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Are US SCHOOLS more like PRISON? JUVENILE HALLS or Educational Institution?
Russia Today Youtube ^ | Published on July 14, 2012

Posted on 12/24/2012 3:33:01 PM PST by wintertime

"Are US SCHOOLS more like PRISON? JUVENILE HALLS or Educational Institution?"

Here's the link to the video:

Are US Schools more like Prison?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5RaDNHwc_M

Several thoughts come to mind in the light of the recent school shooting:

1) Government schools will resemble prison even more so than they do now.

2) With more police presence in the schools, minor school infractions will more often be treated like crimes.

3) The children who attend these schools risk learning to be comfortable with a prison-state government control of their lives, government compulsion, and the government trashing every First Amendment Right ( speech, press, assembly, expression of religious belief, and all the children are subjected to non-stop government established proselytizing in the religious faith of atheistic humanism.)

Yes, schools will be safer with armed police presence, but...seriously...do you want your children to be in that type of environment, that needs that type of protection, for 13 years of their lives? Really? How could that possibly be good for them?

These prison-like government schools can NOT NOT NOT be good for our nation and our continuing freedom.

Wintertime

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1 posted on 12/24/2012 3:33:08 PM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime

Inner-city government schools are nothing more than prison preparatory institutions.


2 posted on 12/24/2012 3:34:23 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism." --Vladimir Lenin)
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To: metmom

Absolutely another reason to homeschool.


3 posted on 12/24/2012 3:34:49 PM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime

Institutions and professions can fall and become poisonous and corrupt. That is what we see in public schools, Universities and education schools.


4 posted on 12/24/2012 3:37:20 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: wintertime

It might be more correct to call these government youth indoctrination centers. You can see little evidence of any kind of education that would prepare the student for a productive life coming out of these institutions.


5 posted on 12/24/2012 3:40:59 PM PST by Taxbilly
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To: wintertime

Institutions and professions can fall and become poisonous and corrupt. That is what we see in public schools, Universities and education schools.

We need to creatively replace them with a different philosphy and technique. Public schools are not reformable. Lord knows, we have tried and they only get worse. If money could buy competence, intellegence, dignity and love we would not be in the mess we are in as a society. They were designed in a history for people and conditions totally different than today.


6 posted on 12/24/2012 3:51:53 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson
1) Large, powerful, and intractable institutions can lose their legitimacy seemingly overnight. Government school is one this instiututions.

2) Government schooling was built upon a corrupt foundation from its inception in the mid-1800s. It has always been a socialist-funded, compulsory, and single payer entitlement. At best it offer the students a lukewarm and generic Protestantism. Today government schools are non-stop proselytizing in the government established religion of atheistic humanism.

Nothing good can come from an institution built upon such a corrupt foundation.

7 posted on 12/24/2012 3:56:46 PM PST by wintertime
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To: SaraJohnson

That should be: “these institutions”


8 posted on 12/24/2012 3:57:50 PM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime
3) The children who attend these schools risk learning to be comfortable with a prison-state government control of their lives, government compulsion, and the government trashing every First Amendment Right ( speech, press, assembly, expression of religious belief, and all the children are subjected to non-stop government established proselytizing in the religious faith of atheistic humanism.)

If TSA didn't do it nothing will.

9 posted on 12/24/2012 4:14:21 PM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: itsahoot
Well.....It only took one to three generations of socialist-funded, compulsory, and single-payer government L-12 schooling to give us Franklin D. Roosevelt. And....This was at time when kids were only compelled to go to the 8th grade!

If it weren't for the Second Amendment we would have been a communist slave state by the 1930s.

Thanks to the Second Amendment politicians still fear traveling too far into the Land of Tyranny. . Thanks to the Second Amendment we still have plenty of “stretch room” in which to legally and peacefully turn this nation around.

If conservatives expect to have any hope of avoiding complete meltdown of this nation, abolishing government schooling must be a top priority. We must find alternatives to college and university attendance and totally reforming what little would remain of higher education.

10 posted on 12/24/2012 4:23:46 PM PST by wintertime
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To: Mears

bfl


11 posted on 12/24/2012 4:27:35 PM PST by Mears
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To: wintertime

That little farce cost the Head Warder his job, and the city of Goose Creek, the Goose Creek Police Department, and the Berkeley County School District $1.6 million dollars.

12 posted on 12/24/2012 5:01:21 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - Rene "Popeye" Descartes)
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To: humblegunner

Wintertime is ranting over here as well.


13 posted on 12/24/2012 5:34:17 PM PST by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: GaltTrader

Ping


14 posted on 12/25/2012 4:53:21 PM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime
We must find alternatives to college and university attendance and totally reforming what little would remain of higher education.

Hard to compete with free, only pain will deter people from accepting free stuff.

When I started school in 44 we still had teachers that were only educated thru 8th grade, I think that was the last year they were allowed, but boy were they ever educated, compared to today.

15 posted on 12/26/2012 10:02:59 PM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: itsahoot
Hard to compete with free, only pain will deter people from accepting free stuff.

I fear that you are right. I hope that the "pain" doesn't come in the form of complete economic collapse or tyranny.

When I started school in 44 we still had teachers that were only educated thru 8th grade, I think that was the last year they were allowed, but boy were they ever educated, compared to today.

I am now at the point where I refuse to consider whether police enforced government schooling is better in some districts, or was better in some distant past, or would be better if more localized, or went through any specific reform. I see this as being irrelevant to the fundamental oppression of police enforced government schooling. Why?

The reason is that government schooling is a First Amendment and freedom of conscience abomination. It is an offense against the human spirit of the child and parent, who are forced to endure it, and the taxpayer who is forced to pay for it. The force is through police and court threat.

It is impossible for any school to be religiously, politically, or culturally neutral ....so...when government schools force children into their indoctrination centers, the NON-neutral worldview will be that of the most politically powerful. This is an abomination.

Also...Since all schools must greatly control speech, press, assembly, exercise of religion and none are religiously neutral. When government runs compulsory schools, the First Amendment Rights of the child, parent, and taxpayer are abused. The risk is that the child may learn to be comfortable with the government suppressing his human rights.

The state suppresses the First Amendment Rights of state prisoners, in many of the same way it clamps down on the rights of students. The children risk learning to be comfortable prisoners of the state.

The above is evil for the government to do to a child, to the parent, and to the taxpayer forced to support it. The threat to our nation's continuing freedom is very great. Even if the children are worse off if the government schools are closed, we must do it. The human spirit demands it.

Two extreme examples to make my point: In slavery many slaves were materially worse off after emancipation. Many citizens of the Soviet Block nations were materially worse off after the Berlin Wall fell....but...no matter how good, bad, ugly or indifferent were the results the human spirit demanded abolition of evil.

16 posted on 12/27/2012 1:49:04 PM PST by wintertime
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