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Cities Will Collapse Even Sooner Than We Fear
SHTF Plan ^ | 5/24/13 | David Spero

Posted on 05/24/2013 5:55:36 PM PDT by Kartographer

In an earlier post we suggested that cities will decay into violent anarchistic morasses within a week or two. In that article we were deliberately trying to look at a ‘best case scenario’ (don’t laugh – the collapse of cities taking a week or two is, alas, a best case scenario!). Our projection was based on the ‘best case’ hope that people would remain passive for a few days and it would only be when people realized no help was coming and they were starting to starve that things would turn truly nasty.

One of our readers, ‘Lt. Dan’, wrote in to share his perspective of what might go down, and alas, it is not nearly as sunny and optimistic as our earlier best case hope. His point is that violence will break outimmediately. There will not be days of ambiguity before things start to fail.

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"There's a Storm Coming."

1 posted on 05/24/2013 5:55:36 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer

There’s a Great Storm coming you can feel it and the great cities of Europe are on the edges of it now, soon it will consume them.

Its your choice you can prep or you can stand around on a bridge waiting for FEMA to bring you a bottle of water, a MRE, a warm blanket and a kiss for your boo-boo and maybe you can even get your picture as you stand there on the national news.

Any one with half a brain can look around and see for themselves what is happening right before their eyes.

So listen to what the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it. NIV Proverbs 22:3

One of the things Selco covers in this article is the fact that many will not accept that a breakdown is occurring even as they watch it happening before their eyes. Why don’t they realize it? It’s caused by a condition called ‘Normalcy Bias’ a mental state people enter when facing a disaster.

It causes people to underestimate both the possibility of a disaster occurring and its possible effects. This often results in situations where people fail to adequately prepare for a disaster, and on a larger scale, the failure of governments to include the populace in its disaster preparations. The assumption that is made in the case of the normalcy bias is that since a disaster never has occurred then it never will occur. It also results in the inability of people to cope with a disaster once it occurs. People with a normalcy bias have difficulties reacting to something they have not experienced before. People also tend to interpret warnings in the most optimistic way possible, seizing on any ambiguities to infer a less serious situation.

A good article on ‘Normalcy Bias’ is on our own ChocChipCookies Blog The Survival Mom:

http://thesurvivalmom.com/2010/12/29/normalcy-bias/

You either prepare and stand on your own beholden to no one or you become dependent on others to provide your basic needs and become their ‘serf’. Me I don’t want to be beholden to anyone for providing what is needed for me and mine. I certainly don’t want to have to kiss some ‘gubberment’ third class bureaucratic to try and coax some help from them, I don’t want some ‘jack booted’ thug herding me in line and telling me where to stand, sit, eat or sleep. And last but not least I don’t want to be shut up in with a bunch of ‘zombies’ and have to worry about not only trying to get basic necessities but having to fight to keep what I manage to get.

There is a Great article in my Preparedness Manual on building your on Bug Out Bag titled: A Highly-Mobility 72 Hour Kit-by Ward Dorrity. You can download the whole manual at:

http://tomeaker.com/kart/Preparedness1j.pdf NOTE! THIS IS A FREE DOWNLOAD. I DO NOT MAKE ONE CENT OFF MY PREPAREDNESS MANUAL!

For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, cash (I myself have been putting up change for the past few years both for the metal content and the fact that using change places to make what purchases you can will move you down the the list of possible marks during shtf), tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.

As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”

Again I like to recomend FReeper’s ChocoChipCookie Blog The Survival Mom (Please Blog Police let this one slide!) Where you can get lots of useful information like:

http://thesurvivalmom.com/2011/11/20/8-morale-boosters-for-any-worst-case-scenario/

http://thesurvivalmom.com/2010/02/02/survival-priorities-the-rule-of-three/

And More

Also there is Ferfal’s Blog a survivor of Argentina’s first collapse:

http://ferfal.blogspot.com/

And there is Selco’s Blog a Bosnian War survivor at:

http://shtfschool.com/

“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger. Underestimation can be fatal.”


2 posted on 05/24/2013 5:57:50 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

I can’t wait myself. When all those SNAP cards stop working here in Illnois I’m going to pour myself three fingers of fine Bourbon, light a cigar, sit in my backyard and watch the rosy glow in the eastern sky as the south and west sides of Chicago go up in flames. And I’m going to laugh, and laugh, and laugh.


