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Berlin: Kreuzberg Bans Christmas
Islam vs Europe ^ | 9/3/2013

Posted on 09/04/2013 5:24:10 AM PDT by markomalley

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1 posted on 09/04/2013 5:24:10 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

I’ve been to Kreuzberg... this doesn’t surprise me, as it’s Berlin’s answer to Greenwich Village.


2 posted on 09/04/2013 5:29:38 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: markomalley

We in 1945 should have saved some nukes for Berlin and Munich.


3 posted on 09/04/2013 5:45:50 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: markomalley

Interestingly, Kreuzberg is west of the old Berlin Wall.


4 posted on 09/04/2013 5:46:10 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: markomalley

Next they’ll ban Hanukkah and Ramadan.

Well , maybe not Ramadan. Could be bad for your health.


5 posted on 09/04/2013 5:46:11 AM PDT by trotskylvalia (where nose meets the grindstone)
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To: markomalley

I suppose Germany will never stop being Germany.


6 posted on 09/04/2013 5:48:15 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: ScottinVA

Do the mosques blast their call to prayer over high volume loud speakers, five times each day?


7 posted on 09/04/2013 5:48:33 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("Life is short. It's even shorter if you suggest going out for pizza on your anniversary" Peter Egan)
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To: markomalley; All
Interestingly enough it wasn't lost upon me that the name Kreuzberg means "Cross Mountain"... so I looked up the history of the name:

It was named by King Frederick William III of Prussia after the Iron Cross crowning the top of the Prussian National Monument for the Liberation Wars on the occasion of its inauguration on 30 March 1821.

Now where exactly did the Iron Cross come from? You see where this is going.

Then again they used to call America "The Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave"... Anymore? Not so much.

8 posted on 09/04/2013 5:55:21 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: markomalley

And some years back I understand they tried banning Chanukah too. It’s just a German thing.


9 posted on 09/04/2013 5:58:21 AM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Because 2 terms with Jerry Brown as Governor was all I could take.)
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To: ScottinVA; markomalley

Doesn’t ‘Kreuzberg’ mean Town of the Cross?......


10 posted on 09/04/2013 6:15:04 AM PDT by Red Badger (It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong. .....Voltaire)
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To: US Navy Vet

These days, I’m thinking more about DC and Chicago.


11 posted on 09/04/2013 6:28:31 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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“The borough is known for its very large percentage of immigrants and second-generation immigrants, many of whom are of Turkish ancestry. As of 2006, 31.6% of Kreuzberg’s inhabitants did not have German citizenship.

“While Kreuzberg thrives on its diverse culture and is still an attractive area for many, the district is also characterized by high levels of unemployment and some of the lowest average incomes in Berlin.

“The counterculture tradition of Kreuzberg led to a plurality of votes for the Green Party, which is unique among all Berlin boroughs. The local MP Hans-Christian Ströbele is the only Green politician directly elected to the federal Bundestag parliament.”


12 posted on 09/04/2013 7:23:54 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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To: Red Badger
Doesn’t ‘Kreuzberg’ mean Town of the Cross?......

Probably the inverted variety, in this case.

13 posted on 09/04/2013 8:53:22 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: ScottinVA

It is also home to about 200,000 Turks. I lived four years in Berlin. Kreuzberg is heavily Muslim. There have even been honor killings there. The Turks came there generations ago a guest workers. They have still not assimilated.


14 posted on 09/04/2013 8:56:07 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Fiji Hill
Interestingly, Kreuzberg is west of the old Berlin Wall.

It is.. and during the Cold War, Kreuzberg was full of anti-Western leftists who longed for life in the enlightened utopia of the east zone. But, when presented with the opportunity to actually move over to it, they -- like most lefties -- realized that longing wasn't quite so intense as they'd thought.

15 posted on 09/04/2013 8:57:17 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: kabar

Were at Tempelhof AB or the Berlin Brigade?


16 posted on 09/04/2013 9:03:25 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: freekitty
I suppose Germany will never stop being Germany.

What do you mean by that? I can tell you from personal experience that very few countries in the world celebrate Christmas as much as Germany. The Christmas markets are all over the country in every city and village. It is a very festive atmosphere, which is why this ban in Kreuzberg is the exception and so un-German. Unlike the US, Germany has not banned religion and Christian holidays from the public square.

17 posted on 09/04/2013 9:05:52 AM PDT by kabar
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To: ScottinVA

US Mission Berlin on Clayallee 1983-87. I was with the State Department.


18 posted on 09/04/2013 9:08:05 AM PDT by kabar
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To: ScottinVA; kabar
or Field Station Berlin
19 posted on 09/04/2013 9:11:47 AM PDT by Dstorm (Palin 2016)
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To: kabar
US Mission Berlin on Clayallee 1983-87. I was with the State Department

I went to Berlin in 1990 over Labor Day weekend, and chiseled off parts of the wall. It was a fascinating time. I was assigned with HQ European Command from 1989-1992.

20 posted on 09/04/2013 11:17:12 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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