Skip to comments.Is Fukushima radiation killing Americans?
Posted on 12/27/2012 8:01:20 AM PST by darth
I'll bet no one else around here owns a calibrated radiation survey meter!
I have posted this before, but it's worth repeating. A few months after the Fukushima meltdown, I took my survey meter to the grocery store. California veggies...fine. Fish display...fine. Canned tuna shelves....UH OH. I measured .05 rad/hour. That's over one rad/day.
Since the tuna was in cans, the alpha and beta particles would not be detected, IIRC. If I remember my particle physics, my meter must have been detecting gammas or neutrons.
If someone ingests the radioactive particles in the tuna, they will be irradiated from the inside by alphas, betas, etc.
From that moment on, I resolved that I will not eat seafood unless I KNOW that it came from the Gulf of Mexico. Preferably, I will only eat what I catch or see come off the boat.
Given the influence of extreme environazis in government and media who want to reduce human population, I would not be surprised if this danger is purposely being covered up.
Forgot the link:
Who knew my profound distaste for tuna might one day save my life.
Ludlum Model 3 with a # 44 detector paddle.
While the glowing Tuna is not good, I worry a lot more about the bread that can sit in a drawer or on a counter for over a month and still make an almost tasty sammich.
Seriously. Try it. While not ‘fresh’ by any means, it’s still completely edible.
And just what are preservatives that can do that doing to your guts?
So how much were we getting back when I was a kid and the US, Russia, and China were setting off atmospheric nuke blasts?
The radioactive material could also be in the steel of the can.
You can't ask that question here. That makes you anti-business; believe me, I've been there.
Oh wow, almost as much radiation as eating 36 bananas in one day. We are dooooooooomed!
Where did you get your meter and how much did it cost? What brand is it?I have wanted to monitor radiation for decades. Thanks for the info.
I remember a time in the 1970’s when my mother refused to serve us fresh milk (just the horrible Carnation instant stuff) because the ChiComs had set off an atmospheric test which was producing radioactive isotopes in milk.
Fine by me. In the last 6 months that’s about the only thing one Freeper (in name only) or another HASEN’T called me.
So I may as well complete the whole set ;)
Nancy Pelosi’s connection to that industry was my first thought.
You, sir, are anti-business.
...or does the whole set have to be from him?
In the taste-tasting of some lemon juice products, "the all natural/no preservatives" brand fared the worst, which led to the comment that perhaps there is a reason why preservatives are used by all the other brands.
Well, of course it is. We’re a nation of victims.
No, as long as someone says it, I’’m good.
Though I fail to see how pointing out a fact makes one anti anything. But FR isn’t the same site it used to be and facts don’t seem to matter anymore to a lot of posters here.
As long as you’re not anticlimactic, I suppose you’re okay.
And just what are preservatives that can do that doing to your guts?
You can’t ask that question here. That makes you anti-business; believe me, I’ve been there.
Let's send all 535 members of congress to Fukishima to investigate.
And of course, to quote Grace Slick, those “Preservatives might just be preserving you!”
That’s a good point. Considering my health, it’s that or divine intervention ;)
Sure, but about a simple label on a food item that says "This product uses GMO" or some such? Very anti-business around here. I can empathize with people who don't understand or care about such an issue as I was one of them for a long time, but it would be rather helpful if we could sidestep this crap if we wanted to, and God knows businesses like Monsanto aren't going to do it voluntarily.
I dislike gov't regulations as much as the next guy, but I don't believe they're all evil and useless, either.
Want bread without preservatives?
I got mine new for $50... bread costs half what the store charges... in less than a year it paid for itself, and I know exactly what goes in each loaf...
>> Let’s send all 535 members of congress to Fukishima to investigate.
I agree, but we’re too broke for that kind of travel expense.
So take ‘em halfway by boat and make ‘em swim the rest.
Go to www.ki4u.com
They sell and calibrate rad meters.
I got mine at a garage sale for $5.
For another $500 I got those guys to repair and calibrate it.
They have instructions on how to make your own meter for a few dollars. I have done that before.
I am not an expert, but I know how to read the meter.
Eight crew members of the U.S.S. Ronald Reagan, whose home port is San Diego, sued the Tokyo Electric Power Co. in Federal Court.
They claim the utility company, "a wholly owned public benefit subsidiary of the government of Japan," misrepresented radiation levels to lull the U.S. Navy "into a false sense of security."
Sounds kinda familiar to me.
monsanto is the devil.
