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Illegal Guns Down Under, a Chilling Lesson for the U.S.A.
Gun Watch ^ | 30 November, 2013 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 11/29/2013 7:38:09 PM PST by marktwain

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Think about these farmers, minding their own business, when the Australian national government and their media decide to upend their world, 17 years ago. They did not register all of their guns. Some have said that they were storing some of the guns for neighbors and freinds. Who knows how much they will now have to suffer because of the ignorance of their urban cousins and the malevolence of their media and government.
1 posted on 11/29/2013 7:38:10 PM PST by marktwain
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Some of those are nice pieces. One looks like a Model 1887 lever action shotgun!


2 posted on 11/29/2013 7:43:25 PM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: marktwain

Now you know how to tell when it’s time to bring a baseball bat to the Senate.


3 posted on 11/29/2013 7:44:12 PM PST by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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I’m amazed at how quickly Australia slipped down in national image, from this sudden anti-gun switch they did in the 1990s or whenever.

Australia went from wild, sexy and cool, to a shell of it’s old image, in no time.

Now they seem beaten and pathetic, tamed.


4 posted on 11/29/2013 7:46:12 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradlee-JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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When your rights are not written down - anyone can take them away.

When your rights are written down, at least it gives you the authority to fight back when they try to take your rights.


5 posted on 11/29/2013 7:51:55 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: marktwain

The momentum and votes swung just at the right time to disenfranchise rural Australia. Fortunately, for now, the US is not quite so easily dismembered.

We are not far from it, though.

We must be ever vigilant and vocal.


6 posted on 11/29/2013 7:57:20 PM PST by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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When your rights are not written down - anyone can take them away. When your rights are written down, at least it gives you the authority to fight back when they try to take your rights.

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7 posted on 11/29/2013 7:58:27 PM PST by Yaelle
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Oh nose! Some ranchers in the outback have some Fudd guns. Why don’t they just leave these fellas alone?


8 posted on 11/29/2013 8:07:20 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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To: ansel12

While there is some variation state to state, gun laws generally in Australia would make an American cringe.

-One must apply for a license to be a shooter and gun owner.

-One must submit an application (PTA) to the state police each and every time they wish to purchase a firearm, new or used, retail or private sale.

-One must demonstrate the ability to safely store a firearm and that must be signed off by the state police.

-One’s firearm storage is subject to random inspection by the state police who will visit your home and inspect your storage set-up.

-One is subject to the licensing and classification system the various Australian states have devised.

-One may only legally possess a single-shot, bolt-action or single/double barreled shotgun under the basic license (Cat A/B.) General hunting, target shooting, etc.

-One may only legally possess a semi-auto rimfire or pump action shotgun under a Cat C License. Need here is vague to me.

-One may only legally possess a semi-auto centerfire or shotgun under a Cat D License. Cat D licensees must be dealers, collectors, farmers/ranchers, or, professional hunters who can demonstrate that they receive a certain percentage of their yearly income from contract hunting to the Aussie government.

-One may only legally possess a Cat H handgun license if they belong to a handgun shooting club/range and also participate in a minimum number of competition shoots per year (one per quarter I believe.)

So, if you want to own a firearm in Oz the government will want to know what it is, the serial, how it’s being stored and where, what you’re using it for and when, and, who’s using it at any given time. If you can’t provide that info then you are highly likely to lose your license, have any firearms you own seized with no compensation, and, will have to wait many years before you can reapply for a license or permit to purchase again.

Nice little police state they have there.


9 posted on 11/29/2013 8:10:54 PM PST by FAA
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Oh nose! Some ranchers in the outback have some Fudd guns. Why don’t they just leave these fellas alone?

Answer: because they are from the government, and can do whatever the heck they want to...........


10 posted on 11/29/2013 8:11:31 PM PST by basil (2ASisters.org)
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Bump


11 posted on 11/29/2013 8:22:27 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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Look at the 2nd pic posted; those are the interesting firearms:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3096453/posts?page=32#32


12 posted on 11/29/2013 8:28:05 PM PST by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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Interesting for gun-controlled Australia, but I have more interesting truck guns than those.

Anyhow, aside from violating Australian gun ownership laws, did the police have any evidence that the guns were used in the commission of a crime or that any guns were sold to criminals? If not, the raid was just a demonstration of official power, nothing more.


13 posted on 11/29/2013 8:36:11 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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In the “scary” second picture of “semi autos” one sees.......two tacti-cooled bolt action rifles and a pump action Remington 7615. I can’t make out the other two.

” Anyhow, aside from violating Australian gun ownership laws, did the police have any evidence that the guns were used in the commission of a crime or that any guns were sold to criminals? If not, the raid was just a demonstration of official power, nothing more.”

The simple act of possessing them without registration is major violation of state law. Used in crime? Hell, simply having them is equitable to multiple felonies here.


14 posted on 11/29/2013 8:47:15 PM PST by FAA
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To: Little Ray

soon to come to this land—if Obama and the Democrats have their way.


15 posted on 11/29/2013 9:37:21 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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soon to come to this land—if Obama and the Democrats have their way.

If the gubermint agents come for our guns against the second amendment we can detain them as eneimies of the state, right?


16 posted on 11/29/2013 10:05:56 PM PST by WilliamRobert (Rafael Cruz is an American hero)
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Why do Aussies oil their lawns? So the guns won’t rust.


17 posted on 11/29/2013 10:11:03 PM PST by aviator (Armored Pest Control)
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To: marktwain

Meh, I don’t care what the law is one way or the other.


18 posted on 11/29/2013 10:26:22 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: FAA

Like you said. In this case, just having them is a crime. Purty durn sad.


19 posted on 11/29/2013 10:40:33 PM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: ansel12

Careful sunshine appearances can be deceiving LOL!

There has been no news of how the cops found out about these guys but I suspect as so many of their weapons were unregistered and Queensland is currently cracking down on bikie crime that they may have been selling guns and ammo to what amounts to our organised crime syndicates here in Aus. If that is the case I have no sympathy for them. It really is not that hard to register and possess a weapon - only legal ones though - otherwise ya better hide ‘em good!

Somebody has put them to the Police I would imagine in exchange for leniency on a larger crime!

Mel


20 posted on 11/29/2013 11:35:13 PM PST by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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