[moonshinner_09]

Can guys like this provide anyone with a straightforward answer of how are illegals able to pay taxes ? How do taxes get paid and with what documents do they use? I'd like to see a break down of how much do illegals cost the school systems, how much money do illegals cost the medical system, how much money do illegals cost in terms of getting their own dream act , how much of net benefit is there when all the factors are included.That pay property taxes , many have from 2-4 families living in one home/apt. I know the Hispanic down the road from me small 2 bedroom home he rents, it has 7 men,1 woman,1, 8 year old child. I see these 3 hispanics get pickedup by a van,they return later in the evening, I only see them leave the home,they come back to the home after that you never see them again, until next work day begins or ends,that's it. His latest group comes from GA is what car plates indicate..Their car never moves either.

[GeronL]

I bet most illegal aliens (not “immigrants”) are on welfare of some type

[ClearCase_guy]

If I pay sales taxes, but do not pay income taxes, I'd call it a sweet deal. If anyone chastised me for stiffing the IRS, I'd say, "What?!? I pay sales tax!!"

What a bunch of BS. Illegals do not carry their weight. We pay for the good things they get. It's wrong.

I would, however, love to see something like the Fair Tax. Scrap the whole income tax, and make everyone pay something like 17% sales tax on every retail purchase. If that were in place, then I would nod my head and say, "At least those illegals pay the same taxes that I do."

[Tucker39]

“bantered about” would have been more accurate as “bandied about,” FWIW.

Also, this article makes several assumptions; not the smallest of which, is, that these pro-illegal-immigrant NGOs will tell you the unvarnished truth about these things.

[chuckee]

So they pay sales and property taxes. Big deal.Net net they receive more in benefits than they pay in taxes. For every dollar in tax they pay they receive $3 in benefits. They are a net loss. If this were a business and you are losing on every unit you sell because the production cost is higher than the sales cost per unit, the solution is not to increase your sales volume. Amnesty is analagous to increasing sales volume on a losing product.

[Slambat]

“Beliefs about immigrants may be false”
But most likely they are not.

Would Centro Latino (Mexican Central) be totally honest about these stats. I doubt it.
$11.2 billion in state and local taxes....
Yea maybe nation wide. If they know you can’t keep them out
of the country then why should they feel they are obligated
to pay taxes? This article smells like freshly laid bunk.

[Regulator]

Spanish-speaking and non-Spanish-speaking members of our community

Notice how he diminishes and de-nationalizes the Americans by relegating our language - English - to second class status: everything is judged by whether it is hispanic or not (like the current practice of the "American" government classifying the Americans as "non-hispanic white").

Classic propaganda, designed to not just lower the status of the citizenry but to elevate the status of the invading force above the citizens, and de-legitimize the American nationality.

But out here in the West we have seen it all before. The deed is done, and our legislatures are now essentially run by Mexico, with one aim: loot the gringos, and occupy their land. Oh and, rule them....

Treason it was in California and Treason it is in North Carolina, the birthplace of the Revolution.

My ancestor hung the Tory Riddle from the Oak Tree in Wilkes County. That was for robbing and killing Patriots as a Loyalist.

Let the same fate lie ahead for the foreign occupiers and colonizers and the traitors who invite them in and employ them, inflicting disunion on our nation.

[txrefugee]

These must be really stupid illegals. In Texas, illegals file for the Earned Income Credit and get back $20,000-$30,000 by claiming numerous children back in Mexico as their dependents, including nephews and nieces. Of course, no one checks to see if these children even exist.

Car dealerships know when these cheats get their IRS payments, because Spanish speaking individuals show up to buy new pickup trucks with $30,000 in cash...sweet.

These squatters know every trick in the book for skating around our laws, particularly since Obama has pulled the teeth of ICE. They now know they have nothing to fear in the Land of the Freeloader.

[WilliamofCarmichael]

Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy (ITEP) -- my gosh, even wiki graffiti doesn't try to spin ITEP -- though they are asking for someone to do it for them, "[better source needed]".

