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Is Fukushima radiation killing Americans?
Washington's Blog ^ | 5/29/2012 | Washington's Blog

Posted on 12/27/2012 8:01:20 AM PST by darth

I'll bet no one else around here owns a calibrated radiation survey meter!

I have posted this before, but it's worth repeating. A few months after the Fukushima meltdown, I took my survey meter to the grocery store. California veggies...fine. Fish display...fine. Canned tuna shelves....UH OH. I measured .05 rad/hour. That's over one rad/day.

Since the tuna was in cans, the alpha and beta particles would not be detected, IIRC. If I remember my particle physics, my meter must have been detecting gammas or neutrons.

If someone ingests the radioactive particles in the tuna, they will be irradiated from the inside by alphas, betas, etc.

From that moment on, I resolved that I will not eat seafood unless I KNOW that it came from the Gulf of Mexico. Preferably, I will only eat what I catch or see come off the boat.

Given the influence of extreme environazis in government and media who want to reduce human population, I would not be surprised if this danger is purposely being covered up.


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1 posted on 12/27/2012 8:01:24 AM PST by darth
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To: darth

Forgot the link:

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/05/absolutely-every-one-of-the-15-bluefin-tuna-tested-in-california-waters-contaminated-with-fukushima-radiation.html


2 posted on 12/27/2012 8:03:07 AM PST by darth
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To: darth

Who knew my profound distaste for tuna might one day save my life.


3 posted on 12/27/2012 8:04:10 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: darth
I'll bet no one else around here owns a calibrated radiation survey meter!

Ludlum Model 3 with a # 44 detector paddle.

4 posted on 12/27/2012 8:05:30 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: darth

While the glowing Tuna is not good, I worry a lot more about the bread that can sit in a drawer or on a counter for over a month and still make an almost tasty sammich.

Seriously. Try it. While not ‘fresh’ by any means, it’s still completely edible.

And just what are preservatives that can do that doing to your guts?


5 posted on 12/27/2012 8:07:44 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: darth

So how much were we getting back when I was a kid and the US, Russia, and China were setting off atmospheric nuke blasts?


6 posted on 12/27/2012 8:08:42 AM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: darth

Sorry, Charlie
7 posted on 12/27/2012 8:09:00 AM PST by NonValueAdded (If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, you've likely misread the situation.)
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To: darth

The radioactive material could also be in the steel of the can.


8 posted on 12/27/2012 8:09:47 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
And just what are preservatives that can do that doing to your guts?

You can't ask that question here. That makes you anti-business; believe me, I've been there.

9 posted on 12/27/2012 8:10:50 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: darth

Oh wow, almost as much radiation as eating 36 bananas in one day. We are dooooooooomed!


10 posted on 12/27/2012 8:10:50 AM PST by mnehring
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To: darth

Where did you get your meter and how much did it cost? What brand is it?I have wanted to monitor radiation for decades. Thanks for the info.


11 posted on 12/27/2012 8:13:01 AM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: nascarnation

I remember a time in the 1970’s when my mother refused to serve us fresh milk (just the horrible Carnation instant stuff) because the ChiComs had set off an atmospheric test which was producing radioactive isotopes in milk.


12 posted on 12/27/2012 8:14:14 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Future Snake Eater

Fine by me. In the last 6 months that’s about the only thing one Freeper (in name only) or another HASEN’T called me.

So I may as well complete the whole set ;)


13 posted on 12/27/2012 8:15:34 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: reg45
The radioactive material could also be in the steel of the can.

Very true. About 20 yrs. ago a bunch of steel café tables had to be recalled because they were emitting high doses. Turns out they were Made in Mexico from scrap that included a source isotope from a medical x-ray machine. A delivery of these to the cafeteria actually triggered the alarms at Los Alamos.


14 posted on 12/27/2012 8:16:54 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: NonValueAdded; darth

Nancy Pelosi’s connection to that industry was my first thought.


