Posted on 01/28/2013 11:33:35 AM PST by ethical
On January 10, 2013 the Washington State Supreme Court fined Linda Jordan almost $13,000 because she legally challenged Barack Obama's use of forged identity documents: A fake birth certificate and phony Social Security Number.
Jordan wanted the original records to be produced for comparison. Why did Jordan want to see Obama’s real ID?
• The Maricopa County Sheriff Department has presented credible evidence that the birth certificate Barack Obama posted on the White House website on April 27, 2011 was forged. (Maricopa County Sheriff Department 602.876.1801) • Jordan’s own research confirmed that Hawaii law requires signatures on birth certificates to be in permanent ink. The signature of Obama’s mother, on his purported 1961 birth certificate, is partly ink and partly a computer created signature. This compilation means the signature was forged. • Ohio Private Investigator Susan Daniels has confirmed that the Social Security Number Obama is using was previously issued to someone else. SSN’s are NEVER re-issued.
Obama used this fake ID to prove he was eligible to be President. It got him on the ballot and into the White House. This is fraud in the least, treason at worst.
“I filed the lawsuit because I fear for America’s future. A serious crime has been committed right in front of us and federal agents turned a blind eye to it. There is substantial evidence that Barack Obama is using fraudulent identity documents. The court ignored this evidence and sanctioned me with almost $13,000 in fines for exercising my right to request an evidentiary hearing. They labeled my concerns "frivolous". Surely Americans have the right to confirm if Obama used fake ID to gain access to the White House.” Linda Jordan
http://www.obamaforgeries.com
You used to be more honest. Back when you instructed me to Kiss your A$$ [’KMA’, was how you put it], you didn’t jitterbug and dodge all over the place. You had the integrity to admit you said what you said - and meant it.
Now you’re claiming you said it but didn’t say it, or something to that effect. Honesty is always the better policy. Say what you mean and then either stand by it or apologize. But to say the words don’t mean what they mean, and then refuse to reveal what exactly they DO mean...that’s just silly.
Ignore a criminal investigation in progress as if it meant nothing, and then give ME an F.
Wow.
No promise broken there either. JR and Laz do not want pulled into this pathetic grudge.
It helps to know there’s still one. A bright light shining in a very dark place.
Non sequitur.
The moon is a balloon.
There is no “theory” that presidential qualifications can ONLY be examined by Congress. The fifty ballot challenges in 22 states plus DC that were adjudicated during the 2012 election cycle prove that. It isn’t an “either/or” it’s a “both.”
Your specific question was who has the power to enforce the provisions of President-elect qualifying under the 20th Amendment. I say that is Congress but until we have an actual test case, we won’t know for certain.
The judicial branch has always ruled on who is eligible to be on a state’s ballot.
There isn’t any limit on the issues that objectors to the certification of the electors can raise. The last actual objection to certification of the electoral vote by members of Congress was submitted by Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs Jones of Ohio and Senator Barbara Boxer of California who objected to the certification of George W, Bush’s Ohio electors in January of 2005 on the grounds that the electors were not “regularly given” due to problems with long lines at voting stations and prospective voters leaving without voting. The Tubbs Jones-Boxer objection also referenced the on-going lawsuits challenging the accuracy of the vote count in Ohio which is analogous to the current on-going lawsuits challenging whether Barack Obama has qualified as a natural born citizen.
This judge and Supreme Court in Washington refused to do anything that their state law required in response to Linda Jordan’s affidavit, because they claimed that multiple court cases had ruled that eligibility can only be considered by CONGRESS. It is not justiciable at the state level, they claim.
That’s why a bunch of us are saying these rulings stink.
My comment was about 2012 BALLOT CHALLENGES to Obama’s eligibility that were heard and ruled on 50 times in 22 states.
The first reason that the original jurisdiction trial judge in Washington gave for dismissing the lawsuit of Ms. Jordan was that his reading of Washington law was that Barack Obama must be named as a defendant as an “indispensable party” and he wasn’t named.
The statute says straight-out that the JUDGE must order the person accused in the affidavit to right the wrong. That places the burden of responsibility on the JUDGE.
All the public is supposed to do is report the crime, and then the system itself is supposed to make sure that the problem is fixed. Instead, the system made sure the person who reported it was punished (and a former WA Supreme Court justice agrees with me that the fine she received was punitive and just plain wrong).
And why did the challenge fail in Georgia (where Malihi ordered both Obama and his lawyer to appear because they had the burden to prove that Obama is eligible, but they didn’t even show up and yet the judge called Obama eligible and refused to certify the proceedings so contempt of court charges could be filed)?
