Posted on 02/20/2014 4:38:53 AM PST by No One Special
Nope. It was the EU that demanded an exclusive association, not Russia. To be more precise, the EU requires it's members to defer to the central government on issues such as tariffs and immigration.
Soros’s hands are in this too and Obama is meddling in matters best left to those in the immediate vicinity.
I would NOT be surprised to see such violence break out right here in the U.S. and I believe odumbo would welcome it. More than likely he too, will be the cause.
They chose Russia because the EU was giving them cr**.
Among themselves. Try telling French farmers they're going to have to compete with Africans.
Now now. No bringing reality into the conversation.
You’ve got George Soros involved in this ugly picture and you’re blaming Putin??
You’ve got George Soros involved in this ugly picture and you’re blaming Putin??
That's a deliberate lie, no such demand was ever made.
In fact Putin proposed tripartite negotiations with the EU & Ukraine several months ago, before Yanukovich made his decision.
B.S.
“Soross hands are in this too and Obama is meddling in matters best left to those in the immediate vicinity.”
“Youve got George Soros involved in this ugly picture and youre blaming Putin??”
from this link (Soros involvement)
http://www.voltairenet.org/article181535.html
The connections between the Kyiv uprising and the EU outside manipulators are so apparent, the Kyiv square that has become the «Tahrir Square» of Ukraine is called «Euromaidan.» The initial Tahrir Square uprising in Cairo, which overthrew Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, was partly manipulated by Soros-financed and Sharp-influenced street demonstrators who took their cues from professional political agitators hastily flown into Egypt from the United States and Europe.
The latest professionally-agitated spectacle in Kyivs was spearheaded by the same Soros/Sharp/National Endowment for Democracy/CIA hydra that saw the overthrow of Ukraines government in 2004 in the so-called Orange Revolution. This time, not only is Ukrainian President Yanukovych, but ultimately Russian President Vladimir Putin, are the targets [2]
Nuland, who is married to the neocon Robert Kagan, handed out snacks to protesters on Maidan Square. Imagine the reaction of the United States had a second-tier official of either the Russian or Chinese foreign ministry handed out food to Occupy Wall Street protesters in Washington and urged them to overthrow, by force if necessary, President Obama.
FYI
Chicago Mercantile Exchange (CME) derivative involvment in the Ukraine
http://investor.cmegroup.com/investor-relations/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=581233
the Ukraine girls really knock me out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHD5nd3QLTg
(music to read this post by)
And Russian-led Customs Union has most of the votes being held by Russia, what’s your point?
Yanukovych starts to sign the EU trade agreement, Russia closes the borders to Ukraine trade - summer 2013. These two events could be completely unrelated, then again, they might not be
The Russian deal doesn't prevent Ukraine from making similar deals with other parties. It only limits tariffs within the union.
Exactly.
The Russians also made a substantially better offer to Ukraine, (less strings, more money, and a natural gas discount) than the EU/IMF proposal.
The Europeans admitted as much afterwards and at least one rating agency agreed by raising Ukraine's credit rating.
But seriously, what I read about the Customs Union bears little resemblance to the Russian magic stories you're telling me:
The presidents of Russia, Kazakhstan and Belarus sat down on October 24 in Minsk to grapple with the thorny problems facing their free trade zone from trade barriers to confusion over Customs Union expansion. It was a tense meeting.
President Nursultan Nazarbayev of Kazakhstan usually a staunch Russian ally was in a combative mood, accusing Moscow and Minsk of erecting unfair barriers to trade, describing the Customs Unions Russian-dominated regulatory body as politicized , and urging caution in Moscows efforts to welcome new members.
eurasianet.org link
That’s a very nice proletariat straw-man you’ve constructed there Ivan, but it doesn’t much resemble what’s really happening.
The Russians have not insisted that Ukraine join the nascent Eurasian Customs Union as a condition for accepting their economic proposal, nor have they said that Ukraine is prohibited from engaging in future trade deals with Europe. In fact, it was the EU/IMF and not Russia which made the either/or ultimatum to Ukraine.
Objective economic analysis supports the position that the Russian deal is the better choice for Ukraine. So save your scary Russian bed time stories for the limp wristed western socialist elites, and the geriatric cold war emos who unwittingly support their agenda.
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