Posted on 01/03/2013 12:29:36 PM PST by butterdezillion
I just found out that all the faxes I sent to the Republican members of Congress have been referred to just the 3 Congress-critters who represent me. I need everybody to contact your own Congress members and let them know that Hawaii registrar Alvin Onaka has certified to AZ SOS Ken Bennett that Obama's Hawaii birth certificate is not legally valid.
Bennett asked Onaka to verify, among other things, that Obama, male, was born on Aug 4, 1961, in Honolulu on Oahu to Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Hussein Obama. According to Hawaii law, Onaka has to verify any submitted information if he can certify that the birth actually happened that way. And though Onaka verified that the claims on the White House image are claimed on the record they've got, he did not verify the truth of any of those facts. The only lawful reason for that is if the record they have is not legally valid.
You can see the documentation for all this at http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/complete-klayman-letter-to-bauer.pdf
Two other verifications (to MDEC and to KS SOS Kris Kobach) are also consistent with a non-valid record. Onaka has been willing to say that the claims that are actually on the White House image "match" the claims on the record but is NOT willing to say that the information is "identical" or that the White House image is a "true and accurate representation of the original record on file". His refusal to verify what he was specifically asked is his confirmation that those things are NOT true. It is NOT a true and accurate representation of the original record and the information in it is NOT identical to the information in the real record. IOW, the White House image is a forgery.
Which is what affidavits by Sheriff Joe Arpaio and his Cold Case Posse commander, Mike Zullo, also say.
This fits with the 1960-64 birth index being altered to include non-valid records (which I've proven in an affidavit filed for a NE criminal case). And a bunch of other evidence too.
The long and short of it is this: Hawaii has officially certified that they cannot verify Obama's date of birth, city and island of birth, and parents' names. Those are critical to eligibility. With no legally-established birth facts, there is nobody who can certify that Obama is eligible, and every Official Certification of Nomination that Bob Bauer sent to the state SOS's to get Obama on the ballot are fraudulent at best.
IOW, every electoral vote that Obama got was the result of legally-acknowledged (by Hawaii) fraud.
We need the members of Congress to know that every electoral vote for Obama that they accept tomorrow is a vote to accept known criminal behavior.
Please help me get this word out to everybody, since the "machine" will only let me contact 3 people, and I've already done that. We need one Senator and one Representative to object to all the known-fraudulent electoral votes for Barack Obama.
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I need a script! I do! I don't know what to say without sounding like a nutcase or fool. I'm not well versed in these legal details or educated and I barely understand the details myself. I'll call my R rep tomorrow and if I feel strong enough I could call the Demfiends. But I can't fax (our ancient fax machine is barely functional) so I don't know how to get the material to them. I wish there was more time. Personally I think the whole system is too corrupt and broken to fix without total collapse but even if that is true, butterdezillion's and others' efforts are well done and will stand historically as the right thing to do.
There are so many different angles that could be explained (like the passport breach, draft registration forgery, etc), but for right now at least I think the short summary is this:
In an application for verification, AZ SOS Ken Bennett asked Alvin Onaka to verify that Barack Hussein Obama, II, male, was born on Aug 4, 1961 in Honolulu on the island of Oahu, to Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Hussein Obama. Though required by law to verify any submitted information that could be certified as the way the birth actually happened, Onaka did not verify any of those facts.
In response to Bennett’s additional page of requests he did verify that the claims on the White House image of Obama’s BC are also claimed on the record on file. If the record was valid, Onaka would have to verify the truth of all the above-listed facts. By refusing to verify those things, Onaka indirectly confirmed (and certified) that Obama’s Hawaii BC is not legally valid.
The media mis-reported all this because they didn’t take the time to see Bennett’s actual application or to look up the laws Onaka was required to follow.
Though most of the world believes the media version rather than what the law actually says, the fact is that Hawaii verified that they have no legally-determined birth date, birth place, or birth parents for Obama. Without knowing those facts for Obama, there is no way anybody can lawfully say Obama has qualified and no way that he actually ever COULD qualify.
To get Obama’s name on the state ballots, DNC Counsel bob Bauer submitted an Official Certification of Nomination claliming that Obama is qualified to serve as President. That cannot be known without legally-established birth facts for Obama, and Hawaii law says the only way to legally determine his birth facts is if the record is presented as evidence to a judicial or administrative person or body and it is decided whether the claims on the BC have any legal or evidentiary value.
Until that happens it is LEGALLY KNOWN that he cannot qualify to be President. The 20th Amendment says that if the President elect “fails to qualify” by the beginning of his term, he must not “act as President”.
Unless Obama is taken to court and forced to present his birth record as evidence so the legal value of it can be determined and legal birth facts established, Obama can NEVER “qualify”.
Thank you! Now is one of the times the rest of us hope that the “Don’t Mess With Texas” swagger really means something. We need you guys and your representatives to be the no-nonsense, don’t-mess-with-me people that we know you can be. The country really needs you now! I hope Gohmert especially realizes what is on the line here, and how much the forensic and legal evidence would back him up.
