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Posted on 12/09/2012 1:00:31 PM PST by Kartographer

Lists are often helpful in that often times you will find a gem within, something you may not have thought of. Here is a list in no particular order of items worth considering in your overall emergency survival preparedness plans. As with most lists of this type, they are seldom all inclusive. So long as the list provokes thought, then it’s a good thing.

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1 posted on 12/09/2012 1:00:35 PM PST by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 12/09/2012 1:02:04 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Wow, except for the rabbits, chickens, and goats, Mr. Mercat keeps this stuff around all the time and always had. Weird. And we do have chickens and goats to rescue/buy within two miles of our farm. Lots. Rabbits are very annoying animals. I don’t think I want rabbits.


4 posted on 12/09/2012 1:12:51 PM PST by Mercat (Adventures make you late for dinner. Bilbo Baggins)
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To: Kartographer

You’d need a rather large vehicle to carry all that equipment.
I assume a cache system for much of the equipment is to be used.


5 posted on 12/09/2012 1:13:50 PM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: Mercat

rabbits are good for food and clothing. They do have their uses, even if they are pain in the butt.


6 posted on 12/09/2012 1:15:06 PM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: txnativegop

Either you have it before SHTF or you will do without or pay dear for it after.


7 posted on 12/09/2012 1:17:09 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Yes I know. I have been properly chastized.

I have most of that list, no farm animals though, I’ve got nowhere to keep them.


8 posted on 12/09/2012 1:21:24 PM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: Kartographer

I’d add propane to that list. Camping cylinders, standard grill sized tanks, a big tank if you have space on your property and vendors to fill.


9 posted on 12/09/2012 1:25:22 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Kartographer
I'm getting a PA system for the property. More for an authoritative "Get off my lawn!" than for disaster prep, but it might come in handy for disaster prep.

/johnny

10 posted on 12/09/2012 1:25:22 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I’ve got a PA system. I went with the one manufactured by Mossberg. The Model 500 has sufficient volume to get the message across.


11 posted on 12/09/2012 1:28:26 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

Thats good..


12 posted on 12/09/2012 1:32:52 PM PST by samadams2000
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To: Lurker
LOL! I've got a Mossberg Model 88 for that particular function.

/johnny

13 posted on 12/09/2012 1:37:23 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I have a lot of the same Certifications and education as this woman. Even got myself a fancy Degree (associates in Applied Science, Emergency Management) and one thing I learned from those courses is that this type of person is the one who will need to be dealt with first if/when the SHTF.

She will quite happily order confiscation of your resources under her Emergency Powers or some other clap trap. And he or she will do it because your “selfish” and “unfair”. So let them play their little games right up until the wheels come off. Then do what needs to be done quickly, quietly, and without mercy or remorse.


14 posted on 12/09/2012 2:00:53 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Sorry. That reply was for another thread.


15 posted on 12/09/2012 2:05:36 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker
No problem. I figured that was the case, or that you had been into the cooking sherry. ;)

/johnny

16 posted on 12/09/2012 2:09:01 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: FreedomPoster
I'd add large sheets of cardboard to the list. It makes for good insulation, a temporary cover for holes, use for making candle/cookers, make a solar oven, temporary shelter, or use as a blanket.

In the comments, someone said they were stocking Dr. Pepper. Remember, there is an expiration date. The carbonation will go flat and after a while it tastes like can.

It looks like I may be putting up a few jars of salsa. The freeze is going to hit tomorrow night and there are lots of green tomatoes in the garden. Will also have to pick the mustard, spinach and lettuce for the freezer. Old Man Frost can have the RIDICULOUSLY HOT jalapenos.

17 posted on 12/09/2012 2:26:07 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: Mercat

“Rabbits are very annoying animals. I don’t think I want rabbits.”

Me Neither I like Chickens. I had rabbits once they are a pain.


18 posted on 12/09/2012 2:27:55 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Kartographer

I’m researching propane generators. I’d appreciate any comments from people who know about them or have experience with them. I’m leaning toward kohler 14kw.


19 posted on 12/09/2012 2:32:11 PM PST by snippy_about_it
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To: JRandomFreeper

i’ve got a remington 870 that has a loud bark


20 posted on 12/09/2012 3:14:45 PM PST by 1st Division guy
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To: Mercat

Rabbits are very tasty. When I was just a kid, once a year we celebrated Mom’s birthday at one of the fancier restaurants in town.

They didn’t have what I called normal food back then. Fancy stuff, lobster, shrimp, froglegs, rabbits, and noooo chicken which was my favorite.

