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Europol Report: 680 Soccer Games Suspected Of Match-Fixing
forbes.com ^ | 2/04/2013 | Chris Smith

Posted on 02/04/2013 10:56:36 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper

Soccer’s American detractors have accused the sport of being too slow, too low-scoring and too full of diving players. They can now add corruption to the list.

Europol, the European Union’s law enforcement agency, released today the upsetting findings of a match-fixing investigation that began last summer. The probe found 680 suspicious soccer matches, including qualifiers for the World Cup and European Championship, as well as two Champions League games. The report indicates that 380 of the suspected matches were played in Europe.

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1 posted on 02/04/2013 10:56:43 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Maybe I’m over cynical, but I just assume all professional sports matches are rigged.


2 posted on 02/04/2013 11:00:31 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper; Revolting cat!
No wonder Euroweenies want to see the USA enter the game of World Soccer.

They rig the results and laff at the "loser" Americans.

3 posted on 02/04/2013 11:01:00 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: cuban leaf
Maybe I’m over cynical, but I just assume all professional sports matches are rigged.

The contracting and design of the stadiums (funded by taxpayers) certainly are.

4 posted on 02/04/2013 11:04:02 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

How do you throw that many games were most of the scores are 1-0 or 0-0 ties, short of self-goals?


5 posted on 02/04/2013 11:05:02 AM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The only difference between athletics and politics is at least the athletes have some talent.

However, both are corrupt beyond recognition and anyone of believes either group is naive beyond description.


6 posted on 02/04/2013 11:06:02 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I still can’t figure out how soccer is such a popular sport . . . 90 minutes of continual loss of possessions (if this happened in football, no one would watch), and every so often, some lucky guy in some position in some place on the field has the dumb luck of kicking the ball past a skinny player in front of a 50 foot wide goal and scores, at which time 65,000 fans go nuts and the guy who scored the half-assed goal runs around the field like he won the Super Bowl. And, if you’re lucky, after 90 minutes, the score might be 1 to 0 (excuse me . . ) 1 to nil.

1 to nil or 3 to 2 after 90 minutes and everyone is singing and chanting and swaying and acting like fools.

Good God-Almighty, what the hell’s the attraction? If they’re ginning up the game to . . . say . . . 4 to nil . . . then may God bless ‘em.

I don’t get it. They say the reason there’s so many people playing soccer is so that they don’t have to watch it.


7 posted on 02/04/2013 11:06:42 AM PST by laweeks
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To: a fool in paradise; cuban leaf
Maybe I’m over cynical, but I just assume all professional sports matches are rigged.

Especially when the same la Familia is involved on both sides of the field as last night.

8 posted on 02/04/2013 11:07:09 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Dog bites man.

It’s European - of course it’s corrupt.


9 posted on 02/04/2013 11:07:48 AM PST by glorgau
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To: Da Coyote

Ok, so I’m have spazmo typing attacks.

Let’s try that second sentence again.

However, both are corrupt beyond recognition and anyone who believes either group is naive beyond description.

(P.S. I’ve got free pictures of the Obamadork skeet shooting for believers.)


10 posted on 02/04/2013 11:08:34 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: kosciusko51

I’m actually a fan (of soccer, not the match-fixing!), but, unfortunately, I would think the generally low scoring nature of the game would make it easier (and more vulnerable) to be “fixed” - by a player, referee, or both.


11 posted on 02/04/2013 11:09:37 AM PST by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: laweeks

And we cant understand why baseball and gridiron are so popular with Americans. To us, they are boring sports that take half a day to complete and stop all the time. And the latter is a poor man’s rugby.


12 posted on 02/04/2013 11:11:02 AM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

shame, it’s going to be interesting to see what the punishment is going to be. If the world cup is affected


13 posted on 02/04/2013 11:11:28 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: glorgau

Pete Rose a Euro was he?.


14 posted on 02/04/2013 11:12:08 AM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I was talking about the fix being in for Super Bowl, and referencing Lucy Van Pelt’s comment about things being run by a big Eastern syndicate. Everyone looked at me like I was crazy! But you know, that is a LOT of money changing hands on Super Bowl Sunday. You can’t tell me they don’t at least try to influence the game.


