Posted on 01/20/2014 3:46:16 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
Do you really think that McConnell doesn’t care if the GOP retakes the Senate? That’s the *one* thing he cares about.
McConnell wants the GOP to win, as does Rove. While it is a fact that they have different ideas than we do about what kind of candidate can win (which is why he’s pissed at the Tea Party movement, which he blames for leading to GOP losses in several winnable Senate races), it is nonetheless true that sometimes the candidate with the most solid conservative record happens to be the one that they feel will have the easiest time winning (and will help the most with fundraising once elected).
Oh, and I “began appearing” on FR in 2002.
Yes, Bridenstein is the Tea Party conservative that defeated long time incumbent John Sullivan. He’s a freshman Rep but will take the seat
So, who do you like for Bridenstine’s seat, then??
"Sources tell The Hill Bridenstine may be leaning against a run after receiving some discouragement from local conservatives, while Shannon is now “strongly considering” the race."
If conservatives are skeptical of Lankford, there is probably good reason
Erickson is not the most popular guy around here
lolz
Attacking conservatives and undermining them is what they do best
Yeah, but the same ‘sources’ said Sullivam was not in trouble and would easily win re-election. The conservative anger here in OK is very strong.
Run Shannon run.
JC Watts is living happily ever after on his ranch in south central Oklahoma, which is a decision most of us support.
We'll vote for who we damn well please, thank you, and that goes almost as much for Tom Coburn's opinion too, at least so far as I'm concerned.
As for myself, I'm inclined to favor Shannon over Lankford, and hope for Bridenstein to stay out of it and keep his seat in the house. Shannon's the real deal.
The commu- excuse me, the Democrats would be salivating over that seat, they've been grooming their own answer to Nancy Pelosi in the State House, representing a district in central Tulsa that's overly infested with people of that ilk.
“So Speaker Shannon is a “GOPe Favorite”?...”
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Didn’t Mama tell you that “assumption is the mother of all ‘foul’ ups”?
I didn’t say that Shannon was the GOPe favorite, as you well know. The GOPe favorite is, as you above all should know, Lankford.
That’s who ALL true conservatives want to defeat in the primary, correct?
So I write a post saying that Shannon is a conservative irrespective of who may endorse him, you write a reply accusing me of being a “defender of the GOPe,” and now you claim that you weren’t talking about Shannon, but about *Lankford* (whom I didn’t even mention)? Okey-dokey.
I want OK to elect the U.S. Senator whop would be most effective in advancing conservative principles. I happen to believe that T.W. Shannon would be that man, and if he runs, I will support him. If Bridenstine runs as well, and there’s a run-off between Bridenstine and Lankford, I’d support Bridenstine, but that’s highly speculative at this point.
And my point, which I guess I have to repeat, is that I don’t give a rat’s behind who Karl Rove or Mitch McConnell endorse, because I can think for myself, and will judge a candidate based on his record, not on who has endorsed him. Well, that’s not entirely true—I will consider who has endorsed him, but only as guidance, and not as something that trumps a candidate’s clear record. And, truth be told, as much as I dislike Rove’s brand of politics, Rove’s endorsement would not cause me as much revulsion as would an endorsement by that anti-Semitic, un-American L. Ron Paul, and even a Paul endorsement won’t deter me from voting for someone if he is a proven conservative and doesn’t appear to be a Paultard.
“So I write a post saying that Shannon is a conservative irrespective of who may endorse him, you write a reply accusing me of being a “defender of the GOPe,”...”
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I wasn’t reacting to anything you wrote regarding Shannon...I was reacting to these words from your post in item 13:
“Rove and McConnell are in the business of winning elections, not losing them, so if they see a conservative as a winner they’ll back the conservative.”
Given a choice between a RINO wannabe and a conservative candidate in a given primary, Rove and McConnell (along with the RNC) have a track record of usually choosing the RINO. IMHO, they choose the RINO because they expect him/her to “go along to get along” (and NOT make trouble for the GOPe rulers in DC) if they get to Washington.
And I truly believe that Rove and McConnell are more about their position, their power and their income than they are about winning elections. If they think that a man of integrity and principle such as Ted Cruz would not “cooperate” with them, they’ll support a RINO opponent—every time. And if there is a TRUE conservative (who may not “go along to get along”) in an election facing a Democrat, their support of that conservative will be tepid at best (e.g., Ken Cuccinelli).
I don’t disagree that it seems that Rove and McConnell prefer RINOs to conservatives when making endorsements, but at least in the case of McConnell (and probably in the case of Rove as well) I don’t think that he’d endorse someone whom he thought was less electable just because he was more liberal. And even if I’m wrong and the two prefer RINOs to conservatives to the exclusion of just about everything else, it is still possible that they’d endorse Shannon over the less conservative Lankford because it’s good for business to support a black conservative officeholder who will be going places irrespective of what happens in the Senate election.
Going back to my original point, the fact that Rove and McConnell endorse someone does not ipso facto make that candidate a RINO. We can determine for ourselves who is conservative and who isn’t based on their words and (most importantly) their deeds. I mean, you already know that Lankford isn’t a true conservative and Shannon and Bridenstine are, and no RINO has endorsed yet.
Is Lankford for legalization of illegals?
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