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To: WhiskeyX

There are so many different angles that could be explained (like the passport breach, draft registration forgery, etc), but for right now at least I think the short summary is this:

In an application for verification, AZ SOS Ken Bennett asked Alvin Onaka to verify that Barack Hussein Obama, II, male, was born on Aug 4, 1961 in Honolulu on the island of Oahu, to Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Hussein Obama. Though required by law to verify any submitted information that could be certified as the way the birth actually happened, Onaka did not verify any of those facts.

In response to Bennett’s additional page of requests he did verify that the claims on the White House image of Obama’s BC are also claimed on the record on file. If the record was valid, Onaka would have to verify the truth of all the above-listed facts. By refusing to verify those things, Onaka indirectly confirmed (and certified) that Obama’s Hawaii BC is not legally valid.

The media mis-reported all this because they didn’t take the time to see Bennett’s actual application or to look up the laws Onaka was required to follow.

Though most of the world believes the media version rather than what the law actually says, the fact is that Hawaii verified that they have no legally-determined birth date, birth place, or birth parents for Obama. Without knowing those facts for Obama, there is no way anybody can lawfully say Obama has qualified and no way that he actually ever COULD qualify.

To get Obama’s name on the state ballots, DNC Counsel bob Bauer submitted an Official Certification of Nomination claliming that Obama is qualified to serve as President. That cannot be known without legally-established birth facts for Obama, and Hawaii law says the only way to legally determine his birth facts is if the record is presented as evidence to a judicial or administrative person or body and it is decided whether the claims on the BC have any legal or evidentiary value.

Until that happens it is LEGALLY KNOWN that he cannot qualify to be President. The 20th Amendment says that if the President elect “fails to qualify” by the beginning of his term, he must not “act as President”.

Unless Obama is taken to court and forced to present his birth record as evidence so the legal value of it can be determined and legal birth facts established, Obama can NEVER “qualify”.


63 posted on 01/03/2013 6:49:49 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion; LucyT; All
Contact you congresscritter tonight, all night and early in the morning Here.

All it will take is a few no votes, and it gets reviewed. IIRC, I think it's one in the house and one in the senate. Anyone know this for sure? Spread the word!

Okay, just found this: Can electoral votes be contested when Congress counts the votes in January?

From the site:

"Can electoral votes be contested when Congress counts the votes in January?"

" Under federal law an objection to a state’s Electoral votes may be made to the President of the Senate during Congress’s counting of Electoral votes in January. The objection must be made in writing and signed by at least one Senator and one member of the House of Representatives. Both the Senate and the House of Representatives debate the objection separately. Debate is limited to two hours. After the debate, both the Senate and the House of Representatives rejoin and both must agree to reject the votes."

FReep em'!

75 posted on 01/03/2013 8:33:38 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: butterdezillion
The 20th Amendment says that if the President elect “fails to qualify” by the beginning of his term, he must not “act as President”. Unless Obama is taken to court and forced to present his birth record as evidence so the legal value of it can be determined and legal birth facts established, Obama can NEVER “qualify”.

The “Failed to Qualify” Eligibility Issue .

84 posted on 01/03/2013 10:05:00 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: butterdezillion

Thank you so much for your passion and dedication to this issue! In the email I just sent to my Representative, I took the liberty of borrowing from your summary (hopefully without mangling your reasoning too much!) and adding some additional context. It is probably too long, but tries to tie together many of the issues surrounding the man called Obama:

Dear Representative xxx, the rule of law is a key enabler of our success as a nation. Respect for the law promotes limited government, personal liberty and economic freedom. The alternative to rule of law is rule by man — tyranny. Unfortunately, the rule of law has been under attack in this country for some time.

One of the most egregious demonstrations of this attack is the fraud and deception surrounding the eligibility of Barack Obama to be President of the US. Obama himself claimed for many years to be born in Kenya, and his father was a citizen of Kenya. Either of these facts would mean that Obama is NOT a natural born citizen as required by Article II section 1 of the Constitution.

