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1 posted on 11/16/2012 8:39:31 PM PST by SquarePants
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Cloward-Piven. Push policies that make things worse and worse and worse. That way everyone will see the wisdom of your policies and be eager to march toward a socialist utopia where no one ever works at all.


2 posted on 11/16/2012 8:45:46 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Global Warming is a religion, and I don't want to be taxed to pay for a faith that is not mine.)
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3 posted on 11/16/2012 8:45:56 PM PST by Brandonmark (OWCM is The new American Minority!)
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Back in 1981 and 1982 I worked for Sweetheart Cup located at 71st and Kostner Ave. in Chicago.

I worked in the factory doing everything from working on the conveyor lines, driving a forklift, working the cup making machines, repairing the conveyor system, you name it.

I was working there to save money to go to College (my first time) and because I worked in the factory that also made the "Sweetheart Cones" I had to be a member of the Bakers and Confectioner's union - which is now part of the Union that caused Hostess to go under.

I cannot think of a more WORTHLESS union than the Bakers & Confectioners union. Took $16 out of my paycheck every two weeks and did NOTHING in return.

In fact, it was the Bakers & Confectioner's union's rules that cost a man his life at Sweetheart Cup.

The union's rules ensured that a known DRUNK at the factory was allowed to drive a clamp forklift. Those forklifts lifted 4,500+ pound rolls of paper and loaded them onto the cup machines. Those rolls were HUGE, and stacked 5-7 rolls high.

This DRUNK that the Union said had to be trained to drive the clamp forklift because it was "his turn in line" ended up running this huge clamp forklift into a stack of paper rolls, knocking them over and killing someone.

I saw it happen and I quit that day.

Like I said, I cannot think of a more WORTHLESS and I'll add CORRUPT union than the "Bakers & Confectioners" union.

5 posted on 11/16/2012 8:46:56 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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Yea, Union wins, workers lose. I can’t imagine giving up a paycheck for a principle, at least not for an 8 percent principle. Because of the selfishness of a few 18,000 lose their jobs. Gee, aren’t unions wonderful.


6 posted on 11/16/2012 8:49:03 PM PST by doc1019
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Hostess is/was one of the bigger clients at my own job. Thsi affects my own job, too. The people I talked to from hostess deal in data and sales. They made regular salaries and are very very nice people. One guy has been with the co. for many years, is fairly old and may have a tough time finding new work.


7 posted on 11/16/2012 8:53:44 PM PST by babyfreep
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Legalized extortion....


9 posted on 11/16/2012 8:54:19 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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Hah! Hah! Take that, capitalist thugs! You one-percenters!

Stickin’ it TO the MAN!


10 posted on 11/16/2012 8:55:33 PM PST by Jeff Winston
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A majority of these idiots are comfortable with an idea of loosing their jobs. Why work for a couple a bucks if you can do nothing and still has your 1.5 bucks? Welfare is a problem, ruined work ethics and basic human honor as well.


11 posted on 11/16/2012 8:57:29 PM PST by cunning_fish
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Liberals don't learn.

That is their shame. Not stupidity, not malice, not depravity. But their absolute refusal - absolute refusal - to learn.

And what is it they refuse to learn?

That denial doesn't work.

Even God won't forgive that.

12 posted on 11/16/2012 8:58:39 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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Union folks don’t want to own a piece of the company, that would make them part of the anti-union establishment. When you are unionized mentally, you are so against being part of the company that employs you that you would rather starve then become part of the “company”.

Union members are, for the most part, mental midgets, brainwashed by their leaders.


16 posted on 11/16/2012 9:04:48 PM PST by doc1019
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...the closure of 33 bakeries, 565 distribution centers, approximately 5,500 delivery routes and 570 bakery outlet stores throughout the United States.

And these are the direct impacts, what about the in-direct hits to other businesses and vendors?

20 posted on 11/16/2012 9:11:39 PM PST by Brandonmark (OWCM is The new American Minority!)
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My employer doesn’t discriminate against minorities, women, the aged, but if your work history shows you were in a union, you’re not going to get hired.


22 posted on 11/16/2012 9:13:42 PM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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You wouldn’t think the Administration and liberals would be crowing at the news. Aren’t these food nazis always trying to put “empty calorie snack foods” out of business because of alleged links to obesity, etc.? This should be a big victory for Moochelle and the gang.

So what if a small city no longer has jobs anymore? We got twinkies and ding dongs out of the mouths of children and that should be cause to celebrate for any food nazi statist.


23 posted on 11/16/2012 9:14:50 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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How many or how few “Oven Operator” positions will these people be competing for, 40?


24 posted on 11/16/2012 9:17:50 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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Let’ nationalize. Government Hostess! How’s that sound? Next step government twenny dollar cathouses, division of... Government Hostess!


30 posted on 11/16/2012 9:27:08 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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Hostess wanted employees to take an 8% pay cut. Now the employees are out 100% while the union management risked NOTHING. During 2013-2014 the unions are going to suffer membership dues as laid off employees contribute nothing.
36 posted on 11/16/2012 9:54:16 PM PST by 2010Freeper
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My mother used to work for Wonder Bread. She was the comptometer operator/bookeeper, who balanced all the receipts and kept all the books for the drivers. They weren’t the brightest group in the world and she had to do all the book keeping for them.

She did keep the bread drawer stocked with hostess products, though. At that time, they also had a line of restaurant products, like a strawberry short cake that was loaded with whipped cream and strawberries. It was probably the same cake that was in the twinkies and the pies were probably the same as the fried pies that they sold individually, except baked instead fried.

She kept the drawer for me because I was so severely under weight that the doctor told her to feed me whatever I would eat. Mostly we ate the brownies. Twinkies were never a favorite.


37 posted on 11/16/2012 9:55:18 PM PST by Eva
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The sad thing is that most of the employees voted to accept new contracts. One hold out union decided to screw everyone. With the exception of Trump people don't go into bankruptcy for kicks. The majority of the workers knew the company was in serious trouble and were willing to help. Most of them were Teamsters (I'm a withdrawn member). The Teamsters got a wake up call after CF went under; they realized that if they kill off all the host critters they will have nothing to feed on. Some unions don't get that fact. Public sector unions are the worst, but UAW is very bad and so is it seems the bakery worker's union. I do feel for the people who lost their jobs due to competing unions; I was a Meat Cutter 20 yrs ago and lost my good paying job because of the strike vote of the grocery worker's union. Eventually the whole chain went under, but us skilled workers w/o much seniority got let go first.
38 posted on 11/16/2012 9:56:11 PM PST by logic101.net (Support OUR troops, NOT their's!)
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My husband freezes twinkies and eats them like a popsickle. Unless the union rank-and-file revolt, there's nothing can be done. I heard on the news a union spokesperson saying the union wants to work with the people who buy the company. What?! These people are nuts! Who would want to work with those creeps? Bye bye America.
43 posted on 11/16/2012 10:11:35 PM PST by Saundra Duffy ( For victory & freedom!!!)
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Just before the holidays - all those folks out of work. This is a human nightmare!!!


44 posted on 11/16/2012 10:12:43 PM PST by Saundra Duffy ( For victory & freedom!!!)
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