Posted on 08/25/2013 8:46:19 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
There’s a lot of that going around.
I do not support the takeover or George Soros plans. I don't know how you got that idea. I was one of the lost souls. I am warning that the governments plan is to dope up the population to get their way like passing the medical marijuana laws in Colorado.
I would have no problem with this IF I weren’t paying for it. If somebody wants to do drugs and die in a gutter that’s fine. However, as things go right now I have to pay for their treatment. I also pay for the food stamps that are sold for cash with which to buy the drugs. Eliminate all welfare- including Medicare, Medicaid, obamacare, Social Security, SNAP, WIC, etc.- and we’ll talk legalization of drugs. And I don’t care if you did pay into it, Medicare and SS are back door welfare programs.
Same with war on poverty, etc....
How much of the Constitution do we have to give up to make you happy? And even after trashing the Constitution, people will STILL be using drugs anyway.
/johnny
Because mj intoxication is addictive and dangerous in a way that beer isn’t. And mj is also one of the sacraments of the Left.
All unconstitutional usurpations by the federal government. They do need to be eliminated, and the fed stuffed back in the constitutional box.
/johnny
I'm the last person to defend mj use. I've seen brilliant people throw away their futures because of it. But the idea of making it a crime to personally grow and use a common plant--one that is easier to grow than a tomato plant--is stupid and a waste of resources.
“Put federal government back in the constitutional box.
That is, unless you are addicted to big government.”
DING, DING, DING, DING. We have a winner!
It is sad, but true: many who call themselves “conservative” really do love big government, and do not accept the limitations of enumerated powers in Art. 1 Section 8.
I’d go along with free crack, meth, heroin, etc. for addicts if we could also send them to the vacated Gulags in Siberia. They could have all the drugs they want once there, but for anything else they might need to survive, will that would be up to them to scrape together.
>> Marijuana causes bipolar and schitzophrenia <<
Never heard that before. What’s your evidence?
He has no evidence of that because it's utter BS.
You already are paying for it!
Wanna try something different, or continue to pay for it like you are currently doing!
“Because mj intoxication is addictive and dangerous in a way that beer isn’t.”
What way is that?
One option I do not see discussed when it comes to drug legalization as well as alcohol abuse. Live and let live - DO NOT provide any G’meny (Tax supported) assistance to addicts.
We have a many homeless, most of them are either mentally deranged (medical issues) or drug or alcohol over-users. Most of these people are weak, life goes on.
If we legalize drugs, at what age? Should we not also legalize all manor of other deviant behavior?
After all we are just talking about where the line is to be drawn.
The only legalization argument I that ever sways me a bit is just the potential of having one of the states (a worthless, Obama-voting blue state, of course) going for full legalization, and thus serve as a magnet for all the hippie dopehead filth to migrate to, leaving the rest of the country cleansed of them.
The argument against EVER legalizing it in my state is more practical. Because if I happen to walk to my local park, and see a group of zonked-out druggie scum, I’m very libel to start taking a baseball bat to their skulls. Which, could very conceivably lead to a few legal troubles for me. Hence, the practicality of keeping dope both illegal and meriting stiff sentences.
The reason many of us are Catholics is because we know God loves us. He gave us Beer and Wine
You must be at the gateway to Hell
This article is ridiculous. Americans have “contempt for hard drug use”...
NO THEY DON’T. Look at this pathetic waste of space Glee star who killed himself with drugs, he’s venerated, adored.
I came to a compromising stand a year ago. I think drugs that are physically addictive (i.e heroin and coke) should be regulated by the feds, and other drugs like pot, LSD, ecstasy, should be left up to the states to decide what they want to do. If Colorado thinks their state is better now, then so be it. If Louisiana thinks their state is better off without stoners being vindicated by state law, then so be it. That should be up to the STATES.
As side notes.
The comparison to alcohol and tobacco I find to be fallacious. Tobacco does not intoxicate you or hinder your inhibitions in any way. It does not stop you from driving or performing any other task as you go about your daily functions, although it is incredibly unhealthy and I wouldn’t recommend it. Alcohol on the other hand, while potentially destructive, is not used typically to get wasted, but rather as a drink like any other that we might enjoy at Applebees or at a baseball game. People who do use alcohol to intoxicate themselves, beat their wives and such are recognized as societal nuisances. I’ve never seen anyone smoke a joint or do a line of coke without the intention of getting high.
I am also sick of this ‘medicinal’ crap. People who go to these medicinal marijuana clinics should cut the BS, and just admit they want to get high. Even Greg Gutfeld has called out this farce and he’s very pro-legalization.
All that being said, the drug war has cost a countless sum of money, and has drawn attention away from more serious crime.
I also find we’re hypocritical if we have kids being told homosexual sex is A-OK, but pot is bad, when clearly the former is by far more destructive to you.
Woah, woah, woah... are you KIDDING?! These countries define police states. You can be arrested in the Netherlands for so called ‘hate speech’, as Geert Wilders almost was, and Sweden quite literally steals people’s children should they dare try to keep them away from the government education system.
“War is the health of the State.” - R. Bourne
The War on Drugs has been extraordinarily healthy for the State. It has militarized local police forces. It has made dynamic-entry, no-knock warrants commonplace, terrorizing and even killing innocents (and not a few dogs.) It has expanded the funding of the State by asset forfeiture. It has enriched politicians, prosecutors, and lawyers. It has usurped individual liberties and rendered the Bill of Rights a dead letter. It has empowered the national security establishment to spy upon all Americans and to turn over evidence thus obtained to law enforcement. It has defoliated cropland at home and abroad.
It has, however, failed to curb the use of recreational drugs. Obviously, it is time to double down ... again. It’s time to go full police state. To paraphrase George Bush, “We need to abandon the principles of the Constitution to save the Constitution from the evils of drugs.”
/Johnny
We need to eliminate all of the Fed. departments that the Congress critters have created over the years to shirk their legislative responsibilities.
Dept. of Education, Homeland Security, the list goes on
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