15 posted on 12/27/2012 8:39:12 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Norm Lenhart

You, sir, are anti-business.

Set complete.


16 posted on 12/27/2012 8:43:29 AM PST by null and void (Going Galt: The won't of the people)
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To: Norm Lenhart

...or does the whole set have to be from him?


17 posted on 12/27/2012 8:45:00 AM PST by null and void (Going Galt: The won't of the people)
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To: darth

yes


18 posted on 12/27/2012 8:46:58 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Future Snake Eater; Norm Lenhart
I was watching some cooking show last Summer, "America's Test Kitchen" perhaps.

In the taste-tasting of some lemon juice products, "the all natural/no preservatives" brand fared the worst, which led to the comment that perhaps there is a reason why preservatives are used by all the other brands.

19 posted on 12/27/2012 8:51:48 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: darth

Well, of course it is. We’re a nation of victims.


20 posted on 12/27/2012 8:58:18 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: null and void

No, as long as someone says it, I’’m good.

Though I fail to see how pointing out a fact makes one anti anything. But FR isn’t the same site it used to be and facts don’t seem to matter anymore to a lot of posters here.


21 posted on 12/27/2012 8:58:38 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

As long as you’re not anticlimactic, I suppose you’re okay.


22 posted on 12/27/2012 9:01:15 AM PST by null and void (Going Galt: The won't of the people)
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To: Future Snake Eater

And just what are preservatives that can do that doing to your guts?
You can’t ask that question here. That makes you anti-business; believe me, I’ve been there.


You are perfectly free to use the market place to buy the food you want. It is the use of govt regulation that force small business out and reduce your choice that is objected to.


23 posted on 12/27/2012 9:13:03 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.))
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To: darth
Is Fukushima radiation killing Americans?

Let's send all 535 members of congress to Fukishima to investigate.

24 posted on 12/27/2012 9:24:38 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty ( "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" - Pretty Clear to me!)
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To: Calvin Locke; Future Snake Eater; Norm Lenhart

And of course, to quote Grace Slick, those “Preservatives might just be preserving you!”


25 posted on 12/27/2012 9:30:10 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

That’s a good point. Considering my health, it’s that or divine intervention ;)


26 posted on 12/27/2012 9:34:02 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: PeterPrinciple
It is the use of govt regulation that force small business out and reduce your choice that is objected to.

Sure, but about a simple label on a food item that says "This product uses GMO" or some such? Very anti-business around here. I can empathize with people who don't understand or care about such an issue as I was one of them for a long time, but it would be rather helpful if we could sidestep this crap if we wanted to, and God knows businesses like Monsanto aren't going to do it voluntarily.

I dislike gov't regulations as much as the next guy, but I don't believe they're all evil and useless, either.

27 posted on 12/27/2012 9:45:11 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Want bread without preservatives?

BREAD MACHINE....
I got mine new for $50... bread costs half what the store charges... in less than a year it paid for itself, and I know exactly what goes in each loaf...


28 posted on 12/27/2012 10:18:38 AM PST by Yehuda
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To: The Sons of Liberty

>> Let’s send all 535 members of congress to Fukishima to investigate.

I agree, but we’re too broke for that kind of travel expense.

So take ‘em halfway by boat and make ‘em swim the rest.


29 posted on 12/27/2012 10:20:32 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

Go to www.ki4u.com

They sell and calibrate rad meters.

I got mine at a garage sale for $5.

For another $500 I got those guys to repair and calibrate it.

They have instructions on how to make your own meter for a few dollars. I have done that before.

Good luck.


30 posted on 12/27/2012 10:29:36 AM PST by darth
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To: nascarnation

Dunno.

I am not an expert, but I know how to read the meter.


31 posted on 12/27/2012 10:54:41 AM PST by darth
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Kewl.