Mom suggested I try the rabbit as a chicken substitue. It was pretty tasty. Also, the rabbit manure is very good for your garden. Course Dad sometime brought home rabbits and squirrels, along with deer meat. It was all pretty tasty. Never could go for the frog legs though, but I could eat the other stuff, if someone else would kill it and dress it, I could cook it and eat it again when SHTF.

Now if you keep your chicken pen so that the chickens can dig and scratch around, they will help keep the area under the rabbit cages spruced up too.

Some people will even pay you for that Rabbit poop for their organic gardens. Make a few extra bucks, sell chicken manure and rabbit poop. LOL.


21 posted on 12/09/2012 3:15:54 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Kartographer

Mmm. Amazing that we have most of this stuff and got almost all of it before we started “prepping”.

A couple of questions. First with bleach, I have never found any bleach for sale around here with an expiration date of more than 10 months.

Since we are wanting to collect 1-2 years or more of the most frequently used items as well as the most needed items, what is the best way to plan for long term storage of bleach particularly for cleaning, disinfectant and water purification? I have read conflicting things on this.

Second question: Club Soda. I grow my own strawberries,blackberries and some other fruits. I make a certain amount of syrup for snow cones, and combined with club soda to make a healthier pesticide free treat for the kids.

If we should find our water supply insuffiecient at some point, could we use plain club soda instead of water as a last resort?


22 posted on 12/09/2012 3:47:03 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Kartographer
So one of the things I have on my wish list is a solar power source. Maybe even something that can be plugged in to electricity, maybe hand cranked, as well as portable and solar to recharge the gizmo.

I am not sure what is required for the various possible things that I might use it for.

Tops on the list I'd like to know:

Recharge batteries. A,AA,AAA,D,C
Recharge communication devices
Ability to run well pump
Ability to run fans
Ability to use a 1 burner hot plate
Ability to run a small micro wave
Ability to run a dehumidifier
Ability to run a small 1 room air conditioner

Now, I am in the process of researching all these, and not always understanding some of the technical stuff I am looking at. So if you know, any of this stuff, could you please keep it simple for me - you know kinda like solar power for dummies?

23 posted on 12/09/2012 4:00:16 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Buy some pool or hot tub powdered bleach in a good sealed container. Now that’s bleach power!


24 posted on 12/09/2012 4:16:53 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: greeneyes

I make a killer paella but with seafood. The original traditional version calls for rabbit. I’ll get there eventually.


25 posted on 12/09/2012 4:25:02 PM PST by Mercat (Adventures make you late for dinner. Bilbo Baggins)
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To: greeneyes

I’ve used iodine for water purification on backpacking trips in the past but I think I’ve read that it is now hard to get for some reason related to Homeland Security. It might be worth looking into, though. Also, don’t forget filtration systems.


26 posted on 12/09/2012 4:28:29 PM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Kartographer

More and more, as I read these lists, I think massive amounts of toilet paper, Depends and laundry detergent are all that most people will need, so they can die and be buried with some semblance of dignity after they sh*t in their pants when it all comes down.

A good place to start is to google “YouTube: Preppers Will Die in WROL.”

And speaking of “sh*tting in their pants” - anybody even have a clue about preventing and handling the number one killer, diarrhea, after SHTF?


27 posted on 12/09/2012 4:30:34 PM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Kartographer

Here at DHS ve are vatching you und reading zis thread und making notes. Ve vill know vere to come to get zee stuff you haf stolen from your comrades.


28 posted on 12/09/2012 4:45:52 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: greeneyes

Research using pool shock to make bleach. It is a dry chemical that stores well and can be mixed with water to make bleach as needed. Storing liquid bleach for long periods is a loser, as you’ve already figured out.


29 posted on 12/09/2012 4:49:39 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Kartographer

I hate these lists because it reminds me of items I don’t have yet or I don’t have enough.


30 posted on 12/09/2012 4:56:12 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Galt is freedom.)
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To: greeneyes

I don’t know where I got this so I cannot credit the true source.

Homemade Bleach

The major benefit of using Calcium Hypochlorite over Sodium Hypochlorite is shelf life. Calcium Hypochlorite (pool shock) is sold in a solid granular form and has a 10 year shelf life when stored in a cool, dark place. This will easily meet your long-term storage needs.

The other benefit is the amount of available chlorine. The concentration of chlorine is much higher with Calcium Hypochlorite. For example, a small 1-pound bag of calcium hypochlorite can disinfect up to 10,000 gallons of drinking water. That’s around 5 gallons/day for one person for 5 1/2 years! Not bad for only 1 lb of granules.

Making Chlorine Bleach

To make a chlorine bleach solution using calcium hypochlorite, here are some formulas I got from the Army Technical Bulletin entitled, “SANITARY CONTROL AND SURVEILLANCE OF FIELD WATER SUPPLIES” (TB MED 577).