Why did it fail in Florida, where the judge said Obama’s acted like President for 4 years so evidence shouldn’t matter any more?
Stuff like this is why it is apparent to a bunch of us that the judiciary is rigged. You said it yourself, that there were 22 states where ballot challenges were ruled on 50 times - and yet Obama has NEVER had to present even the same documentation that my sons had to present in order to detassel corn, even though there is a criminal investigation in process for forgery and fraud involving Obama’s claimed birth certificate and the HI registrar has confirmed that the White House image is a forgery and the real BC in their files is legally non-valid.
What are the odds that somebody who is known to have presented in public a forged document that law enforcement is trying to track down who created it, AND whose genuine BC is known to be non-valid ... would be ruled eligible to be on the ballot FIFTY TIMES without showing even what is required for a detasseler? 50/50, the courts have gotten wrong on these challenges - certifiably wrong, because the HI registrar has confirmed that there are no legally-established birth facts for Obama from Hawaii records.
What are the odds that courts all over the country would certifiably get 50/50 cases wrong, if there was not some other factor at work?
You said:
“There isn’t any limit on the issues that objectors to the certification of the electors can raise. “
Then this is but ANOTHER double standard used to play both ends against the middle. We’ve been told by Secretaries of State that unless the law REQUIRES them to see a birth certificate (for instance), then they CAN’T. Yet here the statute tells Congress what it can challenge electoral votes on and nobody is saying, “Unless we’re required to challenge electoral votes if there is an official complaint about irregularities, our hands are tied. We just can’t do anything about it because the law doesn’t specifically order us to do that...”
Double standard. It just shows AGAIN that the arguments being made to excuse the 2008 coup would be laughed out of existence if they were applied to any other legal case.
IOW, for some reason this particular case is different.
And THAT is a problem.
Ret. Col Lawrence Sellin says a Republican primary candidate explained why this case is different: It goes WAY too deep for anybody to be willing to dig into it. IOW, there is treachery bigger than anybody wants to have to deal with.
But we will deal with it. If it’s that big and deep it’s not going to just go away. They have to know that. It’s just that it’ll have to be dealt with by the 2nd Amendment rather than in legitimate courts of law. When you close the pressure release valve of a pressure canner, you are choosing to have an explosion. These people have to know that, and I hope they are losing lots of sleep over it.
The language of the statute is broad enough so that just about ANY written objection can fit under it. All you have to do is frame it right. It is the prerogative of the chair (The President of the Senate) to accept or reject an objection.
I believe that all “Obama is ineligible” energy should be channeled as one voice into advocacy for the appointment of an Independent Counsel to investigate criminal rather than civil wrongdoing. Every alleged scandal involving the American Presidency going back to the administration of US Grant was dealt with by a grand jury.
Guess who made the recommendation that led to the appointment of Judge Ken Starr as Whitewater Independent Counsel? Why it was Attorney General Janet Reno. Guess who was the Deputy Attorney General under Janet Reno who recommended to her allowing Judge Starr to expand his Whitewater/Paula Jones investigation to Monica Lewinsky which led to a Bill of Impeachment? Why it was Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder.
A whole lot can happen on the criminal side of the justice system that can’t happen on the civil side and thus far, every action by those in the “Obama is ineligible” movement has been civil not criminal. Oh there have been plenty of allegations of criminality, but no pursuit of criminal investigations by an Independent Counsel.
Bravo! On this we can agree. The only trouble, though, is that we already know from the R primary candidate (that Sellin overheard), AND from what we’ve observed even in the political sphere,that DC is afraid to pursue this because they know it goes way too deep. The only law enforcement we have left is local and state. And HI doesn’t have to honor other states’ search warrants or subpoenas.
Basically we’re at a point where the pressure release valve has been sealed shut on this pressure cooker. Obama is counting on an explosion. Unless something totally unexpected occurs, that shakes up DC so that it fears inaction more than the treachery they know lurks beneath Obama’s ineligibility problem, the most we can do is help the public know what to expect and be prepared as best they can.
When DC is scared to the point that they are ready to listen, Zullo and others will be ready with the evidence needed for DC to blow this wide open. But until the critters fear the people more than they fear the mafia that installed Obama, they won’t do anything and the pressure will build to an explosion that America may not survive.
Those players (Reno and Holder) sidetracked us all. Congress had done 2 studies on far more serious crimes by the Clinton regime and Reno made sure those serious things were never investigated. Instead the conservative furor was channeled into subjects that could more easily be poo-poohed by the public as insignificant to the public good.
