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"Universal Background Checks":Code for Universal Gun Registration
Gun Watch ^ | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 01/13/2013 6:48:26 AM PST by marktwain

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To: umgud

I have always thought that if a background check was really needed, it should be checking the buyer’s name against a list of people not eligible to own a firearm. It’s the other way around now. Every background check is a data mining operation to create lists of people buying guns and what they buy. Of course we knew this in the beginning no matter what they said. It’s all to support incremental steps toward the complete elimination of guns in private hands.


21 posted on 01/13/2013 9:10:01 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: marktwain

Gun registration, the lib’s desire since 1962 when Thomas J Dodd and Emanuel Cellar called for the registration of all handguns only. Long guns will not be affected they said.

That didn’t last long.

By 1964 they wanted the registration of all guns.

By 1980 Handgun control Inc still was demanding the control of all handguns. Long guns will not be affected.

That didn’t last long.

Here is what the founder of HCI said.

Nelson T. ‘Pete’ Shields
Founder of Handgun Control, Inc.

“I’m convinced that we have to have federal legislation to build on. We’re going to have to take one step at a time, and the first step is necessarily — given the political realities — going to be very modest. Of course, it’s true that politicians will then go home and say, ‘This is a great law. The problem is solved.’ And it’s also true that such statements will tend to defuse the gun-control issue for a time.

So then we’ll have to strengthen that law, and then again to strengthen that law, and maybe again and again. Right now, though, we’d be satisfied not with half a loaf but with a slice. Our ultimate goal — total control of handguns in the United States — is going to take time. My estimate is from seven to ten years.

The problem is to slow down the increasing number of handguns sold in this country. The second problem is to get them all registered. And the final problem is to make the possession of all handguns and all handgun ammunition — except for the military, policemen, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs, and licensed gun collectors — totally illegal.”

-Pete Shields, Chairman and founder, Handgun Control Inc., “A Reporter At Large: Handguns,” The New Yorker, July 26, 1976, 57-58


22 posted on 01/13/2013 9:30:39 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: umgud

I don’t think that anything needs to be done. In my view all existing federal gun laws should be repealed.


23 posted on 01/13/2013 11:05:40 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: umgud

But the government WANTS violent criminals because that is the only way that people will willingly give up their RKBA.


24 posted on 01/13/2013 12:11:04 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The only thing that Hollywood gets right about guns is that criminals will always get them.)
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25 posted on 01/13/2013 12:13:35 PM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: Yo-Yo
Amen. If you require universal background checks for all firearm transactions including face-to-face within your own state, then you also need to "prove" that the background check was done. That means that a record of the sale needs to be kept somewhere.

In the late 1980's, my college bookstore didn't validate credit cards electronically, but instead checked their numbers against a list of invalid ones. Computer technology is such that if there were a satisfactory solution to the privacy issues surrounding letting anyone know whether anyone else has ever been on the "forbidden list", the issue of proving a check was done wouldn't necessarily be a particular problem. If the seller keeps a copy of the credentials used to purchase the weapon, and there is an indelible public record of who was forbidden on what days, then the fact that the credentials aren't on the forbidden list for the date of purchase would mean the seller was in the clear.

Of course, that wouldn't solve the more fundamental problem which is that there's no reason to believe that the government wouldn't endeavor to add to the forbidden list people who have neither been adjudicated mentally incompetent nor been accused (must less convicted) of having committed any crime. Indeed, only a fool would believe such a thing given the government's effort to do precisely that.

26 posted on 01/13/2013 8:51:28 PM PST by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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To: SERKIT
""balanced capabilty defensive weapon"?"

Multi Perp Preventer.

27 posted on 01/13/2013 9:00:32 PM PST by Paladin2
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