32 posted on 12/27/2012 10:55:36 AM PST by darth
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To: darth
U.S. Sailors Sue Japan Over Fukushima

Eight crew members of the U.S.S. Ronald Reagan, whose home port is San Diego, sued the Tokyo Electric Power Co. in Federal Court.

They claim the utility company, "a wholly owned public benefit subsidiary of the government of Japan," misrepresented radiation levels to lull the U.S. Navy "into a false sense of security."

Sounds kinda familiar to me.

33 posted on 12/27/2012 11:03:20 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Future Snake Eater

monsanto is the devil.


34 posted on 12/27/2012 11:56:47 AM PST by Augie
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To: Future Snake Eater

Sure, but about a simple label on a food item that says

I dislike gov’t regulations as much as the next guy


No you don’t dislike govt regulations. A simple label, do you not understand how govt works.? Do youR own research, no one stops you. Find the seller who will certify non gmo for you and pay extra for it.

I swear there is very little difference between liberals and conservatives now days! THE SOLUTION TO EVERY PROBLEM IS GOVT.


35 posted on 12/27/2012 12:09:35 PM PST by PeterPrinciple ( (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.))
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To: Future Snake Eater

God knows businesses like Monsanto aren’t going to do it voluntarily.


And monsanto is the only corporation that can deal with the simple little label you want. So youR labEL makes it DAMN hard for a small business to give you what you REALLY want.

The only business that can deal with your simple little label is BIG BUSINESS. BIG BUSINESS and BIG GOVT go hand in hand.


36 posted on 12/27/2012 12:13:47 PM PST by PeterPrinciple
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To: PeterPrinciple

I love this argument that a simple label will bankrupt companies. Please enlighten me.


37 posted on 12/27/2012 1:49:47 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater

We are being eaten alive with regulations, and you don’t see it? That is the whole problem. You don’t understand that the only ones who can do your “simple idea” is big business?

I REPEAT, THERE IS VERY LITTLE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LIBERALS AND CONSERVATIVES.


38 posted on 12/27/2012 2:28:15 PM PST by PeterPrinciple
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To: PeterPrinciple

Right, so you can’t detail to me how slapping .005 cents worth of ink on a package is going to bankrupt numerous businesses. Don’t worry, neither could the people on that CA Prop thread.


39 posted on 12/27/2012 2:33:26 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: darth

Impossible.

We were told over and over by all the experts (I was AMAZED at how many experts there are here on FR that specialized in nuclear radiation) that all it would be would amount to a chest x-ray (or two) or maybe a cross-continental flight.

I got my detector in August and background counts were consistently in the 20-40 CPM (counts per minute) range.

Since then, it has elevated - but only slightly, perhaps to 30-70 CPM.

This is still less than one would expect in eastern Washington, where they get the effects from the Hanford reservation.


40 posted on 12/27/2012 2:36:45 PM PST by djf (Conservative values help the poor. Liberal values help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: Future Snake Eater
That is the damn problem - you who think is is only a little thing. You are right this is just a little thing but it is a straw on the camels back. We have MILLIONS of little things that only in your opinion cost $.oo5.

Get off your fat ass, go down to the food coop and buy your non gmo food from someone you can trust. Don't expect another law to solve YOUR perceived problem,

Ok, now go get your thinking cap. Who is going to enforce this law, what bureaucrat is going to interpret the law? YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND BURAUCRACIES.

Now, even if we do this, it doesn't get you what you want. It is very difficult and expensive to prove something is non gmo. The path of least resistance is now to label EVERYTHING GMO because there is less liability doing that.
So now we have all food labeled GMO because . Your local food producer can't prove it is Non GMO, He cant take the risk either. SO YOU HAVE ACTUALLY ELIMINATED WHAT YOU THOUGHT YOU WANTED.

I can tell you don't own or run a business! Conservatives on this site are just like the liberals, they don't want freedom and responsibility, they want the govt to take care of them.