From the Army manual, to make a concentrated chlorine solution that you can use for disinfecting water (or to be used in maintaining a clean and sanitary living environment), you’ll want to use calcium hypochlorite that has around 70% available chlorine.

If you’re buying pool shock, on the back of the bag it will tell you what percentage of chlorine is available. The one I use is called “Zappit 73 Pool Shock, it is pure calcium hyphochlorite that contains up to 73% available chlorine and sells for around $ 5 for a 1lb bag.

To make the homemade chlorine bleach solution, you’ll need to do the following:

Mix 2 level Tablespoons of Calcium Hypochlorite to 3 cups of water.
After you’ve made your stock of chlorine solution, you’ll want to follow the formula from the Army Technical Bulletin in determining how much of the above stock chlorine solution you’ll need for your desired number of gallons of water to be disinfected. *Note: I’ve updated the formula to calculate the same concentration that household bleach has. If you have questions, fire me an email and I’ll be more than happy to explain the math.

mL of stock chlorine required = (desired concentration (mg/L)*number of gallons to be treated)/18.12

The desired concentration refers to how much chlorine in mg/L you want the disinfected water to have. A recommended amount is 7 mg/L of concentration. This equates to adding 8 drops of household liquid bleach to 1 gallon of water (the recommended amount when disinfecting water with household bleach).

Given these amounts, if you wanted to disinfect 1 gallon of water with the homemade chlorine solution, the formula would be as follows:

(7*1)/18.12

This equates to .38mL or 8 drops of the concentrated solution per gallon of water. Just like normal household bleach!

So the 3 step process is as follows:

Place 8 drops of homemade chlorine bleach in 1 gallon of water
Let stand for 30 min
If water is still cloudy, repeat steps until clear; otherwise it is ready to drink
Keep in mind, that once the homemade chlorine bleach is made it will follow the same shelf-life limitations as standard household liquid bleach. So be sure to only make amounts you will be using within that time frame.


31 posted on 12/09/2012 5:08:44 PM PST by american_ranger
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To: dagogo redux
Plant a bilberry shrub now. Harvest and preserve the fruit.
Bilberry fruit tea is approved by Commission E to treat non-specific acute diarrhea among it's many uses.

It has been used in traditional European medicine for over a thousand years. Has no known contraindications, no known side effects, no restrictions known during pregnancy, and no known interaction with other drugs.

disclaimer: I am not a doctor or herbalist, and I did not stay in a Holiday Inn last night. Any one following these instructions assumes all liability. My source for this information is a Herbal Medicine Book which contains the Commission E Monographs. You assume all risk if you take this advice.LOL.

32 posted on 12/09/2012 5:15:21 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: american_ranger

Thank you so much. That is just what I am looking for. I wasn’t sure of the pros and cons of these 2 choices. I really appreciate the effort you made to give me some really detailed advice. Thanks again.


33 posted on 12/09/2012 5:21:18 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Kartographer; MestaMachine; Rushmore Rocks; Oorang; KC_Lion; Godzilla; Domestic Church; ...

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The Amazing Light... Glows All Night and Lasts Forever! - “Glow in the Dark” Lights, and Glow Sticks

http://www.uvpaqlite.com/index.html

I ordered four large Glow Sticks, and placed them in a glass vase on top of the refrigerator for use as a night light.

.


34 posted on 12/09/2012 5:50:14 PM PST by LucyT
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To: LucyT

we use them all the time down here while fishing.
We used to put them on swordfish lines at night as well.


35 posted on 12/09/2012 6:03:33 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: LucyT

Wow. Very cool.


36 posted on 12/09/2012 6:11:34 PM PST by Nachum (The List is off the Google blacklist- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: LucyT

Thanks for the ping.


37 posted on 12/09/2012 6:19:51 PM PST by thecodont
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To: thecodont; rodguy911; Nachum

You’re welcome, thecodont.

They’re fun for children, too, and they never need batteries.


38 posted on 12/09/2012 6:23:25 PM PST by LucyT
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To: greeneyes

I Don’t see why you could use the club soda.

As far as bleach:

Better than Bleach: Use Calcium Hypochlorite to Disinfect Water

http://readynutrition.com/resources/better-than-bleach-use-calcium-hypochlorite-to-disinfect-water_19062010/


39 posted on 12/09/2012 6:26:29 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: greeneyes

Research making bleach with pool shock. It is a dry chemical that can be stored for long periods, then mixed with water to make bleach as needed.


40 posted on 12/09/2012 7:00:39 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: T-Bird45
I found some on the web, along with some chlorine type tablets for water purification, but I wanted something that would also allow me to make bleach for all the normal every day things I do with bleach.

