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Fiscal Cliff Deal Close - Spending Not Included
Political Realities ^ | 12/31/12 | LD Jackson

Posted on 12/31/2012 5:23:24 PM PST by LD Jackson

Just in case you are tuning in to the ever-changing saga about the fiscal cliff and whatever deal may be finalized in the late hours of 2012, or the early hours of 2013, here is the latest. According to most reports I have read, a deal is close to being done (could it be the deal was done weeks ago). Those same reports are saying the deal will include an agreement on the tax issues of the fiscal cliff, but nothing on spending. Unless you count extending unemployment benefits for another year as a victory on spending.

(Hot Air) As for details, there are no new spending cuts, only discussion of tax rates and how much more we’ll spend. There are wins for sanity in the mix (permanent AMT fix), but this is not a “deficit reduction” plan, folks. Welcome to this warped town. Negotiators will call it a plan to make “wiser” cuts than sequestration would have, but sentient beings are right to be concerned about whether they will ever materialize.
Fiscal CliffI would now like to see a show of hands of anyone who is not surprised at the outcome we are likely to see in the coming hours. I don't know about you, but this is what frustrates me so much about Washington and both political parties. For nearly a year, we have listened to our political leaders, Democratic and Republican alike, as they have foretold of the coming fiscal cliff. Much ado was made of how bad the coming tax increases would be for the American economy. Unless you were making over $250,000 as a couple. That classified you as rich and as a rich person, you needed to pay your fair share. Little was said about the spending cuts, other than they would also be bad for the economy. If you failed to grasp the logic of that theory, you aren't the only one.

The deal we are likely to see will probably include a deal to make the current tax rates permanent, up to $400,000 for individuals, or $450,000 for couples. They will go up to 39.6% after that. Unemployment benefits will be extended, ie. more unnecessary spending, and any mention of spending cuts is out of the question. The sequestration spending cuts will probably be put off for at least two months and I'll be surprised if they ever surface again. Hence, my frustration. You'll just have to forgive me for sounding so skeptical about anything coming out of Washington.

The Democrats, especially President Obama, have been very successful at portraying the fiscal cliff as being all about taxes. Everywhere you turn, you can hear them talking about the coming tax increase on the middle class. Taxes, taxes, taxes! That's all they want to talk about. As for the Republicans? Well, they have been missing in action. For the most part, they have been totally and completely unsuccessful at turning this discussion back to its proper roots, which is the uncontrolled spending taking place in Washington. How many times do we have to say this? Taxes are not the problem. It's the spending, stupid!


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: fiscalcliff; taxes

1 posted on 12/31/2012 5:23:35 PM PST by LD Jackson
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To: LD Jackson

Nothing good happens in congress on holiday eve.


2 posted on 12/31/2012 5:26:37 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: LD Jackson
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3 posted on 12/31/2012 5:26:43 PM PST by RetSignman ("A Republic if you can keep it"....)
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To: LD Jackson

call GOP Congressmen , tell them not to vote for this nor any deal , go over the news media’s stupid cliff:

Congress switchboard number: (202) 224-3121.

It’s not a cliff , it’s just media bs. if there is no vote tonight the media makes it seem like it is the end of the world . that’s a bunch of bull.


4 posted on 12/31/2012 5:32:49 PM PST by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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To: LD Jackson
So, Obama gets what he wants anyway and STILL gets to ridicule the Republicans and spike the football in his ‘news’ conference. I am so embarrassed at the sycophantic Media and the immaturity of those in charge of this country. I miss my free and prosperous country. RIP USA. Here comes the USSA. I am expecting secession news from the Southern States soon. I will move to ensure my freedom to succeed or fail of my own volition.
5 posted on 12/31/2012 5:35:51 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: LD Jackson

Brett Bair just did a brief rundown and it looks like crap. Make your money fast folks. America has a long road.


6 posted on 12/31/2012 5:39:39 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: LD Jackson

Sequestration is definitely going to come up again. Republicans already are pushing for switching those across-the-board cuts to savings in the Medicare and Social Security healthcare and retirement programs and threatening to block a debt limit increase in February unless they get their way.


7 posted on 12/31/2012 5:41:09 PM PST by erlayman
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To: originalbuckeye

I’ll have to move myself and I’m in NC. Let me know when your ready and pool resources to buy 25 acres in E TN. :^)

They still have it well.


8 posted on 12/31/2012 5:42:31 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: LD Jackson

** GET RID OF BONER AND HIS BACKROOM BOYS **

Useless bastards that they are. Fire Boner — we need someone who is a fighter, not a two-bit weak politician, and who believes in the democratic process that this country had at one time.

What a disaster for the American people. The debt of this country will NEVER be paid down. Let the idiot voters that re-elected Obama pay the bills.


9 posted on 12/31/2012 5:42:48 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: LD Jackson

PS-We get the Constitution. They aren’t using it anyway.


10 posted on 12/31/2012 5:47:54 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: LD Jackson
Yay for lurching leftward.

Dear GOP,

For future reference, when one side wants to raise taxes, and you strive for a less cumbersome, apportioned slave tax, don't start by arguing on the left's side of the equator.

Your counter-offer is a flat tax of 15%. Not, let's raise taxes for everyone over 1MM of taxable income. Children.
11 posted on 12/31/2012 6:11:55 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: LD Jackson

Of course, the GOP has been ready to cave since day one


12 posted on 12/31/2012 7:28:40 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: LD Jackson; All

Any year to year Federal spending cuts?


13 posted on 12/31/2012 8:36:06 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Communal Obama"care" violates Anti-Trust Laws, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: RetSignman

The pic depicts how it’s being handled - what they don’t see is the huge sink hole in the middle of the street...


14 posted on 01/01/2013 5:26:38 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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