Sure, but about a simple label on a food item that says
I dislike gov’t regulations as much as the next guy
I swear there is very little difference between liberals and conservatives now days! THE SOLUTION TO EVERY PROBLEM IS GOVT.
God knows businesses like Monsanto aren’t going to do it voluntarily.
The only business that can deal with your simple little label is BIG BUSINESS. BIG BUSINESS and BIG GOVT go hand in hand.
I love this argument that a simple label will bankrupt companies. Please enlighten me.
We are being eaten alive with regulations, and you don’t see it? That is the whole problem. You don’t understand that the only ones who can do your “simple idea” is big business?
I REPEAT, THERE IS VERY LITTLE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LIBERALS AND CONSERVATIVES.
Right, so you can’t detail to me how slapping .005 cents worth of ink on a package is going to bankrupt numerous businesses. Don’t worry, neither could the people on that CA Prop thread.
We were told over and over by all the experts (I was AMAZED at how many experts there are here on FR that specialized in nuclear radiation) that all it would be would amount to a chest x-ray (or two) or maybe a cross-continental flight.
I got my detector in August and background counts were consistently in the 20-40 CPM (counts per minute) range.
Since then, it has elevated - but only slightly, perhaps to 30-70 CPM.
This is still less than one would expect in eastern Washington, where they get the effects from the Hanford reservation.
Get off your fat ass, go down to the food coop and buy your non gmo food from someone you can trust. Don't expect another law to solve YOUR perceived problem,
Ok, now go get your thinking cap. Who is going to enforce this law, what bureaucrat is going to interpret the law? YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND BURAUCRACIES.
Now, even if we do this, it doesn't get you what you want. It is very difficult and expensive to prove something is non gmo. The path of least resistance is now to label EVERYTHING GMO because there is less liability doing that.
So now we have all food labeled GMO because . Your local food producer can't prove it is Non GMO, He cant take the risk either. SO YOU HAVE ACTUALLY ELIMINATED WHAT YOU THOUGHT YOU WANTED.
I can tell you don't own or run a business! Conservatives on this site are just like the liberals, they don't want freedom and responsibility, they want the govt to take care of them.
There is a happy medium, whether you want to admit it or not, and I don't think it's too much to ask to make it a little bit easier to know what I'm putting in my body.
This isn't some dietary thing to gain mass or look good for the beach season; people could literally be poisoning themselves on this crap.
Get off your fat ass, go down to the food coop and buy what you want!
As I explained,your law won’t do anything to solve YOUR problem. IT will create more problems than it will solve.
My fat ass?
I did. You did not acknowledge or counter my points.
Your fat ass is right. Get off it and go buy what you want because you have freedom now to do so but you do not want to be responsible for yourself. Some people need offending and you are one, because you can't think your way out of a paper bag.
So, to ensure I understand, a label is an unbearable burden, ALL regulations are bad, all businesses (and, therefore, the people who run them) are good, and unless a person has ever owned or run a business, they can’t possibly have a good reason for wanting a change—however slight—to be made. Do I have that right?
I now understand that your generation has grown up with the govt solving every problem for you and your expecting that through out your life.
That you have the non gmo readily available to you NOW but think govt should solve your problem.
That is is all about you and you have NO understanding of others.
That you so eagerly quote the general welfare clause.
That a discussion of reducing govt brings up the word anarchy.
That you have no concept of freedom, choices and responsibility. Why are you here on a conservative site. What does conservatism mean to you? I TRUELY FEAR FOR OUR FUTURE Thank you for revealting this to me.
I’m surprised the New York Times isn’t all over this story. The MSM has a natural hatred of all things nuclear after all... Maybe dems haven’t had time to feed them the story - or it’s in conflict with a liberal’s idea of ‘healthy eating’...
People have been eating 'Wonder Bread' since the 1950's. It's perfectly safe - unlike Brown Rice that's filled with arsenic... (See Consumer Reports - November 2012 for a full listing of arsenic laden rice products - Carolina Whole Grain Brown Rice comes in at 6.4 to 8.7 micrograms of arsenic per serving.)
Run from the Carolina and Delta brown rice, Barbara's brown rice crisps, and Lundberg Sweet Dreams Eco-farmed Brown rice syrup... waaaay to much arsenic. And skip the grilled tuna. Enjoy spun white bread - it's good for you.
Actually I wasn’t talking about wonder. ANY bread, white or wheat will last indefinitely now with only a slight change in flavor and consistency.
I eat it. But I can’t see how it can be ‘good’ for me. EVERYTHING we have access to is a chem factory today. There is no way around it. Even seeds are GM so we can’t even grow our own unmolested food.
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