41 posted on 12/29/2012 6:37:14 AM PST by PeterPrinciple
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To: PeterPrinciple
Are you suggesting that all regulations and requirements are intrusive and counter to the health and welfare of the general public? Do you really think we'd be better off with a completely laissez-faire economy and that businesses would care more about us than nameless/faceless bureaucrats?

There is a happy medium, whether you want to admit it or not, and I don't think it's too much to ask to make it a little bit easier to know what I'm putting in my body.

This isn't some dietary thing to gain mass or look good for the beach season; people could literally be poisoning themselves on this crap.

42 posted on 12/29/2012 7:14:04 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Get off your fat ass, go down to the food coop and buy what you want!

As I explained,your law won’t do anything to solve YOUR problem. IT will create more problems than it will solve.


43 posted on 12/29/2012 7:23:47 AM PST by PeterPrinciple
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To: PeterPrinciple

My fat ass?


44 posted on 12/29/2012 8:09:43 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater
You asked me to explain to you why it is a burden on business. You think it cost just a $.005 label.

I did. You did not acknowledge or counter my points.

Your fat ass is right. Get off it and go buy what you want because you have freedom now to do so but you do not want to be responsible for yourself. Some people need offending and you are one, because you can't think your way out of a paper bag.

45 posted on 12/29/2012 8:30:31 AM PST by PeterPrinciple
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To: PeterPrinciple

So, to ensure I understand, a label is an unbearable burden, ALL regulations are bad, all businesses (and, therefore, the people who run them) are good, and unless a person has ever owned or run a business, they can’t possibly have a good reason for wanting a change—however slight—to be made. Do I have that right?


46 posted on 12/29/2012 8:42:37 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater
I thank you for your comments, they have been very revealing to me.

I now understand that your generation has grown up with the govt solving every problem for you and your expecting that through out your life.

That you have the non gmo readily available to you NOW but think govt should solve your problem.

That is is all about you and you have NO understanding of others.

That you so eagerly quote the general welfare clause.

That a discussion of reducing govt brings up the word anarchy.

That you have no concept of freedom, choices and responsibility. Why are you here on a conservative site. What does conservatism mean to you? I TRUELY FEAR FOR OUR FUTURE Thank you for revealting this to me.

47 posted on 01/01/2013 7:23:19 AM PST by PeterPrinciple
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To: darth

I’m surprised the New York Times isn’t all over this story. The MSM has a natural hatred of all things nuclear after all... Maybe dems haven’t had time to feed them the story - or it’s in conflict with a liberal’s idea of ‘healthy eating’...


48 posted on 01/03/2013 8:32:11 AM PST by GOPJ (It's not possible to be a Progressive and not be a hypocrite. Freeper TigersEye.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
And just what are preservatives that can do that doing to your guts?

People have been eating 'Wonder Bread' since the 1950's. It's perfectly safe - unlike Brown Rice that's filled with arsenic... (See Consumer Reports - November 2012 for a full listing of arsenic laden rice products - Carolina Whole Grain Brown Rice comes in at 6.4 to 8.7 micrograms of arsenic per serving.)

Run from the Carolina and Delta brown rice, Barbara's brown rice crisps, and Lundberg Sweet Dreams Eco-farmed Brown rice syrup... waaaay to much arsenic. And skip the grilled tuna. Enjoy spun white bread - it's good for you.

49 posted on 01/03/2013 8:48:29 AM PST by GOPJ (It's not possible to be a Progressive and not be a hypocrite. Freeper TigersEye.)
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To: GOPJ

Actually I wasn’t talking about wonder. ANY bread, white or wheat will last indefinitely now with only a slight change in flavor and consistency.

I eat it. But I can’t see how it can be ‘good’ for me. EVERYTHING we have access to is a chem factory today. There is no way around it. Even seeds are GM so we can’t even grow our own unmolested food.


50 posted on 01/03/2013 1:12:02 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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