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Josh Lang's Photos of the Fuddy Crash Are Not the Same Plane
Butterdezillion's Blog ^ | 2-23-14 | Butterdezillion

Posted on 02/23/2014 3:09:07 PM PST by butterdezillion

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To: Fred Nerks

Makes sense.


241 posted on 02/23/2014 9:05:15 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Greenperson

During this time we made many low passes over the crash site and people


Hmm, if they made many low passes over the people, and cameras have telephoto settings, or whatever you call the things that make you see closer (I know NOTHING about photography obviously), and there were 2 in the plane making the numerous passes, it does seem that they would have taken some photos of the people floating about.


242 posted on 02/23/2014 9:08:53 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: hoosiermama
The pictures aren't clear enough for me to make out many details and I can't tell what the N-number is.

I can't really see the antennas clearly enough to see if they might be different or if the crash damage is different.

Flaps appear to be the same in both pictures. Electrical failure or set per the handbook?

How many C208s have been ditched? How many for that airline? Is that a file pic of a past crash or of the Fuddy plane?

243 posted on 02/23/2014 9:10:06 PM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: butterdezillion; WhiskeyX

“And not if you know that the videographer claimed to turn the camera “back on” only AFTER the alarm went off when the video clearly shows the passengers videotaped when they’re acting like they haven’t got a care in the world.”

In the nightline video, he says he turned the camera on after the engine quit. In the same video the buzzer sounds about 10 seconds before the plane hits the water. The engine had been dead for awhile before that alarm went off.

Here is the video from GMA and again between alarm going off and impact is also about 10 seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnLUVosInNQ

I suppose it is possible that when the engine failed there were other alarms that went off and the pilot turned them off as they would be quite distracting.


244 posted on 02/23/2014 9:12:48 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: WhiskeyX; butterdezillion

“Being suspicious of a person having and using 2 GoPro cameras is totally unwarranted, especially flying around a place offering beautiful vistas like the Hawaiian Islands.”

This guy had his.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwYmMG61VDk

@1:20 “I got it on the Go Pro”

What’s great about this video is after the plane crash lands, the flight attendants keep telling the passenger to sit down they are not at the gate yet. LOL


245 posted on 02/23/2014 9:25:15 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: Fred Nerks

It has been a hard/difficult time for a long time for many prople but I believe there are dots to be connected that others did not see or explore to two of the men you show. One has to review the history of the men pictured, I know about each, to see them as men of real interest. I know photos of myself today do not give close/good representation to my sons as they did at my earlier years. In any case I am as much interested in events and time lines as I am along with the photos. I believe Obama and his enablers knew that it would be difficult to unravel what was not much publicly linked/known about his life. Someday the people of the USA will realize the Nation has had a huge hoax and dog-and- pony show. Some will see such as just good politics but others like myself will see it as tragedy.


246 posted on 02/23/2014 9:27:43 PM PST by noinfringers2 ( /*)
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To: noinfringers2

It’s a tragedy for the entire free world, what remains of it. There’s some background here that might interest you, I suggest you start at the end and work forward:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2278969/posts


247 posted on 02/23/2014 9:32:33 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: butterdezillion

Making sense of it starts with realizing that it’s the same plane in all the photographs.

The M and the A are there in the N-number in both photographs along with other identifying marks.


248 posted on 02/23/2014 9:33:01 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: little jeremiah

What was the purpose of the alleged diver?


249 posted on 02/23/2014 9:38:08 PM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: GBA
but the other looks like the smaller/shorter C208 Caravan.

You mean, like the Malaysian police's airplane? You tell me. You posted the photo.

Anyway, photos of the Fuddy airplane are not hard to find, thanks to the plane-spotting hobby. Example:

Obviously, it was a Grand Caravan.

You can check out the differences between the Caravan and the Grand Caravan on cessna.com. And, if you've got an extra $2m lying around, why not put in an order? Gotta keep those folks in Wichita on the job, don't you know!

250 posted on 02/23/2014 10:02:20 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: little jeremiah

It is possible that he took pictures of the people floating in the water and didn’t release them because they could be traumatic to survivors. Why get sued over a picture?


251 posted on 02/23/2014 10:12:29 PM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: little jeremiah; butterdezillion
I don’t know why everyone keeps talking about someone “killing” Fuddy on this thread. Butterdezillion has not even mentioned that or brought it up or speculated about that. That has nothing to do with the topic of this thread or any of the other threads she has started or posted on, in connection with this plane accident.

