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Scouting is for Honor, Not Sex and Politics
http://www.onmyhonor.net ^ | April 22nd, 2013 | John Stemberger

Posted on 04/24/2013 8:41:11 PM PDT by Maelstorm

The Boy Scouts are one of the great jewels of American culture. The success of the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) is a result in no small part of the organization’s commitment to a set of ideas and principles that have guided the program for more than 100 years. Until recently, the BSA was unwavering in its conviction that these values and principles were “timeless.”

But now those values are under attack. The Boy Scouts are the victims of an aggressive, well-funded and relentless campaign to inject sex and politics into Scouting. Homosexual-rights activists have aggressively pushed a handful of top BSA leaders to consider changing its long-standing policy of not allowing open homosexuality in the Boy Scouts. On Friday, the Boy Scouts offered a resolution that caves to that outside pressure and could pass when the national council votes on it in May.

Virtually every news story on this topic erroneously frames this issue as the Boy Scouts “bans gays” or “discriminates against gays.” This is simply not true. Contrary to what the media might report, the Boy Scouts do not discriminate against homosexuals. The BSA membership application does not even ask about sexual orientation.

To make matters worse, there is a deliberate campaign of misinformation about who the Boy Scouts of America are and what they stand for. The media has been complicit, throwing around cries of “discrimination” and “equal rights” following the lead of these activists.

The great irony of this is that, while on one hand, the national media claims Scouting bans homosexuals, on the other hand, they have been consistently showcasing homosexuals Scouts and leaders in uniform who have been in the program for many years, all who are claiming with a straight face that somehow the Boy Scouts do not allow them.

The fact is that veterans of Scouting will tell you there are currently Scouts and adult leaders in uniform who have same-sex attractions and who are in good standing with the program. They are discreet, though; they are private, they are discerning, and most of all, they conduct themselves appropriately in front of other young boys. Further, there has never been a witch hunt in the BSA to find or remove its members with a same-sex attraction.

So if homosexuals are already allowed in Scouting, then what is the national controversy about?

The real issue is this: Homosexual-rights activists are not satisfied with membership in good standing and being allowed to fully participate like everyone else. They want to be able to openly promote homosexuality. They want to promote a gay-rights political agenda. They want to act out publicly and be “loud and proud.” They want to inappropriately inject sex and politics into the BSA program, where children as young as six years old are involved. Not on this dad’s watch. This behavior and open homosexual conduct is exactly what the current BSA policy prohibits, a prohibition that we as parents demand that the program reaffirm if it wants our continued support.

There is nothing stopping those who do not like Scouting’s stable and time-tested membership policies from creating their own organization without changing ours.

Changing the BSA membership policy is completely unnecessary. It solves no old problem and will only create myriad new problems for the organization, including upending parental control over the issues of sex and politics, forcing political agendas on young children, and transforming the Boy Scouts into yet another battleground for the homosexual agenda.

In February, BSA National Council leaders instructed committees to “listen to perspectives and concerns” in the Scouting community before a vote on May 22 and 23, which will determine whether to make a change to the existing policy.

Hearing that BSA leaders say they are in a listening mode, concerned parents, Scout leaders, Scouting donors and Eagle Scouts from across the country have joined the OnMyHonor.Net national coalition to say to the voting delegates of the national council sex and politics have no place in Scouting. When it comes to young boys, parents should have the final say, not agenda-driven activists.

Former U.S. Rep. Richard T. Schulze, Pennsylvania Republican, a recipient of the rare Distinguished Eagle Scout Award, recently commented, “What kind of a message are we sending to our young people if the very leaders who are teaching Boy Scouts to be brave cannot even find the courage to stand firm and avoid caving in to peer pressure from Hollywood and political activists?”

I could not agree more.

We implore the delegates to the National BSA Convention to affirm Scouting’s current membership policy along with the principles of the hard-fought and won 2000 U.S. Supreme Court case of BSA vs. Dale, which protects Scouting from further legal attacks and sets the program back on the firm foundation of principle for the future. John Stemberger is an Eagle Scout and president of On My Honor (OnMyHonor.net).


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STEMBERGER: Scouting is for Honor, Not Sex and Politics | OnMyHonor.Net

1 posted on 04/24/2013 8:41:11 PM PDT by Maelstorm
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To: All

The Boy Scouts are one of the great jewels of American culture. The success of the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) is a result in no small part of the organization’s commitment to a set of ideas and principles that have guided the program for more than 100 years. Until recently, the BSA was unwavering in its conviction that these values and principles were “timeless.”


2 posted on 04/24/2013 8:44:24 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Maelstorm

But the BSA, by being wishy washy and seeming to consider changes, has already LOST this battle


3 posted on 04/24/2013 8:46:52 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

It depends who you define as the BSA. It is unlikely that national voting members will vote to approve this change. The Executive board of the BSA is the problem. There are some big rich liberals that need to be removed. If they lose this vote it will be a big step towards getting rid of them.


4 posted on 04/24/2013 8:51:33 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: Maelstorm

Mrs S is a delegate and will be voting HELL NO!