15 posted on 02/04/2013 11:15:07 AM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
A Singapore-based crime syndicate is alleged to be behind much of the illegal bribery, and the criminal network is reported to have spent as much as $136,500 per fixed match.

...wonder if it had damaged the football pool in the UK? I used to play the pool when I was stationed there

16 posted on 02/04/2013 11:17:10 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: laweeks

What a load of drivel.

Soccer is a game of skill, like any sport. Its top players are brilliantly talented athletes with incredible skill.

Its not 90 mins of tedium (sometimes it is, just like any other sport), at its best it is a great game of pace and skill. Goals are created by moments of great skill, not lucky randomness. BTW, who told you the goals are 50ft wide?.

And the fans sing and dance just like any other sports fans, because they follow their team with passion and pride and love.

Soccer can be boring, but it can also be a great game of falir, skill, excitement and passion.

Oh, and congrats to the Ravens of being ‘World Champions’ (snigger snigger). There’s another thing that makes us Limeys/Euros laugh: the insistence on your teams being ‘World Champs’ when you play in national leagues and only you play the game. Do you grasp just how ludicrous/arrogant that sounds to us?.

Dont you grasp just how dull and boring we find baseball, gridiron or does the fact that your sports might be equally as tedious to others never enter American heads?.......


17 posted on 02/04/2013 11:22:30 AM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman

I would like to see rugby take off in the US. It’s a great game, and they know how to tackle without all of the padding.

I think it is an uphill battle for that to happen due to the continuous action, which does not allow for much commercial time (which is why the popular US sports thrive, as the commercials pay the bills).


18 posted on 02/04/2013 11:23:15 AM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: the scotsman
Soccer is a game of skill, like any sport. Its top players are brilliantly talented athletes with incredible skill.

Sorry, but I can't imagine a dumber and more boring sport than soccer . . . as far as looking for skill, just love watching the "skilled" play stand right in front of the net and then kicking the ball way the hell over the net into the stands.

Can't imagine what a coach does except send in and take out players. What possible plays could a coach go over with a bunch of people that are all over the field giving up possession 80 to 100 times a game?

They can bounce the ball all over their heads and then drop it to the foot and then kick it back up to their head all day, but none of that "skill" is asked for in the game. Just dumb luck with an occasional lucky kick into a horribly wide goal. And even then, it'll probably go over the net and into the stands. Just my opinion.

19 posted on 02/04/2013 11:31:51 AM PST by laweeks
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To: the scotsman
BTW, who told you the goals are 50ft wide?.

Are they wider? (sarc-)

20 posted on 02/04/2013 11:33:57 AM PST by laweeks
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To: laweeks

I can. Baseball, gridiron.....

Soccer is played at speed. Players misplace passes, and they miss goal chances. Just as gridiron players throw interceptions or drop passes in the endzone.

A soccer coach trains his players in ballskills and tactics during the week and discussed tactics, on gameday, the players by definition make or break the game by their own onfield decisions. A coach will change formations, tell players to change things onfield (drop back, get closer to an opponent, get wider etc etc), make substitutions, BUT they dont have the ability per play to stop and change things as an NFL/MLB coach does, because soccer is a continuous game.

If you think soccer is a game just of dumb luck, you are the ignorant one, not me.


21 posted on 02/04/2013 11:42:06 AM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: laweeks

‘Sorry, but I can’t imagine a dumber and more boring sport than soccer . . .’

Gridiron: a sport where some of the players are so fat that any other sport would laugh at them being ‘professional athletes’. Where players can play for an entire career and never touch the ball. Where 60m of game takes 3-4 hrs. With built in stops for TV. ‘Toughguys’ padded up to the max. Who need oxygen every time they hit the sideline.

Baseball: need I say more?. Makes cricket look exciting. Based on a game played by little English girls in the 17th/18th centuries. And its players are either steroid freaks or podgy. A sport whose greatest player was a fat man. Another a racist. Another a gambling cheat. A sport ‘so American’ it was actually invented by the English and whose greatest hit in 1951 was by a Scotsman.


22 posted on 02/04/2013 11:50:03 AM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman
Trust me, don't waste your breath (so to speak) with the anti-soccer knuckleheads. Much like liberalism, "anti-soccerism" is all about "feelings" and "emotion". It can't be reasonably argued with.

(Although generally I've found a good way to shut them up is to ask them for a list of any/all sports they've actually had the stones to compete in, especially at a high level....nothing but crickets after that most of the time.)