Well, jeez. I stand corrected.

I kept thinking the point is the assassination of Loretta Fuddy. But, no! It's the faked assassination of Loretta Fuddy. Kinda like Timmy McVeigh waking up in Mount Weather with a severe hangover after his faked execution? LOL!

252 posted on 02/23/2014 10:16:26 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: Fred Nerks

I have read that posting on FR and have it among my 1-2 ft high stack of reference/research documents from before the early 2000s. I reiterate I have not seen to my recollection that Obama has actually ever claimed he had African blood in his veins and he did not say any such thing in an interview with Barbara Walters in 2010. If you can point me to such an admission please do so. Until I see such verified information/admission I will keep open that he could be of another dark skin bloodline. I myself as a young boy was often taken alongside my playmates as a Negro and while serving in the Philippines in WWII I was often taken as a dark skinned Filipino. I certainly am not of either ethnic people. As such skin color is not an absolute indicator of having African blood in one’s veins.


253 posted on 02/23/2014 10:29:15 PM PST by noinfringers2 ( /*)
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To: butterdezillion
Actually, (and I have followed this from the beginning with interest and think there are significant irregularities which cause me to question this crash, Fuddy's death as an "accident", and the provenance of the _resident at 1600 PA Ave.), I look at the image and there is a shadow of a door with a light spot in it (window) across the top of the aircraft cabin.

The hatch upper half does not open to vertical with the cabin roof, and the light is coming from about the 10 o-clock position if you look at the image as a clock face.

There is some apparent distortion, but if you take a desk lamp, cut a rectangle out of a piece of cardboard and cut a window in it, you will be able to reproduce the shadow on the cabin roof.

It is good to check this, but I think this is at least the same type of plane, if not the same one. Only the tail number would sort that out.

However, assuming it is the same plane, this one is in good enough shape for all to escape, and nothing like the shredded mess piled on the deck of the salvage vessel.

The water there is deep enough the plane should not have been damaged by wave activity, so why all the damage during investigative salvage?

254 posted on 02/23/2014 10:30:56 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: noinfringers2

So you are assuming that because the title of that post is OBAMA THE AFRICAN COLONIAL, it means the author of the article believes he’s of African heritage?

The original African Colonials were Portugese, French, English, Belgian, Dutch...and probably a few more I’ve forgotten.

Sorry I mentioned it.


255 posted on 02/23/2014 10:35:09 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: Ray76

I personally have no opinion or evidence of anything. I merely read and hope that something becomes clear. But what is clear is that everyone and everything connected to the background and alleged background of the Freak in the WH is fishy, suspect, nefarious, often faked/photoshopped/scrubbed/twisted and/or hidden.

So this accident or whatever it was, with the woman who knew about and likely helped make or put together and IIRC had her name connected to the Freak in the WH’s forged birth certificate, looks fishy/weird/contrived and has many discrepancies of diverse kinds.

It It appears from things said on the thread that the theory is that Fuddy was removed from the scene to protect her. Whether that is factual or not I have no idea.


256 posted on 02/23/2014 11:11:44 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: B4Ranch

I doubt photos of people bobbing about in the water would be traumatic to any of them. It looks like the safest airplane engine failure and accident in the history of aviation.


257 posted on 02/23/2014 11:13:26 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: noinfringers2

In 1995 Barack Obama wrote a book which, in part, is about having African blood in his veins called “Dreams From My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance.”
On the cover of the book are pictures of his Kenyan Luo tribe relatives, Habiba Akumu Hussein and Barack Obama, Sr. (Obama’s paternal grandmother and his father as a young boy).


258 posted on 02/23/2014 11:20:50 PM PST by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: little jeremiah

>> It It appears from things said on the thread that the theory is that Fuddy was removed from the scene to protect her.

And all the passengers kept their mouths shut?

And the rescuers kept their mouths shut?

This notion that there was a diver, either unnoticed by everyone or unmentioned by everyone, is ridiculous.

And what of the funeral mourners?


259 posted on 02/23/2014 11:32:36 PM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: noinfringers2

He claims his father was a Lou from Kenya.

260 posted on 02/23/2014 11:54:19 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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