think you demonstrably misunderstand ‘freedom’ if that’s the case.
I didn’t tell him who to vote for smart ass, I just told him to VOTE.
I would hope any body with two brain cells to rub together would use his/her franchise wisely.
You want to vote for you dog or Donald Duck, so be it.
But be advised, they are not going to win and that equates to one less vote for the lesser of two evils.
This is how far America has fallen.
Freedom now means even to a people on a forum dedicated to Conservatism, that we must vote for the Ruling Class Statist we are told to vote for.
In this cycle’s case, a Democrat Socialist - who now is being called a Conservative, when his record is nearly the same as Obama’s.
We’re being lectured to abandon principles and suck up to a man with a record of supporting and championing evil for the sake of supposedly defeating evil.
No thanks.
I’ll stand on principle - even if I stand alone. The rest are welcome to seig heil and goose-step to the party beat in the name of survival - but I won’t do it.
There is an accounting that comes due after this life.
Smart ass? No. You want him to vote Romney don’t you? Isn’t that the issue? You are hazzing a tizzy because he will not vote for the lesser of two LIBERALS?
If that is not the case then WTF exactly is your problem?
How can conservatives voting for liberal candidate's each election cycle reverse liberalism and take the country back from the liberals..the answer is it cant.
I may be an ungrateful bastard but your getting shot doesn't give you or anyone else the moral superiority to ask, let alone demand, conservatives vote for liberals.
“I’d rather eat strychnine...”
“See - they like strychnine. Let’s give them more strychnine.”
That is one reason I’m tending not to vote Romney, as they will just push more of the same on us. Secondly, as a poster wrote earlier, it is not just one or two of his viewpoints and/or past actions that go against my views and my morals - it is a whole bunch of them. And finally - I am in a state where Obama will win regardless, so my vote doesn’t matter. But - there are other reasons why I might still vote for Romney.
Especially after watching the Ryan/Biden debate I am tempted to abandon my principles just exact some minor form of spite to Biden and that stupid grin. Am also reminded of the old “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” thing. Although that could also be said of the rebels in Libya and that didn’t work out so well.
Seriously - I am still undecided (well, between Romney and a write-in). Although if I was in a swing state I would probably be voting for Romney. In his recent speeches the things he says regarding the economy and foreign affairs I agree with for the most part. (And again “Its the economy, stupid”.)
Regardless of how I end up voting - thank you for your service that allows me to vote!
It just proves that America is closer to it’s end than anyone wants to believe.
The abject stupidity I see in the excuses people make is unreal. No logical thought, no cause and effect. They are deluding themselves out of fear and sheepish mindsets.
The end result is that MR will win, the country will go further left at a marginally slower pace and at some point, nothing that once defined America as “America” will remain.
In the coming 4 years, watch closely on FR and other forums. The same people now screaming for us to vote Romney will be the loudest voices bitching when he returns to his Mass style governance. Their excuse then as now will be “Well we had to defeat Obama.
They could have done it with a conservative. But instead they bitched their way into Romney. They have only themselves to blame.
Sure. Rom will be great on the economy. But America is a lot more than it’s economy. Or at least it was before so many got cold feet....
Now it’s just a Euro experiment gone wrong.
You know; by this time in my life I would have thought I was to smart to get into arguments with fools, they just drag you down to their level and try to beat you with experience.
By this time I should know better than to try to explain any thing to a person who spends all their time in front of a mirror, telling themselves how much smarter and superior to every one else they are.
I AM superior to someone that refuses to answer challenges to asinine assertions and demands his fellow Americans exercise their remaining freedom as he personally sees fit.
FAR superior. But you just keep thinking otherwise.
Once again 40 watter; I don’t care who or what he/she votes for, but every one should be aware of the consequences of their vote. A refusal to vote; in my opinion is cowardice, a vote for a non-entity is nothing more than voting present.
I may not like the candidate any more than you do, but I like the alternative even less. I will not waste my vote on a nobody like Joe Sh#t The Rag Man, who simply cannot make a difference. If you want to change what we have available in the future, be cautious about who you vote for in the down ticket. Work hard for the young candidates that are worthy of your vote and try to get them elected now.
Remember they will be your choices in the future.
And yes; I did get shot, lower left abdomen and peppered with grenade shrapnel on the right side. 3 months in the hospital at Kobi, Japan.
40 watts is like the sun in a room filled with darkness.
If you don’t care who he votes for, then logically, why would you care if he votes at all? Please explain. Because if you didn’t care, why would you comment at all? Or why should this thread even matter to you?
Thank you for your service but as I recall everyone who was shot at was not shot and I fail to see how that distinction gives you any more or less insight into the consequences of ones vote. You have an opinion which in my view fails to recognize that the liberal with the R after his name is no better than the other guy..
It took only a little over ten minutes before the tiresome folks who have been waging jihad against the Republicans’ presidential nominee began to make their predictable appearance here. Obama loves you guys.
Yeah, that sure makes me want to vote for Romney.
NOT.
One thing is for certain, this election has revealed utterly how fake many of the so-called Conservatives on this site really are.
Lesser of two evils still results in evil.
So no sale.
You're not alone. There are a bunch of us here with you, despite the party-first ABO crowds best attempts to drown us out.
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