23 posted on 02/04/2013 11:52:39 AM PST by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: laweeks
Sorry, but I can't imagine a dumber and more boring sport than soccer

Sorry, but I can't imagine a dumber and more boring and ignorant statement than the above. Luv that homoerotic Armpitball, don't we?

24 posted on 02/04/2013 11:55:42 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: the scotsman

Yeah, I can’t much disagree . . . baseball, a game that can go on for 15 innings with a 1-0 score can be very nerveracking . . . and football, with big fat slobs on the line making millions . . . but you gotta admit . . . without the NFL, most of the players, like Lewis, would be in prison. So, American sports are keeping our prison population down.


25 posted on 02/04/2013 11:57:53 AM PST by laweeks
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To: safeasthebanks

It’s chauvinism and false patriotism. Note how the completely commercialized championship games of both baseball and American “football” are called “World Championships”, with teams of a single country playing, and in one sport played in a single country on the planet, and the other in a handful of cultural colonies of the US. Chauvinism, false patriotism and envy.


26 posted on 02/04/2013 12:01:43 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!

IMHO, the only real manly sports are rugby and Australian Rules Football . . . smash mouth at its best . . . hardly any padding, shorts, T-shirts . . . bone snapping at its best . . . but hardly shown here in the U.S.A.

Really miss Australian Rules Football.


27 posted on 02/04/2013 12:03:21 PM PST by laweeks
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To: laweeks

Here’s the twist:

I LIKE GRIDIRON!. I am an NFL fan of 31 years and I love the CFL, Arena etc. I was just winding you up a bit. Saying as you were bashing soccer. I thought I’d bash gridiron a bit.

I DO hate baseball though. I am OK with basketball and I like ice hockey.


28 posted on 02/04/2013 12:03:34 PM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: laweeks

Yep!


29 posted on 02/04/2013 12:04:59 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: laweeks
I still can’t figure out how soccer is such a popular sport

Because it's about more than sports, especially in Europe.

There, you have rivalries between cities, towns and countries that have gone on for hundreds of years before we became independent.

The great rivalries of the world have social and political undertones as well. Rangers/Celtic (Glasgow) has its roots in The Troubles. Manchester United/Liverpool goes back to the War of the Roses. Real Madrid/Barcelona is Franco versus Basque separatism played on a field. That means something to people over there.

It's got nothing to do with how many goals are scored, though some people do like games where scoring actually means something because it's very difficult to do. It has everything to do with history, tradition, politics and in some cases, religion.

30 posted on 02/04/2013 12:11:41 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: the scotsman

I may be anti-Globalist, but I like soccer.

My nephew plays soccer for his private, Christian, home-school themed high school. Yes, quite a few Social Conservative Americans follow and participate in soccer.

Now....not sure if it’s because my great-granpa was born in Barrhead (just south of Glasgow)....but our family likes soccer.


31 posted on 02/04/2013 12:12:51 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: Revolting cat!
Yep, especially the false patriotism part (though I really haven't seen that quite so much on this thread).

FWIW, I'm actually a fan of baseball and gridiron - and really just about any competition that requires great skill/athleticism. (Ravens season ticket owner - price no doubt about to go up!)

32 posted on 02/04/2013 12:13:56 PM PST by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: the scotsman
I am an NFL fan of 31 years and I love the CFL, Arena etc.

The nice thing about the CFL and Arena is that they're not millionaires acting like thugs . . . they're closer to the fans social status than the NFL thugs.

33 posted on 02/04/2013 12:17:26 PM PST by laweeks
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To: laweeks

well, you should just leave it at “I don’t get it”. Your characterizations are off, every sport can be perceived this way. Baseball? ...I can’t stand it, yet the fans just tell me all of it’s nuances make it great, funny too....many are the same people that don’t like soccer.

I think the problem is that you don’t appreciate many aspects, probably because you never played (seriously at least). The game is very difficult, try making an accurate pass over 50 yards to somebody in-stride. There are many things the fans are appreciating during the game, not just goals. ...also, in what major sport do players not celebrate “like they won the superbowl”? Football players act like they did something special each time they just do their job!!! ...if you check out soccer highlight shows (English Premier League for example), you’ll see plenty of incredibly skillful goals, certainly not “half-assed”.


