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They are liberty-loving people. And I’ll tell you what. If we don’t soon get a handle on the Marxist/Islamofascist wannabe dictator and his dull-witted Marxist/fascist thugs like Napolitano and Holder and they are successful in building his personal civilian army as he overturns our constitution, we are going to be in for one hell of a fight. They are determined to transform America into a totalitarian state and they are well on the way. Our congress seems powerless to stop him.

I don’t disagree that their basic impulse is liberty loving and patriotic. I just see this prepper business as a corruption of that impulse. I know that Kartographer and Marcella and the rest, even though I give them grief, are good folks and have the basic patriotic orientation — but we cannot give in to a defeatist mindset. We have to be happy warriors to be effective. We can’t accept defeat. I’m afraid that this forum is on the precipice of seeing the conservative movement as doomed, and I am convinced that nothing good can come from that mindset.

Our congress has the power to stop the transition to totalitarianism, but I’m not sure they are interested. It seems more a question of what is in it for McCain and the other RINOs than what is in it for free Americans. That is why, although I will obey all legitimate laws that are within the government’s authority as circumscribed in the Constitution, I will also remain prepared to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic”. My oath has no expiration date, not until they carve my expiration date on a tombstone.

I’d say that is the prevalent attitude on FR and among those who consider preparedness one of the many priorities to be balanced in our lives. I hope we will get back on track peacefully, with individual freedom a priority over the latest fad of enforced equality of outcomes, but I will be ready regardless of which path the other side insists upon. Financially, I am quite comfortable, so I am able to store a year’s supply of everything without inconvenience. If that were not the case, I would balance present needs and wants against the need for preparedness that has also made me keep fire extinguishers, insurance, flashlights, and jumper cables, along with innumerable other precautions throughout my life. Without preparedness, the forces of totalitarianism would be able to bring far more pressure to bear on us to comply with any future unlawful orders. While there are numerous, individually unlikely ways in which the S could hit the fan, some of them are intentional and government imposed. I don’t plan to permit the biggest S (Obama and his followers) to have any SHTF power over me.

"If we don’t soon get a handle on the Marxist/Islamofascist wannabe dictator and his dull-witted Marxist/fascist thugs like Napolitano and Holder and they are successful in building his personal civilian army as he overturns our constitution, we are going to be in for one hell of a fight."

Quite correct Jim. And the problem is exacerbated by the weak kneed BIG government loving congress critters that make-up the bulk of our Congress. The recent gun grab was in the Senate was as much a win because of our outrage over the legislation. It was in truth a victory because a handful of them feared losing their jobs! A few red state 'demonrats' voted against the bill not because they believed the bill to be bad. And it wasn't because they believe in the Second Amendment. It was because they wanted to keep their seats of power. This handful would have just as easily voted the other way if they had more time before the next election or if their party could offered them more cover. I was a victory, but a shifting re-election calendar could easily make it a defeat next time.

Let's face it for real freedom loving Americans there is no longer a party for us, there are two parties one the 'demonrats' who love and want BIG GOVERNMENT, the bigger the better even if it becomes so big it bankrupts us.

And then we have the Republicans who except for a small handful deep down love big government just as much as the 'demonrats' do. How many times have we said NO to amnesty and are told well we will do it this one last time and then we promise to bolt the door and get it under control so this won't happen again and have they ever done that?

How many times has a new big tax proposal they should have opposed become a small tax and they come running to us with claims of victory? And yet its still more taxes for more government, how many such bitter victories can we endure?

For every honest and forthright Republican Senator or Congressman who true wants and does what is best for America I give you one who will sellout as fast as he can to get that second third fourth term.

Big Government is the life blood of these people the bigger the government the more 'pork' there is that can be spread around, which in turns brings them more power. The bigger the government the bigger the 'power pie' is and their piece gets just a little bit bigger.

The days of the American Government doing what the American people truly want are numbered. The days of our Congress 'critters' truly being servants of the people are few.

The days ahead I fear have become times that George Orwell has described 'as a time of universal deceit, wherein telling the truth will be considered a revolutionary act' or as the bible says a time 'in which men call evil good, and good evil'.

Is it to late I do not know. Can America be saved I do not know, I hope so and I pray daily that it can as I have grandchildren and want them to grow up in a free land full of opportunities.

But my fear is that we have become a 'Narco Republic', but instead of cocaine, opium, meth and so forth the drugs that is being sold here is money and security and the coin of the realm is our very freedoms.

Rush Limbaugh summed it up the other day in what Judge Andrew Napolitano said were words worth of those of our Founders:

RUSH: You know what Ben Franklin said about this. This is one of my all-time favorite quotes. Benjamin Franklin once said: "People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both." Benjamin Franklin, and that's exactly right. People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both. People willing to trade their freedom for economic security, people willing to give up their dreams, people willing to trade the hard rigors of success in exchange for a modicum of existence will never know success, and their modicum sustenance hangs by a thread based on the good intentions of a government.

In other words, if you give up the right to provide for yourself, if you trade the hard work and the ambition of success, attempted success, for the guarantees of a government that you'll always have a phone, cable TV, and McNuggets, you're gonna be disappointed over both decisions. And, by the way, when you trade your freedom for temporary security, when you're not in charge of your security, when you have no control over your security, when you have no control over your economic circumstances, what kind of a thin thread are you hanging by? You're depending on the performance of other people that don't even know you. Politicians in a distant capital who, on a whim, could cancel whatever program that you depend on. Maybe cancel the McNuggets program, cancel the Obama phone program. It may happen. What if that's all you know? You depend on Santa Claus instead of yourself.

It's exactly right and look how many are hooked on what the Big Government 'Pushers' dealout.

It will be a long fight and tough fight if we are to save our beloved country, best to ready ourselves now. Especially those of us surround by big blue seas full government pushers and their loyal attics.