For instance, the public would not have said that it was only about (tee hee) sex, if the subject had been the Clinton regime selling our satellite technology to China. That treason is what has put China in a position to put a satellite in orbit with the potential of scrambling and screwing up our GPS-guided precision weapons. Etc.
Our enemies are willing to allow a little bit of conservative schadenfreude if it serves as a distraction while they go after America’s jugular. Right now I can’t even stand to listen to Rush or the others, because it’s all a sideshow, a distraction to keep us looking the other direction while the crooks walk out with the Hope diamond. Until somebody says it loud and clear - 2008 was a coup by the communist-Islamist alliance and they are plundering our entire system as we speak!!! - America will eat the popcorn and be entertained by the politics even as she is being stabbed in the back to her death.
The same thing happened with the 2012 election. They put on a good show of Romney going to win it, knowing full well that the people who count the votes are all who matter, and early on it was noted that the polls were close enough that if the D’s focused on just a few critical cities or counties, they could take it. By “focused” I mean bought off election judges, vote tabulation companies (such as the one associated with Chuck Hagel, if I’m understanding correctly...), etc... I wonder if Hagel was willing to endorse Bob Kerry against Deb Fischer and do a little vote-tabulation rigging in exchange for a sweet deal that included being Secretary of Defense...
Way too familiar.
Wow. Thanks for alerting me to that.
This sounds a lot like what I’ve been saying. And previous claims by Hagmann regarding the media being threatened have been checked by Mike Zullo of the Cold Case Posse, and the reality of those threats has been confirmed. So Hagmann was found truthful on that.
Notice the inclusion of the “birther sites” as one of the categories to be targeted. If they were just using the eligibility issue to string people along, they would not target these sites like that.
The more I see of the way they are making Obama into a “God”, the more it looks to me like he is Nikolai Carpathia, from the “Left Behind” series of movies. The boastful little horn.
The timing of when this training took place would be interesting to look at. We’ve got several people on this very thread which joined here on Jan 1, 2013. The only issue they post on is the eligibility issue. I wonder when the training sessions were.
Wanna bet that Free Republic has been designated as a “birther” site? I came here because it was one of the only places where people would actually engage with the evidence. I had been at Hot Air and was absolutely disgusted by Morissey and Allahpundit’s treatment of the issue. Same thing with Ace of Spades.
If anybody is reading this and needs encouragement to donate to keep Free Republic going, just realize that if I didn’t have Free Republic there would have been nowhere for me to go with any of my research, where it could get out to substantial numbers of people. And the same thing is true of others - like you, Fred - and the issues that they research. The media has been threatened; George Soros is the puppet-master. And that includes “conservative” media as well. Places like Free Republic are the last places of resistance left.
I’ve been totally convinced for some time now that the entire make-up and tone of many of the contributors and their comments on FR has changed. I’ve been around since 2003, I cut my teeth on several of the long threads that went to 10,000 or more comments.
I’ve forgotten more than a large number of the current batch of ‘freepers’ whose join-up dates are mostly more than six years after mine -
Who know everything, and repeatledly, relentlessly, unashamedly target any contributor who asks the obvious questions:
Who is he?
Where did he come from?
Who were his parents?
Where was he born?
When was he born?
These are the five cardinal sin/questions one is NOT allowed to ask - although it’s as plain as the proverbial nose on your face no one knows the answer. The put downs and attacks just become more and more professional. More lawyer-talk, more twisting issues into pretzels. (Until one is tempted to throw their hands into the air and walk away, which is of course what they are after!)
It’s almost as if the threads we are on are linked directly into the office of zero’s lawyer, we are now their personal playthings. There are three or four so-called ‘freepers’ who have been tailing every comment I make for at least TWO YEARS.
Thanks for reminding me...it is time to DONATE. We cannot allow them to destroy the only avenue we have.
The reason that an Independent Counsel is appointed is so that they can operate INDEPENDENTLY.
Nixon wasn’t even indicted but the indictments of his top aides and the attendant publicity was so bad that he was forced to resign.
An independent distraction is still a distraction.
On the jugular, Congress will never allow an investigation - unless they are more afraid of letting things play out than they are of intervening.
That’s why it is critical that Congress become aware that 2008 was a communist-Islamist coup to install a puppet who would systematically destroy this country. If you know the cancer is malignant you know the choice is removal of the cancer or death.
At this point, all other talk is basically distraction.
Placemark,
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