Beyond this, it’s frankly not clear who Barack Obama is — law enforcement officials have demonstrated that the ‘birth certificate’ presented by Obama in 2011 is fraudulent, that his Selective Service registration is fraudulent, and that he is using the Social Security Number of a deceased person (SSNs are not recycled). In an application for verification, Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett asked Alvin Onaka of the Hawaii Department of Health to verify birth facts of Barack Hussein Obama. Though required by law to verify any submitted information that could be certified, Onaka effectively could not verify any of those facts. Onaka thereby indirectly confirmed (and certified) that Obama’s Hawaii birth certificate is not legally valid. The state of Hawaii has thus verified that they have no legally-determined birth date, birth place, or birth parents for Obama.

Without knowing those facts for Obama, there is no way anybody can lawfully say Obama has qualified and no way that he actually ever COULD qualify to be President of the US. To get Obama’s name on state ballots, Democrat National Committee Counsel Bob Bauer submitted an Official Certification of Nomination claiming that Obama is qualified to serve as President. That cannot be known without legally-established birth facts for Obama, and Hawaii law says the only way to legally determine his birth facts is if the record is presented as evidence to a judicial or administrative person or body.

Until that happens, it is LEGALLY KNOWN that he cannot qualify to be President. The 20th Amendment says that if the President elect “fails to qualify” by the beginning of his term, he must not “act as President.” We the People deserve to have these issues of the eligibility (and even identity) of Barack Obama resolved. YOU can enable this resolution by making a written objection to any or all state’s Electoral votes (obtained via the identity and election fraud sketched above) to the President of the Senate during Congress’s counting of Electoral votes TODAY, January 4. This action is by no means unprecedented: Electoral college votes were challenged in 2000. You can uphold your oath of office, serve your district and the nation, and make history by taking this step. Will you support the rule of law?


90 posted on 01/04/2013 12:58:22 AM PST by Hetuck
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To: butterdezillion

The GOP has invited everyone to communicate their concerns about this eligibility issue to the GOP Chairman. Anyone can request the help of the Chairman to seek the desired action on this urgent eligibility issue. Communications can be addressed to:

Chairman Reince Priebus
Republican National Committee (RNC)
310 First Street, SE Washington, DC 20003
202-863-8500
FAX 202-863-8820
E-mail info@gop.com

Although members of Congress may not respond to the communications of the GOP Chariman and his staff, they said they will make the effort.


128 posted on 01/04/2013 9:03:03 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: butterdezillion
Butter,

I have done a bit of editing to your "script" to clarify and "punch it up" a bit:

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The 20th Amendment says that if the President elect “fails to qualify” by the beginning of his term, he must not “act as President”.

AZ Secretary of State, Ken Bennett formally requested that Hawaii Registrar Alvin Onaka verify these claimed "facts" that Barack Hussein Obama, II, male, was born

  1. on Aug 4, 1961
  2. in Honolulu
  3. on the island of Oahu,
  4. to Stanley Ann Dunham and
  5. Barack Hussein Obama.

Though required by Hawaii law [CITE HERE] to verify any submitted information that could be certified as the way the birth actually happened, Onaka did not verify any of those claims.

In response to Bennett’s additional page of requests Onaka did verify that the claims on the White House image of Obama’s BC are also claimed on the record on file. If the record were valid, Onaka is required by law to verify the truth of all the above-listed claims. By refusing to verify those things, Onaka indirectly confirmed (and certified) that Obama’s Hawaii BC is not legally valid.

Though most of the world believes the media and White House version rather than what the law actually says, the fact is that Hawaii has verified that they have no legally-determined birth date, birth place, or birth parents for Obama. Without knowing those facts for Obama, there is no way anybody can lawfully say Obama has qualified and no way that he actually ever COULD qualify.

