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Refusal to Allow Smart Meter cause for Arrest
The Blaze ^ | 1/24/13 | Pleistarchos

Posted on 01/24/2013 7:57:31 PM PST by Pleistarchos

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To: Jonty30
"I’d rather ante up $60000 for solar power, rather than be tracked."

You have to be realistic. Solar power does not work, at ANY cost. Even here in southern Texas, houses with these high cost panels and inverters still have to be connected to the grid. In Illinois, you would be lucky to have enough power to read an iPad at night, consistently. You would likely have to use bottled water to even take a cold bath.

61 posted on 01/25/2013 5:49:23 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: Jonty30

“....and force them to take their property with them. I’d power my home in some other way.”

And that is your only choice. The power company owns and has a legal right to access everything up to and including the power meter. If you interfere with that, you are breaking the law. You can avoid it if you forgo power service, that’s the only way.


62 posted on 01/25/2013 5:51:07 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: rockinqsranch

“All the alleged “Smart Meter” does is send the readings to the power company instead of a meter reader once a month. What is it you think the “Smart Meter” does?”

No, it does more than that.

It is a requirement for the power company to charge you “demand pricing”. It will also be possible for it to determine what you peak demand is - and charge you a differential price for that. It could also facilitate government taxation for not being “green” enough and having too much stuff plugged in.

Ultimately it will be able to communicate with, adjust, and turn on/off appliances in your home.

This will be another way to “tax the rich” if the rich have more stuff plugged in, they’ll pay. If you don’t have the right kind of lightbulbs, if you have too big a fridge, if you like your water hotter than is government approved.

People don’t understand where this is going.

The solution isn’t to stop smart meters. The solution is to tar-and-feather politicians who will take these capabilities and use them to micromanage taxpayers.


63 posted on 01/25/2013 5:56:44 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Mastador1

“Well if you have natural gas and can afford it, you can always go with your own generator and opt out of the system”

Until they install a “smart” gas meter. I’m not kidding.

They’ll be installing a “smart” water meter too.


64 posted on 01/25/2013 5:58:46 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Ellendra

“it’s about who decides what goes on your property, you or them?”

No it isn’t. It’s already decided. It’s their property (the meter) and they have the legal right to access it - which you granted to them by having them install power service.


65 posted on 01/25/2013 6:00:35 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Amendment10

“Quite awhile ago, one anti-smart meter rumor claimed that when meters sent data that they were possibly a radiation hazard”

A rumor that is alive and well......It’s ridiculous, but that doesn’t matter with things like this.


66 posted on 01/25/2013 6:03:28 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: topspinr

They always have known how much electricity you use every month, it’s right there on your bill. The new meters are just easier and quicker for them to read. They don’t have to come into our back yard anymore and take a chance of letting our dogs out to get killed in the street. I am in favor of them for that reason alone.

Threads like this make us look stupid.


67 posted on 01/25/2013 6:08:19 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Ditter

“Threads like this make us look stupid.”

It’s especially enlightening when people point this out before they realize that they are the ones who look stupid.

If you think that information like this will not be ultimately used to tax people for not being “green” enough, then you are stupid, indeed.

If you have detailed electricity usage like this, you can find out an awful lot about someone.


68 posted on 01/25/2013 6:14:13 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer
I don't know where you live sir but I live in Houston and when the temperature is 99 and the humidity is close to that the electric company already knew that everyone’s A/C unit is going full blast. They didn't need a smart meter to figure it out.
69 posted on 01/25/2013 6:24:02 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Pleistarchos

Hmm.
Looks like the Blaze credits Liz Klimas as the author.

You have listed yourself as the author.

Isn’t that odd?


70 posted on 01/25/2013 6:28:34 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: Ditter

“They didn’t need a smart meter to figure it out.”

Well they can still use it to see how “green” you are, even in Houston - and then assign you an appropriate lifestyle tax.

You have to realize how diabolically psychopathic these folks are. If they can get information they will collect it, if they can use the information, they will use it, if you object strongly enough, they will seek to destroy you, especially if you are politically opposed to them (which is information they already have)


71 posted on 01/25/2013 7:43:27 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer

I wonder what would happen if these meters ended up smashed and the homeowners denied doing it.

Would cameras be next installed next?


72 posted on 01/25/2013 8:28:08 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: RFEngineer

I am green in the winter not the summer. Where did you say you lived?


73 posted on 01/25/2013 8:47:21 AM PST by Ditter
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To: RFEngineer

“Ultimately it will be able to communicate with, adjust, and turn on/off appliances in your home.”

There are as I said in another post options available if a person for some insane reason wants to allow the electric company to control their A/C useage in the peak hours of the Summer, but it isn’t in that alleged “Smart Meter”. It is a separate option that can be attached to your A/C. The only relation it has to your “Smart Meter” is that the “Smart Meter” records the electrical consumption/useage, or doesn’t the lack thereof.

Agree with you on the politicians, and that is key.


74 posted on 01/25/2013 8:54:58 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: rockinqsranch

” if a person for some insane reason wants to allow the electric company to control their A/C useage in the peak hours of the Summer, but it isn’t in that alleged “Smart Meter”.”

New appliances will be mandated to interface with the Smartmeter. They’ll sell it as a feature.

That actually IS the direction they are headed.


75 posted on 01/25/2013 1:00:24 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Pleistarchos

The second woman was arrested for videotaping??????????????


76 posted on 01/25/2013 1:07:49 PM PST by MarMema (eh.)
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To: RFEngineer

Only if we are unsuccessful eliminating the U.N. ICLEI, and Agenda 21.


77 posted on 01/25/2013 1:13:51 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Ditter

“I am green in the winter not the summer. Where did you say you lived?”

I mean “green” as in “government approved” green, not as in foliage.


78 posted on 01/25/2013 1:20:06 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer

That is exactly what I meant. If I had meant foliage I would be green in the summer and brown in the winter.


79 posted on 01/25/2013 1:51:18 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Ditter

Well there you have it, I stand corrected.


80 posted on 01/25/2013 2:00:59 PM PST by RFEngineer
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