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Cardinal Dolan says "Bravo!" (to Gay Football Player Michael Sam)
Rorate Caeli ^

Posted on 03/09/2014 4:44:13 PM PDT by ClaytonP

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To: ClaytonP

Dolan is a massive disappointment. And to think he is sitting in the chair of the late, great Cardinal O’Connor. Makes me sick to my stomach.


21 posted on 03/09/2014 5:31:46 PM PDT by livius
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To: ClaytonP
Buffoon: noun \(ˌ)bə-ˈfün\. : a stupid or foolish person who tries to be funny.
22 posted on 03/09/2014 5:36:52 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: ClaytonP

US bishops....bleeech


23 posted on 03/09/2014 5:47:45 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

I think buffoon is the appropriate word for Dolan. Also...Democrat. He adores Cuomo and, bizarrely enough, he really seems to love De Blasio, the leftest of the left..


24 posted on 03/09/2014 5:51:03 PM PDT by livius
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To: ClaytonP
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25 posted on 03/09/2014 5:51:12 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Farmer Dean; All

as a practicing Catholic i agree with his view not to judge Sam but Dolan then contradicts himself by saying “bravo”....isn’t that judging in a positive sense just as condemning him is judging in a negative sense????


26 posted on 03/09/2014 5:57:44 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Rorate Caeli is just doing Satan’s work for him.

“Bravo” Rorate Caeli!!! Good for you!

You like doing satan’s lifting and who am I to judge? That’s your choice, your free will given to you by God the Father, the one you choose to offend.

Myself, I will follow Jesus Christ, like Cardinal Dolan. Yoy can’t kill me so easy when I say “Bravo, Good for you!” though we disagree completely. Don’t live in fear like that football player, come out and feel the freedom to state your sinfulness and begin to see that you are more than a homosexual inclination. You are a child of God and deserve not just your free will, but all of his love - see the bible and Church on how to do that.


27 posted on 03/09/2014 6:12:17 PM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: ClaytonP

Huh, but the cardinal certainly judge divorced heterosexuals and non-catholic Christians!


28 posted on 03/09/2014 6:14:52 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: ClaytonP
"I would have no sense of judgment on him," Dolan continued. "God bless ya. I don't think, look, the same Bible that tells us, that teaches us well about the virtues of chastity and the virtue of fidelity and marriage also tells us not to judge people. So I would say, 'Bravo.'"

Doesn't the same Bible tell us that homosexual behavior is an abomination? So there is no virtue in homosexual behavior. Wow. Never thought I would hear a Catholic Cardinal say such a thing.
29 posted on 03/09/2014 6:18:10 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: If You Want It Fixed - Fix It

Huh? I don’t like Rorate Caeli (gives traditionalists a bad name) but Dolan actually did say this and it was reported in the Post, the News and every other New York source.

What is there to say “bravo” about in this case? If the guy’s a good football player, that’s all that matters. But self-identifying as “gay” means that he believes his penis and where he likes to put it is the most important thing ini his life and supersedes all else. And the Cardinal thinks this is a good thing?


30 posted on 03/09/2014 6:28:44 PM PDT by livius
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To: ClaytonP
My reply to Dolan and his bizarre, aberrant, anti-Catholic endorsements and rantings is

Bravo Sierra!!!

31 posted on 03/09/2014 6:49:02 PM PDT by Heart-Rest ("Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap." Gal 6:7)
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To: If You Want It Fixed - Fix It; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; redleghunter; ...
Myself, I will follow Jesus Christ, like Cardinal Dolan. Yoy can’t kill me so easy when I say “Bravo, Good for you!” though we disagree completely. Don’t live in fear like that football player, come out and feel the freedom to state your sinfulness and begin to see that you are more than a homosexual inclination. You are a child of God and deserve not just your free will, but all of his love - see the bible and Church on how to do that.

No, no one deserves God's love, as instead we are worthy of damnation, and the way God justifies the unGodly is by faith in Christ to save by His sinless shed blood and righteousness.

See the Bible (Rm. 3:10-5:1) and a real Bible church on that, which also teaches homosexual relations are sin.

32 posted on 03/09/2014 7:03:46 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: ClaytonP

What is wrong with Cardinal Dolan? It seems that almost every time that I see something about him he has said something stupid.


33 posted on 03/09/2014 7:23:13 PM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: billhilly

Alter boys? Is that some new Transformer line?


34 posted on 03/09/2014 7:27:22 PM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: daniel1212

It is difficult to decide which admission this week is worst, Dolan above or Pope Francis’ admission of stealing a crucifix from a casket.


35 posted on 03/09/2014 7:42:08 PM PDT by redleghunter
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To: Farmer Dean
If a Cardinal in the Catholic church doesn’t feel qualified to say what is sin,what is he doing in that position of authority?

And the Bishops wonder why so many Catholics are confused?

36 posted on 03/09/2014 7:48:11 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Bigg Red

I’m not a Catholic, so you will have to make do with my language or ignore it. I will be happy if you choose the later.


37 posted on 03/09/2014 7:56:44 PM PDT by billhilly (Its OK, the left hated Bush.)
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To: redleghunter
It is difficult to decide which admission this week is worst, Dolan above or Pope Francis’ admission of stealing a crucifix from a casket.

I actually do not see the crucifix thing as really stealing, or comparable to Bravo for a coming out, but weekly we see things, that, while not unique to Rome or worse than many other churches, yet examples the diversity of RC faith and often its liberal nature, contrary to the image avid RC supporters seek to paint of it. a couple more:

Cardinal O’Malley, female Methodist pastor team up on ritual

http://www.patriotledger.com/x890778978/To-a-female-Methodist-minister-a-surprise-request-from-Cardinal-O-Malley?zc_p=0

Charismatic priests battle Catholic flight.

About 6 000 faithful are seated and thousands more are standing, all waiting for the master of ceremonies and face of the movement - 46-year-old rock star Catholic priest Marcelo Rossi. - http://www.news24.com/World/News/Charismatic-priests-battle-Catholic-flight-20130605

38 posted on 03/09/2014 8:02:14 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Bigg Red

Archbishop Timothy Dolan] also does not outright deny the sacrament to dissenting Catholic lawmakers, yet he is seen as an outspoken defender of church orthodoxy in a style favored by many theological conservatives. — from the thread US bishops elect NYC archbishop as head in upset (Catholic bloggers blamed) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2711746/posts?page=289#289


39 posted on 03/09/2014 8:04:19 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Cardinal Dolan has betrayed his flock.

Jesus was very specific about the need to stop sinning in order to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

The difference between judging and making a value judgment should be understood by the good Cardinal. He should teach it. But apparently not.

If there is no sin, then there must be no reward for a life of faith and virtue.

Moral relativism ... from the church? They did not learn that from Jesus or the Apostles.


40 posted on 03/09/2014 9:45:50 PM PDT by JT Hatter (Who is Barack Obama? And What is He Really Up To?)
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