34 posted on 02/04/2013 12:22:19 PM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: laweeks

Let’s break down the scoring in American Football to only 1 point per touchdown. Let’s look at the scores for the World Champion Ravens this last season:

vs. CIN 5 - 1 Win
vs. PHL 2 - 3 Loss
vs. NE 4 - 3 Win
vs. CLE 3 - 1 Win
vs. KC 0 - 0 Tie
vs. DAL 4 - 3 Win
vs. HOU 1 - 5 Loss
vs. CLE 3 - 0 Win
vs. OAK 7 - 2 Win
vs. PIT 1 - 1 Tie
vs. SD 1 - 1 Tie
vs. PIT 2 - 2 Tie
vs. WAS 4 - 3 Win
vs. DEN 2 - 4 Loss
vs. NYG 3 - 2 Win
vs. CIN 2 - 2 Tie

That would have resulted in the Ravens having an 8-3-5 record. Not a lot of high scoring games there either.

Maybe if soccer had different points for each type of goal? Like 5 points for an open field goal, 4 points for a goal off a corner kick and 2 points for a penalty kick? Would that help? Then you could see things like “Manchester beats Arsenal 10 to 0” instead of 2 to 0. Would the extra points really help?

Or have you not actually taken time to watch the game? Remember, only 3 substitutions for the whole game. Of the 11 players who take the field, at least 8 have to be running for the entire 45 minutes half. No timeouts, no clock stoppage, and if a player commits 2 fouls in a game that the ref considers significant enough, he gets ejected and cannot play in the next game as well. A single very serious offense can result in the same penalty.

Honestly, though, the rest of the world should be glad most Americans think like you do about soccer. If we ever became serious about it, we would dominate.


35 posted on 02/04/2013 2:59:00 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
Or have you not actually taken time to watch the game?

Actually, I went to an Arsenal Game home game in London in September. Fascinating. No beer allowed in the stands. Actually, no vendors anywhere in the stadium aisles. Couldn't quite figure out what they were singing and chanting, but the Chelsea fans were blocked off in a pie wedge surrounded by cops (bobbies), one at the end of each row. It was fascinating though to listen to the fans. Almost everyone stayed in their seats the whole game rather than roaming around like they do here in the states.

But Arsenal lost 2-1. So, whenever they're on TV I try to "dvr" them. It's boring as hell, but I can always say I was there.

36 posted on 02/04/2013 3:10:58 PM PST by laweeks
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To: the scotsman
And the latter is a poor man’s rugby.

There's not a rugby team in the world that could put on pads and compete in the NFL.

Two totally different games with the NFL being the most violent and exciting to watch.......

37 posted on 02/04/2013 3:24:19 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: Hot Tabasco

And there’s not an NFL team that could take theirs off and compete in the top rugby leagues (Aviva English Premiership, Celtic League, Super 15). Rugby union or rugby league.

Totally different?. Gridiron does have its roots in rugby at least.

Most violent?. I assume you dont actually watch any rugby. If you did, you’d know they are both brutal sports and rugby (either code) gives up nothing in violence to the NFL/CFL. In fact, outside North America, its seen as the more brutal and violent of the two.

Rugby (union) is a great game to watch. League not so much imo.


38 posted on 02/04/2013 3:49:08 PM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman

Why is it then that America has a soccor team that plays internationally, but no other country has a Football, Baseball or Basketball team to play against ours? In other words, how can it be offensive to call it the World Series when no other countries are willing or able to field a team?


39 posted on 02/04/2013 4:32:38 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: All

Tomorrow (Wednesday)!!!