3 posted on 05/24/2013 5:58:52 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Kartographer

Ha ha! Shades of Global Warming!


4 posted on 05/24/2013 6:00:06 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Kartographer

An excellent article. For if you are not prepared from moment one, there isn’t thing one you can do to save yer arse.


5 posted on 05/24/2013 6:00:32 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (For me, I plan to die standing as a free man rather than spend one second on my knees as a slave.)
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

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Please consider this our Weekly Preppers’Thread to post progress, good buys, DIY projects, advice ...

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The Yoders meats are VERY good.


6 posted on 05/24/2013 6:01:37 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Lurker

Rotflmao. I’m thinking of having a bonfire, because the police will be distracted and I won’t have a permit. [snort]


7 posted on 05/24/2013 6:09:12 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Kartographer
On other really scary thought I never see mentioned is…. what happens to the tens of thousands of violent criminals in prisons??

Hopefully the power grid collapses and those locked in their cells will remain there so they will have the opportunity to make peace with their Maker rather than 'interface' with any local populace.

That would be a great ammo saver.

8 posted on 05/24/2013 6:09:35 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (For me, I plan to die standing as a free man rather than spend one second on my knees as a slave.)
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To: Kartographer
For your weekly prepper thread you should ask if you and your band of post apocalyptic brethren could take over and defend a fully stocked big box store which one would it be and why. Walmart, Target, Gander Mountain, Cabela's, Tractor Supply, Home Depot, Menard's, Dicks, Fleet Farm etc.

That is if you are looking for a topic for fun discussion.

9 posted on 05/24/2013 6:09:52 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: Lurker

(and the glow will be to the far southwest)


10 posted on 05/24/2013 6:10:04 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Kartographer

An Evil Wind blows.


11 posted on 05/24/2013 6:10:14 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Lurker
Maniacal laugh
12 posted on 05/24/2013 6:10:22 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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oops . . . southeast


13 posted on 05/24/2013 6:10:30 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Kartographer; a fool in paradise

As yesterday’s Boy Scouts urged: “Be prepared!”. As tomorrow’s Boy Scouts will urge: “Be fabulous!”


14 posted on 05/24/2013 6:11:56 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: 1rudeboy

I’m due west of the loop about 50 miles, smack in the heart of DuPage County. Should be great seats for the big show.


15 posted on 05/24/2013 6:14:02 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Kartographer

I think a key component is being fully informed about what is happening in the city and region. The article sketches a progression of the break down of civil order and the ensuing chaos. Civil unrest spilling into suburbia is one of my top prep items and concerns (sorry about that asteroids). Its called Situation Awareness. There will be precursive warnings and if things like the snap card go belly up - media like FR will have been on it and the cause well in advance (as well as other sources of unfiltered news). My prep plan places a lot of emphasis of identifying these precursors and making the correct preparations such as raising my family alert status to a higher level to permit flexibility to respond (such as keeping vehicles filled up, avoiding parts of town that will be engulfed first, pre-packing for bug-out, etc).

That said, you have to plan on where you are going to go and how to get there.


16 posted on 05/24/2013 6:14:10 PM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: Sawdring
ask if you and your band of post apocalyptic brethren could take over and defend a fully stocked big box store

Why not simply learn to play the trumpet and then paint a big bullseye on the front and back of your tactical outfit and parade down Main Street while playing the "Basin Street Blues"? It would be as effective.

17 posted on 05/24/2013 6:14:35 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (For me, I plan to die standing as a free man rather than spend one second on my knees as a slave.)
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To: Sawdring

Could we? Probably. But I know I wouldn’t. I am not a looter or pillager.


18 posted on 05/24/2013 6:15:03 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Sawdring
For your weekly prepper thread you should ask if you and your band of post apocalyptic brethren could take over and defend a fully stocked big box store which one would it be and why. Walmart, Target, Gander Mountain, Cabela's, Tractor Supply, Home Depot, Menard's, Dicks, Fleet Farm etc.

That is if you are looking for a topic for fun discussion.

Why take a store when the distribution centers are nearby?

19 posted on 05/24/2013 6:16:24 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (I believe in God. All else is dubious.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

The bullseye is the Target store.


20 posted on 05/24/2013 6:17:19 PM PDT by Sawdring
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