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To: BuckeyeTexan
The information you post is a bit off topic.

I suggest you look, instead, at the US State Department application for a Passport. The instructions list the various ways that one may claim citizenship, and those requirements for Citizenship at Birth have changed over the years.

For instance, the laws concerning Birth by One US Parent will require residency in the US, for a certain period of time after reaching the age of majority.

All “Natural Born Citizen” means is that you became a Citizen at the moment of birth, based on the laws in effect at the time of your birth. NOTHING ELSE.

358 posted on 03/09/2013 11:52:57 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

How can a legal American mother have a child who is not an American citizen? C’mon Gang, she can’t. As for Rubio, who had parents awaiting citizenship, he was BORN here to parents who were here legally, citizens in waiting. Both are eligible. I am glad that I have the Great One, Mark Levin, on my side.
If Chris Christie or Jeb Bush had the same birth circumstances, neither FOX nor Ann Coulter would be waving the ineligibility flag. Now Jeb Bush, THERE is a guy, like his brother, who seems to yearn to be President of Mexico. There are plenty of natural born Americans, like Jeb, with dual loyalties. Bob


368 posted on 03/09/2013 12:04:10 PM PST by alstewartfan ("You looked like a still From Cecil B DeMille When I saw you Waiting at my door." Al Stewart)
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To: Kansas58

Respectfully, claiming citizenship via passport application is irrelevant to one’s eligibility for the presidency, which is the thread topic.

With regard to being eligible for the presidency, the State Department stipulates that being a natural born citizen by statute does not necessarily make one eligible for the presidency. We don’t have a definitive ruling to go by.

As you know, there are only two classes of citizenship: citizen at birth and naturalized citizen. However, being included in the former is not an automatic guarantee of eligibility for the presidency. Some who are granted citizenship at birth have retention requirements placed upon their citizenship. Those born on U.S. soil have no such conditions placed upon their citizenship status.

So there is legal precedent demonstrating that all “citizens at birth” do not share the same status.


389 posted on 03/09/2013 12:22:36 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Kansas58
All “Natural Born Citizen” means is that you became a Citizen at the moment of birth, based on the laws in effect at the time of your birth. NOTHING ELSE.

And if Kansas58 knew what the f*** he was talking about, he could explain why Aldo Mario Bellei was born a citizen of the United States, yet had his citizenship stripped away because he didn't live here.

Obviously a natural born citizen couldn't have his citizenship stripped away for failing to live here, so it pretty much demonstrates that being born a citizen is not the same thing as being a "natural born citizen."

503 posted on 03/09/2013 2:56:06 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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