INTERNATIONAL FOOTBALL FRIENDLIES

11:20 – Japan vs. Latvia
12:30 – Myanmar vs. Philippines
15:00 – Azerbaijan vs. Liechtenstein
15:00 – Korea Republic vs. Croatia
16:00 – Moldova vs. Kazakhstan
17:00 – Hungary vs. Belarus
18:00 – Norway vs. Ukraine
18:00 – Slovenia vs. Bosnia Herzegovina
18:00 – Cyprus vs. Serbia
19:00 – Albania vs. Georgia
19:00 – Spain vs. Uruguay
19:00 – Israel vs. Finland
19:15 – Turkey vs. Czech Republic
19:30 – Malta vs. Northern Ireland
19:30 – FYR Macedonia vs. Denmark
20:00 – Romania vs. Australia
20:00 – Nepal vs. Pakistan
20:00 – India vs. Palestine
20:00 – Kenya vs. Libia
20:00 – Tanzania vs. Cameroon
20:30 – England vs. Brazil
20:30 – Iceland vs. Russia
20:30 – Netherlands vs. Italy
20:30 – Sweden vs. Argentina
20:30 – Greece vs. Switzerland
20:45 – Belgium vs. Slovakia
20:45 – Wales vs. Austria
20:45 – Scotland vs. Estonia
20:45 – Ireland vs. Poland
21:00 – France vs. Germany
21:30 – Paraguay vs. El Salvador
21:45 – Portugal vs. Ecuador
22:00 – Chile vs. Egypt


40 posted on 02/05/2013 3:14:52 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (If you want to ring the bell - you have to swing the hammer hard!)
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To: a fool in paradise

Have you paid any attention to NBA officiating?


41 posted on 02/05/2013 3:18:12 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Amberdawn

It is simply ridiculous to call yourself World Champions when nobody else plays the sport professionally!. Nobody else plays American Football professionally, all other leagues of it around the world are amateur. And even if those other teams were professional, you still dont play them!.

How can the NFL/MLB/NBA winners be ‘world champions’ when almost nobody else plays the game, nobody else plays it professionally, and all said leagues are NATIONAL leagues. NATIONAL basketball, NATIONAL football. The MLB has one Canadian team. The NHL has a couple of Canuck teams at best.

Even then, its silly for the champs of those two leagues to call themselves World Champions.

In other sports, such as soccer, there IS a World Club Championship, which decides the best club team each year.

And of course there are international country v country World Cups in soccer, rugby (although no world club rugby championship, although that has been mooted) and other sports. SO in those sports, you CAN say that such and such team is the best. Because they have had to actually prove it on the field of play. To be truly world champs, you have to defeat the rest of the world. The clue is in the title!.

Calling the SB/WS/NBA winners World Champions is as pointless as the winners of Irish Gaelic Hurling or Scottish shinty calling themselves World Champs. Or Hungarian Winter Dwarf Tossing.

NO other country which has sports that are contested within only their own borders indulges in this World Champs nonsense. Canada has its own game of gridiron. But do the Grey Cup winners call themselves World Champs?. No they do not.

So it is silly at best and arrogant at worst. It is seen as American boasting and/or ignorance of the world.

Simply, you cannot call yourself World Champions if only you play it.


42 posted on 02/05/2013 9:45:39 AM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman

Thank you for proving my point. There are no professional teams of MLB/NFL/NBA in existence in the world. Why not? If enough teams would form, I’m sure the American owners would agree to make even more money by playing against them. We have owners who spent the cash building an American soccer team, so where are the ‘foreign’ baseball, basketball and football teams?


43 posted on 02/05/2013 4:54:43 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: Amberdawn

There ARE professional teams and leagues of baseball (japan, cuba etc) and basketball (many European leagues).

I get the impression most Americans are not aware there are prof. leagues of those sports outside the US (despite US players playing in Europe during the last NBA lockout). The Euro basketball leagues esp are of a high quality.

(There were other prof gridiron leagues as well. NFL Europe, the WFAL)

The NBA/MLB refuses to play them though, yet its winners will insist on world champs status. Its a halfway street, Amber, the US leagues have to show willingness to play outside the US. And what if they lose?. No, much easier to stay in the US, ignore the world and call yourself a world champ without actually playing the world.

If Americans want to play only themselves, thats fine. Its the insistence on calling the Superbowl or World Series winners ‘world champs’, when you dont play anyone outside the US, that rankles. Silly at best, unflatteringly arrogant/ignorant at worst.

Do as the Canadians do: play just your own game, but just call yourself a national champion when you win.


44 posted on 02/05/2013 5:34:15 PM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman

I am aware of professional teams in those categories outside the U.S. My point is that they are free to form/petition to play against American teams. Why this hasn’t happened could be costs associated with traveling to far flung countries, who knows? I’m not a fan of soccer, basketball or football, so how they refer to their championships is of no interest to me.


45 posted on 02/05/2013 5:57:56 PM PST by Amberdawn
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