Everybody PLEASE pray strongly for all these folks, but especially for Gohmert tonight. Goliath is breathing fire against us all and we need 3 small stones, a sling, and a David willing to take a well-aimed shot.
Look at the summary I just posted to Whiskey and see if you think that would work as a script. If not, or if you or others have constructive advice for how to improve it, I’ll have something you could use as a script by morning. As could others, if we’ve got them ready to give their Senators and Rep a call.
I’ll watch for feedback on that summary and adjust it as necessary by morning. I’m too close to the details; I don’t know how virgins to this issue think or hear any more so I need the advice and feedback of people farther away from it. And both null and void and TXnMA can tell you that I am willing to act on constructive advice without taking offense so don’t be afraid to say anything, either on the thread or in Freepmail.
Well, I intend to bombard all my Texas reps with faxes and phone calls- especially Gohmert- right down to the wire.
Count on it.
Do we have a way to find Freepers or Tea Partiers from those areas who would be willing to call their members of Congress?
Does anybody here have any kind of “in” with the folks at Hobby Lobby?
The challenge at this point is how soon they have to have a written objection submitted. And it has to be submitted by at least one Rep and one Senator.
I think we need to make sure that these people realize that there is no way that Obama can qualify by Jan 20th unless SOMEBODY files a lawsuit and forces the records to be submitted as evidence. Even if the electoral votes are certified and Obama declared the winner, that only makes him the President elect, and he can (and will, without court action to determine his legal birth facts) still “fail to qualify” by Jan 20th. That’s where simply by filing a lawsuit with standing, any ONE Congressman can still poke his finger in the eye of people like Boehner and Axelrod - and bring down the whole blasted machine that has enabled the last 4 years of heck.
And I’d love it if somebody from Texas had the stones to do it.
Mad? Nope..I’ve been married 30 years to an asshole just like you...sooooo..I’m in the process of liberating myself! Just figured you were the next best candidate that reminds me of that...Discernment is a gift I finally use...+ what I can do to make me experience freedom! It’s not totally your fault though...I blame myself for being attracted to one in the first place. But make no mistake...I can now point one out in a crowd in 2 seconds! And you won!
Then it could turn out that he's constitutionally eligible, yet guilty of myriad felonies. In any event, the fit would definitely hit the shan, were it to be irrefutably demonstrated publicly that he's deceived everyone as to who he is.
crude and distasteful post to humblegunner, particularly given your screen name and profile. not good.
” - - - We need one Senator and one Representative to object to all the known-fraudulent electoral votes for Barack Obama.”
This is butter’s goal.
She has done a tremendous job to date.
Let each of us help her achieve her above stated goal.
All it will take is a few no votes, and it gets reviewed. IIRC, I think it's one in the house and one in the senate. Anyone know this for sure? Spread the word!
Okay, just found this: Can electoral votes be contested when Congress counts the votes in January?
From the site:
"Can electoral votes be contested when Congress counts the votes in January?"
" Under federal law an objection to a state’s Electoral votes may be made to the President of the Senate during Congress’s counting of Electoral votes in January. The objection must be made in writing and signed by at least one Senator and one member of the House of Representatives. Both the Senate and the House of Representatives debate the objection separately. Debate is limited to two hours. After the debate, both the Senate and the House of Representatives rejoin and both must agree to reject the votes."
FReep em'!
Oh stop! you haven’t witnessed what he post? if you haven’t I’ll show you mercy, otherwise you’re just another typical hypocrite. LOL! defending minion, idiot! go away.
violent street riots? And threats of personal violence against opponents and their families. Reasons good enough to block most Janes and Joes
You need to give yourself more credit.
I’ll outline some ideas, and get back to you, It will be necessary for those interested in this issue or related subjects to add their input. Also some rules and techniques on brainstorming are useful in creating effective meetings or developing plans, perhaps there are Freepers reading this post who have expertise in Organizational Development analysts. That would be quite useful.
The point is everyone who participates brings to the table strengths and abilities unique to the task at hand.
Only thing is, they’re gonna get that anyway, if Obama keeps on with his agenda. It’s just a matter of time. If those things happen before Obama has totally destroyed the rule of law, then these people can have others to help keep them safe. If it happens afterwards, they will be alone. We will all be alone.
I think of the passage in Ecclesiastes where it says that if a man falls when he is alone there is nobody to pick him up. If one sleeps alone they get cold but with 2 they can keep each other warm. And a cord of 3 strands is not quickly torn apart.
We need to hold to each other while we still can. When it’s chaos and every man for himself it will be heck on earth.
If words are hurled with malice of intent,
Perhaps a problem is owned by them?
When at a loss, just stop and ask:
“What would Jesus say?”
BTW, DO contact your Federal Politician. Butterdezillion’s Pastor will appreciate that.
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