"ITEP has been described as left-leaning in its policy positions and recommendations. [better source needed] Nonetheless, its quantitative analyses are widely regarded as reliable by observers from across the political spectrum, and by analysts within government. ITEP’s sister organization, Citizens for Tax Justice, is often referred to as a progressive group."

Highly regarded? Like how many agree that

The study’s main finding is that nearly every state and local tax system takes a much greater share of income from middle- and low-income families than from the wealthy. That is, when all state and local income, sales, excise and property taxes are added up, most state tax systems are regressive.

From Introduction and Summary of Findings in their Who Pays? A Distributional Analysis of the Tax Systems in All 50 States 3rd Edition Copyright © 2009 by The Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy Washington, D.C.

I agree that taking one document in the ITEP does not reflect all of ITEP.. here is another statement from that report: Virtually every state fails this basic test of tax fairness: as this study documents . . . .

Golly gee, the sales tax I pay adds up pretty quick vs. by income. A guy with $1,000,000,000,000,000,000 that sales tax amount is not even noticed. Duh.

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

The only thing “owed” an illegal immigrant is immediate expulsion. No person has a “right” to enter our country, take jobs, attend our “free schools,” get food, clothing, utilities, medical care, housing all at others expense. It is only the degeneracy of Euro Americans that allow this “rights” nonsense to persist.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

There is a vast difference between legal immigrants and illegal aliens.

There is absolutely no point in arguing with someone so dishonest that they can't even acknowledge that difference.

[Fiji Hill]

Unauthorized immigrant Illegal alien households...

FIFY

[Elsiejay]

Big EFFING deal!! (Borrowing a classic line from our esteemed Vice President).

Is that supposed to make illegal acceptable, to make us like it and want more of it??

[FlingWingFlyer]

All unauthorized immigrants pay sales taxes. They also pay property taxes — even if they rent.”

Okay Skippy. Let's make a deal. I'll pay "sales taxes" and property taxes - even if I rent and YOU AND YOUR ILLEGALS PAY MY FLIPPIN' INCOME TAXES. DEAL?

Paying sales taxes and property taxes - even if they rent is not the same as pay both of those on top of income taxes also. The author is a moron.

[umgud]

Juan & Maria sneak accross the border, they immediately go to the nearest hospital and enjoy a freee $15K birthing experience, which bestows citizenship on little Hector, who is then eligible for all manner of welfare, medical and other assistance.

Over the next several years, Juan & Maria have 3-4 more free birthing experiences which produce little welfare generators. Soon, they have 5 kids each getting free ($8-$10K/yr) educations to go along with all the other free assistance.

Juan & Maria, however, are hard workers and earn $30K/Yr and get over $8K/yr in EITC and other tax credits (credits?)

Don’t worry, all is good..........According to this article, Juan & Maria pay taxes and contribute mightily to our economy.

[SeminoleCounty]

Sounds like another Amnesty Liberal fluff piece

Sure, there are illegal aliens who pay taxes (mainly sales taxes to the states where they are currently in)...but they avoid most income taxes (federal and state) since so many are paid under-the-table....and also avoid paying Social Security/Medicare taxes.

But, most importantly, Illegal Aliens take jobs away from American citizens, and, lower the average pay scale for everyone else in the communities they are in. This puts more unemployed and lower-paid Americans on government assistance. In fact, an employer who hires Illegal Aliens over American citizens are the biggest perpetrators of government expansion in this nation

Even if Illegal Aliens themselves caused no net government revenue loss on their own accord....their impact is greatly felt on the Americans who are the taxpayers...or who were the taxpayers

Illegal Alien Amnesty is Anti-American Bigotry

[Isabel C.]

They also pay property taxes — even if they rent.

Wrong. Only people who own property pay property taxes.

[A CA Guy]

If illegals were up and up they could get a number to pay taxes with that requires no SS.
Problem is when they get that number they often file false tax returns for thousands of dollars on no money earned.
Think of the thousands a child they cost us for education a year.
Being they are poor, think of the cost of us providing health care and other stuff.