Skip to comments.So, About That Debate Thing Tonight...
Posted on 10/22/2012 10:41:15 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
So, the debates are FINALLY over and done. The media is calling it a 3 to 1 win for Obama/Biden although in all reality it is the other way around or a tie with the loss going to Mitt Romney tonight.
Judging from friends and a large number of politico's I associate with...most had turned the debate off after the first 30 minutes or were watching the NLCS Game 7 on Fox.
Enough is enough.
My most hardcore of Conservative friends and relatives saw Romney for what he truly is deep down inside...a moderate Republican who is a gentleman, good husband, good father, good grandfather, and good businessman.
Tonight after the first softball was tossed Romney's way by the moderator, Romney opted to settle for a quick bunt to move a runner over to steal 3rd base in the bottom of the 9th inning in a tie game instead of swinging for the fences.
This was perfectly set up like Albert Pujols staring down a rookie pitcher who has thrown 120 pitches and is trying for a complete game.
Instead Mitt Romney came in to the debate and played like A-Rod. Stared at easy pitches, took strikes, and at the end of the game felt good about himself because his team was at least in the World Series and why try hard now since he has Team Tea Party, Team Coal, Team Wall Street, and Team Sick of Obama playing their hearts out.
Yes, Obama showed us what a weak lying sack of crap he is, but Conservatives already knew that. The fact checking won't mean squat when you see the headlines, post-debate polls, and missed opportunities that Romney and his entire campaign team have whiffed on day in and day out.
"This was all executed to be exactly this way by Romney himself."
These horrific words were uttered by Rob Portman. Really? You call waiting the clock out and letting Obama get punch after punch in while you land the occasional punch to the gut and upper cut when the other guy is re-adjusting his hands a winning formula?
The bottom line is Mitt Romney looked presidential and that counts for style points.
The reason Romney is even in this thing right now is based off of his Game 1 performance when he was on fire and throwing bombs at Obama all night long. THAT is the Mitt Romney that SHOULD have shown up tonight.
I have heard and read countless Conservatives gloat tonight that Romney was great by getting Obama on the record as a liar and will be fact checked etc...WHO CARES?
The guy has been getting fact checked by Conservatives for years and nothing happens. Zero happens to a zero.
Do I think Romney lost the election tonight? No. Do I think the momentum has been stopped as of tonight? Yes. Do I think he helped his case? No. He is losing every post-debate poll...you know..the polls that everyone was gloating about after Game 1? Look at the Drudge Report? Remember Game 1? He had about 12 links up of polls and people calling Obama out.
Don't fool yourselves with the "Romney did what he had to do" crap because he didn't. His job was to go sit at that table for 90 minutes and call Obama out on every single lie about Libya and every association with the Muslim Brotherhood and tie radical links back to his White House.
Instead we got treated to more talk about things already discussed in previous debates.
Blown opportunity. He could have put him away tonight. Now we have to wait this freaking mess out because Captain Indecision couldn't make up his mind to be a friend or fight.
You let a Chicago street punk jive talk you into a corner and make you look OLD.
Unfortunately for us...most Americans today only care about style and very little about the substance and tonight Obama of 2008 came back to that table with fire in his belly and arrogance in his throat and told Mitt Romney where to shove it...that this was HIS job...get out of the way.
So now we are left with the Super PAC's, Tea Party, and Grassroots Conservatives to clean up this mess and cross our fingers that "The Donald" wasn't bluffing and has something explosive to knock Obama down for a week or so because tonight needs to be washed out of the 40 million or so memories that watched this wasted opportunity tonight.
Good grief....this is why Newt Gingrich would have been an epic choice to run against this thug. He wouldn't have stood a chance on any single night.
Thanks GOP Elite. We get to wait out another nail biter election due to "YOUR" candidate.
What you said.
Sure wish we’d have had Newt instead of Squishy. Bleh.
Well, at least we still have Trump’s big “surprise” on Wednesday!!
Newt said it over and over and over and over again in every speech and in every debate....”At the end of the day who do you want debating Barack Obama in the debates? I will be relentless with his record and his words and make sure he loses this election at all costs.”
I think you are letting your biases impact your opinion. Even the worst poll, PPP, showed Obama lost independents and Romney gained independents in this debate. I would love to see Romney in aggressive mode, but he didn’t need to be. You saw tonight who was winning and who was losing. A desperate sitting president making wild accusations, one after another. He looked desperate, and the followup on his slams of the Navy and his other whoppers will be just as damaging as those after the 2nd debate.
Well think about this, if Newt couldn’t beat Mitt in the primaries, what makes you think he would beat Obama?
Four hours ago I was saying to friends and family that I really wish Donald Trump would sit it out and let this thing run its course because I was convinced that there was no way Romney wasn’t going after Obama tonight on his chaotic foreign policy and especially Libya.
Right now? I am actually waiting on another Trump PR stunt to erase this entire joke of a night. Horses and bayonets.
Newt stood no chance in the primaries because the GOP-e decided they wanted Romney after giving 2008 to McCain. It’s all about whose turn next it is. Newt was cut off of all funding and couldn’t mount a good campaign at all due to endless smears from Mitt during the primary season in Florida and some other states where the mailers were just disgusting.
Newt ain’t perfect. Nobody is. But he sure as hell would have schooled the hell out of the school boy from Kenya...that’s for damn sure.
ilgipper nailed it. Tonight was not about us or the disgust we have with Obama. Tonight was a final chance to reassure splinter-crotched wafflers that Romney is a safe choice. Based on our emotion Romney was wrong. Based on pure logic he was correct.
The trend line will remain with Romney. The rest of us made up our mind long ago.... tonight was about the undecided voters.
If Newt, Lincoln-Douglas would have become
The elite couldn’t con me, I voted for NEWT!
Again, I don’t think Romney lost the election tonight but what he did lose was momentum. All he needed was a first round knock out and he didn’t deliver it to the utter SHOCK of every cable news reporter who by the way are just as shocked that Obama didn’t use the 47% line again.
Same here ;)
Undecided voters = uninformed lazy voters. Therefore, they don't know when 'the boy' was lying.
It didn’t take me long to figure out the Romney strategy tonight. Don’t get overly aggressive. Show that you’re competent and avoid the bitterness that marred the second debate.
Conservatives love to see this charlatan in the White House beaten down like the fraud he is. Independents and the squishy middle undecideds? They want solutions. they want to feel comforted that the guy they are about to vote into the White House can answer the 3 a.m. call in addition to fixing the economy.
Romney did just that.
You wrote a well-thought out piece, however, I totally disagree with you on some major points. Mitt did let a few things go by, however, he didn’t take the bait being dangled before his eyes. That’s what the left wanted - to drag him down into the weeds and gutters with them. He didn’t play their game.
He also doesn’t have inside information to all that is happening within the WH, so in that regard - he did remarkably well. I do think Mitt let Benghazi slide, but there must have been reasons for it. I think he wanted to show a distinct difference between him and Obama in the area of class. Mitt showed class and respect to a sitting POS, er, I mean president. If he had gotten down in the mud with Obama - he would have looked silly. Zero stayed in the mud and showed himself to be the petulant, snotty, arrogant radical that he is.
If people think this is how you win a debate, then I gesture that many aren’t aware of what does and doesn’t make a good debate.
Thy Will Not Mine Be Done.
Obama is finished and Romney was magnanimous.
If that isn’t the case then God himself has chosen against us
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