Posted on 10/17/2012 8:09:45 PM PDT by djf
Seen this?
If you’ve read the article, then you know this is NOT a “study” in any meaningful sense of the word. This is a survey of various reputable studies which have been cherry-picked to support the principle author’s thoroughly discredited claim that mercury causes autism. Now she is attempting to put that claim forward through a new “mechanism” because the vaccine hypothesis has blown up in her face. There is not one toxicologist or geneticist contributor to this “study,” and one of the authors is a professional ambulance chaser. In fine and in some, it’s nonsense.
More blather from those desperate to find a cause. The research does not support such conclusions. Corn syrup has been used for more than a hundred years folks. The ‘autism professionals’ keep changing the definition and the scope so more and more people can be so classified.
Another voice of reason. That makes a grand total of three of us.
You should un-hear it, because it isn’t true.
The quoted low autism rate in the Amish is nonsense and has been refuted multiple times by pediatricians who actually treat the Amish.
Humans use D sugars and L amino acids. L sugars and D amino acids are toxic. That optically active carbon is important. Racemization is the characteristic of having a mix of D and L forms. In the case of vitamin E, only the D isomer is biologically active. Cheap drugstore vitamin E is often half inactive racemized junk. Review your biochemistry.
It's actually laughable.
There is no original research, simply a "data analysis" of other studies which in and of themselves reputable. In short: the author is a vaccination conspiracy theorist who's had the rug pulled out from under her, so now she's cherry pricking dietary findings in order to come up with a new "epigenetic pathway" to facilitate her "mechanism." It's completely invalid statistically and experimentally, and I wonder what kind of "peer review" this "journal" uses to allow such an article to be published.
“Review your biochemistry.”
He’s too busy insisting that he’s intellectually superior.
But before you go back to your sophomore chemistry books (if you ever studied from one) go back to first grade and study your Dick and Jane, because your reading comprehension needs work.
Isomers aren't structurally the same molecule, which this poster claimed. Derp.
In particular, Enantiomers aren't structurally the same molecule; they're mirror images of each other. Duh?!
READ what the poster posted, and READ what I actually responded to. Then you can send me an apology via private FReepmail, so you don't have to publicly humiliate yourself.
“Churches always wanted me to do stuff within their organization and I would see the bickering, backstabbing, clicks that didn’t like other clicks, etc.. and I wanted peace so I don’t go anymore. I am a dedicated member of Christ’s church not on earth. ... Anyway, now I have church by myself and Jesus Christ in my house.”
You aren’t alone! Many believers have taken refuge from the church culture to find fellowship in homes and coffee shops.
You would enjoy reading the following books:
George Barna, Revolution
http://www.amazon.com/Revolution-George-Barna/dp/1414307586
“Barna examines the state of the church today—and compares it to the biblical picture of the church as God intended it to be. He documents how and why a new brand of devout “Revolutionaries” is abandoning the local church building while attempting to become the church that Christ commissioned us to be.”
Frank Viola, Reimagining Church: Pursuing the Dream of Organic Christianity
http://www.amazon.com/Reimagining-Church-Pursuing-Organic-Christianity/dp/1434768759/
“Viola, a leader in the house church movement, believes the church as we know it today is nothing like what God intended it to be. According to Viola, the first-century church, which should be our pattern, met in homes without any official pastor.”
Have you considered finding some fellow refugees and being Church together? There is a growing movement of people doing just that.
I concur.
That's baloney, and you defended it with an irrelevant demurral about racemization, which involves molecules which are NOT structurally identical.
You then presumed to send me to school, but unfortunately, your own post is also factually incorrect. D-amino acids are not universally toxic; neither are L-sugars. L-gulose and L-fructose occur in nature and the studies confirm they are effectively metabolized.
Review your biochemistry.
So it’s not due to global warming?
Epigenetics is kinda sorta a little bit like our regular understanding of genetics.
But epigenetics has to do not so much with what genes you may or may not have, but which of those genes are or are not turned on.
And the turning on/turning off of the genes is highly affected by environmental factors.
Actually, since I'm a PhD level biochemist, I'm fairly aware of the emerging field of epigenetics. I'd be interested in working in that field if I were still a bench (research) scientist.
My previous comment was based on the attribution of autism on the consumption of eating one particular kind of naturally occurring sugar from one particular source. There is no difference in fructose from different sources.
A big problem with studies that I didn't mention in my previous comment is that, at the P < 0.05 level of significance that is the standard for accepting something as biologically relevant, 1 out of 20 studies makes the wrong conclusion.
The problem I have with these studies is that so far, as far as I know, they can show no PHYSICAL difference in autistic cases. No damage or underdevelopment of any of the brain centers, no biochemical or other markers, no obvious deficiencies or changes to neural functions.
All they base their data on is behavioral models.
Even given that we may not have a complete understanding of what exactly is happening, we can still look at correlations. And there is no doubt that the rise in autism correlates with increased HFCS consumption.
But autism also correlates with increased margarine consumption.
Autism also correlates with Mario Brothers and reduced exercise.
When I was young, my mother, a Catholic, ate fish on Fridays... autism correlates with the decrease in that tradition.
I see these things as tantalizing hints until we have more concrete answers. And one of the fudging factors introduced by epigenetics is that the answer for what YOU should eat might be very different from what I should eat!
Look on the little code on the sticker. If it’s 5 numbers long and starts with an 8, it’s genetically modified. I don’t buy them.
“When that molecule has the same number of atoms, the same kinds of atoms, and the same structure, it is physically indistinguishable from any other identical molecule.”
Indistinguishable by our current level of understanding. There is far more to atomic structure than we can measure or even imagine.
I am a nuke engineer and did research for many years. Once you dig down, you see we are far from truly understanding anything.
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