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Dzokhar Tsarnaev - Read Him His Rights
Political Realities ^ | 04/21/13 | Charles M. Phipps

Posted on 04/21/2013 3:55:32 AM PDT by LD Jackson

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1 posted on 04/21/2013 3:55:32 AM PDT by LD Jackson
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To: LD Jackson

What he said.


2 posted on 04/21/2013 4:03:30 AM PDT by abb
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To: LD Jackson
It doesn't appear he was working at the behest of any foreign government or terror organization.

He was most assuredly working at the behest of Islam.

3 posted on 04/21/2013 4:05:01 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: LD Jackson

Here’s the funny thing which always confuses me:

Dude has the rights anyway. What’s the big deal about reading them to him?

This is a complete distraction!

Whether they read to him the constitution or not is irrelevant!


4 posted on 04/21/2013 4:11:34 AM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: LD Jackson

Also another thing worth noting...

In the media reports they said he ‘negotiated’ with the FBI for 20 minutes before he gave up.

Kid can’t be that stupid. He must have had the president on the phone and done a deal.

It’ll be interesting to see what happens.


5 posted on 04/21/2013 4:14:23 AM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: LD Jackson
Miranda rights was a legal invention. It merely reiterates the constitution.

If this guy talks with or without and we can't use the info against him...so what...we have all other kinds of evidence. It's not like he's going to be released anytime soon.

And all he has to say is "I want an attorney"....and the exception is gone....

6 posted on 04/21/2013 4:16:29 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: JohnPDuncan
Dude has the rights anyway. What’s the big deal about reading them to him?

Correct. He has the rights either way.

The legal system presumes everyone is an idiot and dictates that you must be made aware of your rights before anything you say can be used against you. Well, we already have enough evidence to put him to death, we don't need to use anything he says to prosecute him.

What encouragement is there for him to talk? Well, I wouldn't pull back from the death penalty.

7 posted on 04/21/2013 4:17:31 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: LD Jackson

The reading to him of his rights IS NOT ITSELF in the Constitution.

As a citizen, he should already know his rights and he can exercise them if he wishes.

The Constitution does not give the state the responsibility of educating a citizen of all their individual rights, so Miranda is a mistake. Miranda assumes that it is a state responsibility to educate the citizen.

The Constitution assumes some people will be dumb and stupid. Always has been the case, always will be.

If the state is responsible for educating a citizen of his/her rights, where does it end? Shouldn’t then the whole Bill of Rights - or the whole constitution be read to them?

Your reasoning is neither sound nor logical.

Especially since you are stating that he indeed might be working for a foreign state or group......at which point he is a treasonous citizen...


8 posted on 04/21/2013 4:19:21 AM PDT by Arlis (.)
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To: The_Victor
This Russian is not a Russian as the media says, but a Chechen, a Muslim

Islam is evil beyond anything you can imagine:

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

http://www.faithfreedom.org/

http://www.gendercide.org/case_armenia.html

9 posted on 04/21/2013 4:19:31 AM PDT by Democrat_media (s tMary Landrieu voted for the UN to take away our 2nd amendment rights)
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To: JohnPDuncan

I disagree that it is irrelevant whether they read him his rights or not. It is a basic principle that guides law enforcement in their treatment of citizens that are arrested. Like it or not, Dzokhar Tsarnaev is a citizen of the United States. If he is not read his rights and is denied access to a lawyer, where does that leave you or me, as conservatives who have been declared a threat by the Obama administration, if hey decide we should be arrested? What if they decide we are a public safety danger and refuse to give us access to the rights that are guaranteed by the Constitution? That’s a slope I would rather stay away from.


10 posted on 04/21/2013 4:20:16 AM PDT by LD Jackson
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To: SampleMan

The reading of the rights are a distraction.

I would prefer the ACLU to explain to its members why he’s being charged under Federal law rather than MA law.

In my OPINION he should be done under MA law.

Now liberals have to wake up and realize they can seek the death penalty in a state that forbids it and is against it.

Talk about hypocrisy of the highest order.


11 posted on 04/21/2013 4:20:20 AM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: LD Jackson
He's an enemy combatant regardless if he acted on behalf of any country or not so he's not entitled to the same rights as an ordinary citizen is.

He may have done the deed of an adult but he's still a naieve 19 year old punk who's going to sing like a bird once he can start talking coherently......

12 posted on 04/21/2013 4:24:12 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: LD Jackson

The reading of the rights are just a policy that the goons follow when they arrest you.

It’s not really a big thing.

If he’s educated he knows what rights he has.

I could care less about the goon squad and their policies of whether they’re going to read rights or not.

Far more important to me as a suspect is whether they assert I can charged under Federal law (most of which is unconstitutional) or State law (most of which is fine)


13 posted on 04/21/2013 4:24:42 AM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: JohnPDuncan
Dude has the rights anyway. What’s the big deal about reading them to him?

Because the Supreme Court said so - Miranda v. Arizona (384 US 486).

14 posted on 04/21/2013 4:28:51 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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What concerns me is: will the public safety exception hold up in court? This Justice Department is not filled with the best and the brightest, and neither are the courts. So the guy is tried and it turns out he was not Mirandized. It's conceivable that some judge could toss this case. I don't know about anyone else, but I don't want this guy back on the streets.
15 posted on 04/21/2013 4:28:57 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Hot Tabasco

He’s not a combatant unless you think the US is a war zone where the constitution is now suspended.

And it’s not...

combatant’s are in the mountains of Afghanistan with RPG’s not in Boston cooking bombs.


16 posted on 04/21/2013 4:29:14 AM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: LD Jackson

We do not read POW’s their rights.


17 posted on 04/21/2013 4:29:31 AM PDT by exnavy (Fish or cut bait ...Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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To: 0.E.O

The Supreme’s are a joke and once said slavery was legal.

I could care less what 5 lawyers in black say.

They’re irrelevant to me.


18 posted on 04/21/2013 4:30:10 AM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: LD Jackson

So, apparently Mr Phipps believes Tsarnaev is a complete idiot, and that the kid doesn’t have a clue that he has the right to remain silent and to ask for an attorney.


19 posted on 04/21/2013 4:31:17 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: JohnPDuncan
The U.S. is a war zone, We the people have not suspended the constitution. Obray-ma has ceased to uphold the constitution, we are fighting for our lives as a nation.

Muslim and all things moslim are the enemy, including the president. We live in unique times.

20 posted on 04/21/2013 4:33:32 AM PDT by exnavy (Fish or cut bait ...Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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