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1 posted on 04/21/2013 3:55:32 AM PDT by LD Jackson
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To: LD Jackson

What he said.


2 posted on 04/21/2013 4:03:30 AM PDT by abb
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It doesn't appear he was working at the behest of any foreign government or terror organization.

He was most assuredly working at the behest of Islam.

3 posted on 04/21/2013 4:05:01 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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Here’s the funny thing which always confuses me:

Dude has the rights anyway. What’s the big deal about reading them to him?

This is a complete distraction!

Whether they read to him the constitution or not is irrelevant!


4 posted on 04/21/2013 4:11:34 AM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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Also another thing worth noting...

In the media reports they said he ‘negotiated’ with the FBI for 20 minutes before he gave up.

Kid can’t be that stupid. He must have had the president on the phone and done a deal.

It’ll be interesting to see what happens.


5 posted on 04/21/2013 4:14:23 AM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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Miranda rights was a legal invention. It merely reiterates the constitution.

If this guy talks with or without and we can't use the info against him...so what...we have all other kinds of evidence. It's not like he's going to be released anytime soon.

And all he has to say is "I want an attorney"....and the exception is gone....

6 posted on 04/21/2013 4:16:29 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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The reading to him of his rights IS NOT ITSELF in the Constitution.

As a citizen, he should already know his rights and he can exercise them if he wishes.

The Constitution does not give the state the responsibility of educating a citizen of all their individual rights, so Miranda is a mistake. Miranda assumes that it is a state responsibility to educate the citizen.

The Constitution assumes some people will be dumb and stupid. Always has been the case, always will be.

If the state is responsible for educating a citizen of his/her rights, where does it end? Shouldn’t then the whole Bill of Rights - or the whole constitution be read to them?

Your reasoning is neither sound nor logical.

Especially since you are stating that he indeed might be working for a foreign state or group......at which point he is a treasonous citizen...


8 posted on 04/21/2013 4:19:21 AM PDT by Arlis (.)
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He's an enemy combatant regardless if he acted on behalf of any country or not so he's not entitled to the same rights as an ordinary citizen is.

He may have done the deed of an adult but he's still a naieve 19 year old punk who's going to sing like a bird once he can start talking coherently......

12 posted on 04/21/2013 4:24:12 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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What concerns me is: will the public safety exception hold up in court? This Justice Department is not filled with the best and the brightest, and neither are the courts. So the guy is tried and it turns out he was not Mirandized. It's conceivable that some judge could toss this case. I don't know about anyone else, but I don't want this guy back on the streets.
15 posted on 04/21/2013 4:28:57 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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We do not read POW’s their rights.


17 posted on 04/21/2013 4:29:31 AM PDT by exnavy (Fish or cut bait ...Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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So, apparently Mr Phipps believes Tsarnaev is a complete idiot, and that the kid doesn’t have a clue that he has the right to remain silent and to ask for an attorney.


19 posted on 04/21/2013 4:31:17 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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"Read him his rights?
Listen, you stupid Cracker
our ONLY goal,
since it is too late to weaponize him,
is to get him off."

27 posted on 04/21/2013 4:38:43 AM PDT by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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Like it or not, Tsarnaev is a naturalized U.S. citizen who is accused of crimes committed on U.S. soil.

Tsarnaev is a Foreigner, and an adherent to militant islam who was naturalized as an American Citizen and committed a major act of TERRORISM against the American people.

That is a more complete statement of fact other than what the author wrote.

Have to say, from the get-go I've been against the "Patriot Act" for a number of reasons, one of which is the "Enemy Combatant" declaration that can be used against any American Citizen - natural or naturalized.

This specific case though really makes me re-consider my position. Far as I'm concerned Tsarnaev belongs down in Gitmo being water-boarded endlessly until we have every bit of information there is from him.

Then again once the Federal Government violates the Constitional Rights of a naturalized citizen, it's not a big leap to do that to the rest of us (and this Government HAS and DOES violate/attempt to violate our Constitutional Rights frequently!)

Still wrestling with this one ...

30 posted on 04/21/2013 4:42:22 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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It's all about the questions....not his conviction...

If he wants to squeal about another hit or co-conspirators......fine.

36 posted on 04/21/2013 4:45:41 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Will this incident invoke NDAA? Set a first precedent?


47 posted on 04/21/2013 4:57:50 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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Interesting subject if for no other reason to remind ourselves the rights we are talking about. As you clearly said, we are in fact arguing not of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev rights, but rather the rights of all us.

The Constitution and laws are only effective if they are metered in justice and are consistent for all with NO exceptions. Those same exceptions we cry for today may and can be used against us tomorrow.

49 posted on 04/21/2013 5:01:00 AM PDT by saywhatagain
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I am so mad. I don’t give too hoots about this kid. However, why are the liberals not jumping on this? I know you don’t have to read him his rights because they are his already. HOWEVER, if Bush was President, those liberals would be shouting on every TV how unfair this is to the idiot kid. I am really getting to the point where I HATE all liberals and not just find them intolerable.


55 posted on 04/21/2013 5:09:14 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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Here is how I would read them to the scum bomber.

You have the right to remain silent. Forever, After a speedy trial.


58 posted on 04/21/2013 5:17:15 AM PDT by GraceG
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I know what I’m about to write will not sit well with most here but I agree with this article! He IS NOT an enemy combatant. To be so, you must first declare war on someone or some country or entity! As a “true” conservative I believe in limited government just as most of you and that includes limiting our government (Congress/Presidency) from simply giving the authorization for the use of force that gets us into open ended wars with no end in sight! This has ultimately led to the political correctness in our military institutions! This is a blatant dereliction of duty on behalf of Congress! We Conservatives should be arguing for the return of constitutionality which means that when you say you’re at war with someone (War on “Terror”) then the President must ask Congress for that declaration! Is it no wonder that we’re all in the mess we’re in-financially, morally, and politically??


60 posted on 04/21/2013 5:20:38 AM PDT by gumbie05
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Official: Boston bombing suspect ‘sedated’

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/20/us/boston-attack/index.html?iid=article_sidebar

The surviving suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings suffered an injury to his throat and may not be able to talk, a federal official told CNN on Saturday, possibly hindering attempts by authorities to question him about a motive in the attack.


68 posted on 04/21/2013 5:30:22 AM PDT by stlnative
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Crux = It doesn't  appear  he was working at the behest of any foreign government or terror organization
77 posted on 04/21/2013 5:45:24 AM PDT by tomkat
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