Give Pot a Chance

N. Y. Times ^ | 11-22-2012 | TIMOTHY EGAN

[Freestate316]

I don’t know about official studies,but I do know from vast personal experience and the observations I made with the many addicts I knew personally.

[JustSayNoToNannies]

Neither of you has refuted a single point I’ve made.

Actually, your fantasy of how to end illegal dealing lies in smoldering ruins.

Have a nice day.

Flee, coward, flee.

[JustSayNoToNannies]

The gateway claim is nonsense - research shows that the correlation between earlier marijuana use and later use of other drugs can be explained by a "common-factor" model, that is, a third factor that causes both results, such as individuals' opportunities and unique propensities to use drugs, or more broadly a social or psychological predisposition towards anti-social behavior. (http://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB6010/index1.html, http://rds.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs2/hors253.pdf)

Also note that the same sort of correlation between earlier marijuana and later harder drugs also exists between earlier alcohol and tobacco and later illegal drugs - so if marijuana is a "gateway" so are alcohol and tobacco.

I don’t know about official studies,but I do know from vast personal experience and the observations I made with the many addicts I knew personally.

So you know for a fact that they didn't have individual opportunities and unique propensities to use drugs, or social or psychological predispositions towards anti-social behavior?

[JustSayNoToNannies]

I feel the same about alcohol. If your life sucks enough you need a chronic escape then I pity you.

Should that drug be illegal?

Trust me I am more limited government than you have a clue about.

Except when you're not.

[Resolute Conservative]

Sure if a state says yes not the feds.

See second part about apathy the big culture killer. You have to be on one side of fence or another.

[JustSayNoToNannies]

Should that drug [alcohol] be illegal?

Sure if a state says yes not the feds.

Should the states be the only ones who can make other drugs illegal?

See second part about apathy the big culture killer. You have to be on one side of fence or another.

I have no idea how that's relevant to this thread.

[little jeremiah]

Has nothing to do with cowardice, and everything to do with not wanting to waste time by “debating” with people who cannot think rationally, just type out liberaltarian slogans as though such slogans were cogent thoughts and completely ignore any points made in rebuttal to them. That’s why I step around poop on the ground, too. Wastes time scraping it off my shoes.

[JustSayNoToNannies]

type out liberaltarian slogans as though such slogans were cogent thoughts

LOL! Your blather about "eliminating corruption and leftist crap" (as just one example) is more of a slogan than anything I posted.

and completely ignore rebut any points made in rebuttal to them.

There, now that's correct.

[stuartcr]

They’ll have to put a fed agent withe each state/local leo just to enforce this, won’t they? How will they even know someone is in possesion of it?

[JustSayNoToNannies]

Effective enforcement of the War On Users Of Disapproved Substances would definitely require a Big Brother police state. And yet some would have us believe that this War is a "conservative" policy.

[IDFbunny]

I too think the Founders would be appalled at the WoD. For profit prisons, no knock warrants, militarized police, dead grandmothers and dogs, asset forfeiture have perverted our constitution.

Really, what part of the WoD is in any way ‘conserving’ the constitution?