5 posted on 04/24/2013 8:54:54 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (The amount of ammo you need is determined after the gunfight.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Should not have even come up for a vote


6 posted on 04/24/2013 8:58:55 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

As the article says, National is corrupted. The LDS will have a big say in this.


7 posted on 04/24/2013 9:02:39 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (The amount of ammo you need is determined after the gunfight.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Excellent! I just don’t see the rank and file 1,400 voting members of BSA’s National Council going for it. Not unless there has been an effort to infiltrate beyond the Executive board.


8 posted on 04/24/2013 9:11:17 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: Maelstorm

Excellent letter to the Boy Scouts of America. As true as true can be. The homosexual agenda propagandists actually don’t even care about homosexuals per se; they are out to destroy the value system that has made the U.S. great and to undermine effective social structures and replace them with chaos. The Marxist Left uses whatever crowbars they can find to overturn all the applecarts of society. They have no plan for a better society. All they are after is being in charge. It’s a power grab of as many institutions of society as they can get their hands on.


9 posted on 04/24/2013 9:19:54 PM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Maelstorm
So if homosexuals are already allowed in Scouting, then what is the national controversy about?

Back in the 80s, the homosexual screed was that they would be everywhere they can find boys - the classroom, summer camps, athletic events, etc.

Forcing the BSA to endorse homosexuality is sort of like the last notch on their belts.

To them it will mean that they have finally taken over.

It is no accident that all these politicians are coming out either gay or endorsing gay marriage.

It's all part of that gay wet dream they all had back in the 80s.

Our only resolve should be to man up.

10 posted on 04/24/2013 9:59:29 PM PDT by Slyfox (The Key to Marxism is Medicine ~ Vladimir Lenin is smiling from hell)
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To: Maelstorm
It is difficult to read how this resolution will go at next month's annual national council biz meeting. Keep sending up the prayers and contacting your local council's executive board members. The local council reps will have the most votes at the meeting.

http://scoutingmagazine.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/executive-summary-of-study-findings.pdf
Membership Standards Study Initiative Executive Summary
4/19/2013

Youth Protection

Youth safety and role modeling are two of the biggest concerns mentioned by members who oppose a change in the policy. In addressing issues related to youth protection for the membership standards study, the Boy Scouts of America tasked its director of Youth Protection, Michael V. Johnson, to consult with leading experts in the field of youth protection and child sexual abuse prevention that the BSA has consulted in the past in formulating the BSA’s Youth Protection policies and curriculum:

1 David Finkelhor, Ph.D.
2 W. Walter Menninger, M.D., psychiatry
3 Charol Shakeshaft, Ph.D.
4 Victor Vieth, J.D.

All four experts were consistent in their findings and recommendations, including:

1 “The nearly universal opinion among sexual abuse authorities is that same-sex sexual interest or same-sex sexual experience, either in adults or youth, is NOT a risk factor for sexually abusing children.”

Can anyone provide a source which disagrees with this position. It just does not smell right.

2 In regard to role modeling: “Most of the research on the effect on children of associating with self-identified homosexual adults has been done about homosexual parents. The clear conclusion from this research is that there appear to be no effects on children’s adjustment, mental health or sexual orientation.”

11 posted on 04/24/2013 10:42:35 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: Maelstorm

The left has been desperately tryign to mould our young children into sex objects for dirty filthy old pedophiles for a very long tiem now, goign so far as to require filthy foul sexual acts be taught to young kids and encouragign them to experiemnt and now that kids have been brainwashed by the foul filthy left, the left is demandign that we allow their filthy dirty old pedophiles to lead the kids unsupervised?

And we wodner why God has removed His blessings fro mthsi natrion of ours?


12 posted on 04/24/2013 11:21:45 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: GeronL

[[Should not have even come up for a vote]]

Lots of thigns shoulnd’t be comign up for a vote- like the vote on gun regualtions- yet we increrasingly see our nation capitulating to the left more andm ore- one has to wodner why? Because we’ve lsot our moral compass? Because we’re now afraid to stand for morality and inalienable rights agaisnt htose that wish to remove them from us?


13 posted on 04/24/2013 11:24:24 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now; Maelstrom; SandRat

COMMUNIST GOALS:

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.


14 posted on 04/24/2013 11:51:06 PM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: GeronL

Corrigidor has fallen. All that is left is the death march.


15 posted on 04/25/2013 3:06:26 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: MacNaughton

It isn’t nearly universal opinion but any expert that dares disagree publically would be hung in the town square. There is plenty of evidence that male homosexuality does have a core aligned with increased sexual abuse. Not only are gay males more likely to have reported sexual abuse as children the incidence rate of molestation by gay males far exceeds the general population. Even in the military the incidence of same sex abuse is several times that of the heterosexual population even though they represent a miniscule sub group.

Even if there wasn’t an abuse component the idea that open homosexuals should be role models for young boys is crazy. Boy Scouts isn’t about sex its about camping hiking fishing and character building and fun. The Scouts didn’t make this an issue the sexual exhibitionist fags did and they need to be stopped.


16 posted on 04/25/2013 9:14:46 AM PDT by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: Portcall24

bump


17 posted on 04/25/2013 8:51:29 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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