The issue with Iodine/Homeland Security could be related to a Nuclear threat or reactor failure/nuclear event. However FEMA doesn't appear to think that nuclear incident prep ia a big issue for the public at large-but we know the government is already taken care of.

If FEMA is not concerned, that just means one thing to me - better check out your location and see if you need to be concerned. Kansas City for example has a huge amount of hardened sites. Depending where you are, you might want to add a Geiger Counter to your list.

Potassium iodine tablets are an immediate necessity to protect the thyroid. The thyroid will absorb the iodine from the tabs instead of iodine found in nature that might have been contaminated depending on the circumstances.

I bought a pack to add to my daughter’s auto kit, since she does travel to St. Louis and back daily. St. Louis has 1 site that is a likely spot for a nuclear event. She should be far enough away from that site to turn, duck, and cover with a good chance of survival by taking the tabs.

Anyone 25 miles out from the center of the event will likely survive if they just take cover, take the tabs, and stay under cover for 2 weeks. After the first week, you can come out to throw the poop bags in the garbage container next to your shelter, but just those few minutes is all.

Got to wait for 2 weeks before you stay out longer than that. They used to teach this stuff in schools, but the Government hasn’t updated the nuclear civil defense stuff since the 1980’s. It would be more useful than some of the things they waste time on these days.

41 posted on 12/09/2012 7:00:39 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Kartographer

Thanks for the links.


42 posted on 12/09/2012 7:02:46 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
Having used iodine for purifying water....one tablet for one canteen... I'll just take the swamp water and process it myself. I am the sergeant, this time around.

At least with quinine water, you can add gin and a sweetner and it tastes not quite like the south end of a northbound mule.

/johnny

43 posted on 12/09/2012 7:33:50 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: LucyT

Thanks


44 posted on 12/09/2012 7:44:38 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I'll take your word for it. Bleach has always been our go to, but fortunately we haven't needed it often.

Have you seen anything from any of the FEMA or Government websites about NBC preparedness?

I was hoping to find a link to something useful from their site. All I've found so far is various survival sites that talk about old civil defense books from the 60s.

My daughter had asked me sometime ago if I would write a dairy of what life was like back then. I was hoping to refresh my memory on the things they taught us then, which would serve the dual purpose of useful info and maybe even find some updated info.

From looking at FEMA you would think that tornadoes, hurricanes, and floods are the only kind of disasters that could ever possibly in your wildest dreams happen.LOL.

I also found a link that claimed without proof that China and Russia were busily building underground shelters for their citizens. I guess it could be true.

If anything, I would think that the big wigs just fell behind building stuff for their own use, and now that Iran, N. Korea and the M. East are all going nuclear so to speak, they are feeling the need to make haste.LOL.

45 posted on 12/09/2012 8:00:01 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
Many of those original government publications are available from GoogleBooks for free.

Including the cold war wood gasifier booklet.

/johnny

46 posted on 12/09/2012 8:06:05 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Thanks, I hate to admit I am not familiar with Google Books. I’ll check it out.


47 posted on 12/09/2012 8:07:33 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Mercat; txnativegop; Georgia Girl 2

OK, I glommed onto your posts about rabbits because I’d been considering rabbits as preferable to chickens to raise. That is, easier & a better investment of my efforts as I can just take or leave eggs.

Your thoughts as to why I might wish to change my mind, if you have the time? The benefit of others’ experience is a blessing.


48 posted on 12/09/2012 10:12:37 PM PST by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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To: Titan Magroyne

I have been doing some reading on this. It kinda depends on your zoning laws, food preferences, and lots of other stuff.

One thing though, I have eaten both chicken and rabbits. I prefer the taste of chicken. While it is good to have chickens for eggs, I was recently reading a book about backyard poultry raising.

By purchasing a few chicks in March or April, you can have chickens for slaughter in September. You don’t have to skin them, and they have gizmos to make plucking the feathers pretty easy. I would be more able to handle this than skinning the rabbit I think.

If you are also gardening, the chickens will clean up your garden for you and help control insects. Plus, you can make some decent money selling them locally for just a small investment of time during the 8 months, if you raise a few extra to sell. We have a big market for that here - not so much for rabbits.

Both rabbits and chickens provide good manure for the garden which can also be sold for a profit, if you have no use for it.

I like the idea of being able to process all the chickens and freeze them or can them, and be done with it during the cold winter months. With Rabbits people usually tend them year round, and they reproduce continually.

A book I am reading is Pastured Poultry Profits by Joel Salatin.


49 posted on 12/09/2012 10:58:04 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
"you know kinda like solar power for dummies?"

http://www.bing.com/shopping/search?q=solar+power+for+dummies&qpvt=solar+power+for+dummies&FORM=HURE
50 posted on 12/10/2012 2:16:18 AM PST by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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