To get Obama’s name on the state ballots, DNC Counsel bob Bauer submitted an Official Certification of Nomination claliming that Obama is qualified to serve as President. That cannot be known without legally-established birth facts for Obama, and Hawaii law says the only way to legally determine his birth facts is if the record is presented as evidence to a judicial or administrative person or body and it is decided whether the claims on the BC have any legal or evidentiary value.

Until that happens it is LEGALLY KNOWN that Barack Obama cannot qualify to be President.

Unless Obama is taken to court and forced to present his birth record as evidence so the legal value of it can be determined and legal birth facts established, Obama can NEVER “qualify” as required by the 20th Amendment.

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I believe it would have more "punch" if we cited (the numeric designation of) Hawaii law where it is mentioned -- or, at least once. My point being that this presentation /argument / charge relies on both HI Law and the 20th Amendment.

Also, it does not issue a specific request for action (suit by a congress member).

Your thoughts?

153 posted on 01/04/2013 10:42:11 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: butterdezillion
Butter,

I have done a bit more editing to your "script" to clarify and "punch it up" even more:

~~~~~~~~~~~

The 20th Amendment says that if the President-elect “fails to qualify” by the beginning of his term (JAN 20), he must not “act as President”.

AZ Secretary of State, Ken Bennett formally requested that Hawaii Registrar Alvin Onaka verify these claimed "facts" that Barack Hussein Obama, II, male, was born

  1. on Aug 4, 1961
  2. in Honolulu
  3. on the island of Oahu,
  4. to Stanley Ann Dunham and
  5. Barack Hussein Obama.

Though required by Hawaii law [HRS 338-14.3] to verify any submitted information that could be certified as the way the birth actually happened, Onaka did not verify any of those claims.

In response to Bennett’s additional page of requests Onaka did verify that the claims on the White House image of Obama’s BC are also claimed in ("match") the record on file. If the record were valid, Onaka is required by law to verify the truth of all the above-listed claims. By refusing to verify those things, Onaka indirectly confirmed (and certified) that Obama’s Hawaii BC, even if NOT a forgery, is based on a legally INvalid record.

Though most of the world believes the media and White House version rather than what the law actually says, the fact is that Hawaii has verified that they have no legally-determined birth date, birth place, or birth parents for Obama. Without knowing those facts for Obama, there is no way anybody can lawfully say Obama has qualified and no way that he actually ever COULD qualify.

To get Obama’s name on the state ballots, DNC Counsel bob Bauer submitted an Official Certification of Nomination claliming that Obama is qualified to serve as President. That could not and can not be known without legally-established birth facts for Obama, and Hawaii law says the only way to legally determine his birth facts is if the record is presented as evidence to a judicial or administrative person or body and it is decided whether the claims on the BC have any legal or evidentiary value.

Until that happens it is LEGALLY KNOWN that Barack Obama cannot qualify to be President.

In order to qualify (or disqualify) Barack Hussin Obama for inauguration on January 20, at least one (D or R) member of Congress (having unquestioned "standing" to do so) must file a suit to force the Hawaii Registrar to present Obama's Hawaii records as evidence to a judicial (or "administrative") court for an "up/down" determination of their probative value.

Unless Obama or the Hawaii Registrar, Onaka, is taken to court and forced to present Obama's birth record as evidence so the legal value of it can be determined and legal birth facts established, Obama can NEVER “qualify” for the Presidency as required by the 20th Amendment.

What congressperson is willing to step forward and perform this duty to his oath of office?

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Redistricting has just changed me from TX Congressional District 1 (Louie Gohert) to District 4 (Ralph Hall). The good news is that I am personal friends with his local office manager -- who also happens to attend my church! I just talked with him, and he specifically asked that I send him your materials, so that he can forward them to Hall's Chief of Staff in DC.

I was encouraged that he was already familiar with the AZ SOS's letter and by his comment, "There are a lot of guys in Congress who would love to have a way to bring Obama down!"

Your thoughts?

163 posted on 01/04/2013 1:57:07 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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