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Kevin Drum: Right-Wingers Desperately Deny 'Anything Even Slightly Positive' About Obamacare
Newsbusters ^ | 4/13/2014 | Tom Johnson

Posted on 04/13/2014 4:22:17 PM PDT by markomalley

Imagine a Yankees-Red Sox game during which the Yankees broadcasters acknowledged mistakes by their team and good plays by the Sox, while the Boston announcers ranted relentlessly that the Yankees stank and were lucky not to finish 0-162.
 
According to Kevin Drum of Mother Jones, something similar happens routinely in political media. Drum believes that both in general and regarding Obamacare specifically, liberal pundits are far more likely than their conservative counterparts to discuss their side's failures and give the other side credit where it's due.

From Drum's Friday post (emphasis added):

"Watch the right search desperately for bad news on Obamacare," says the headline to Michael Hiltzik's piece a couple of days ago about the right, um, desperately searching for bad news on Obamacare. And it's true. Obamacare is a great example of the famous hack gap.

Don't get me wrong. We lefties generally try to portray Obamacare as a success. You won't find Diogenes on either side. But I read lots of lefties who write about health care, and they've generally been willing to acknowledge Obamacare's problems. The federal website rollout was a disaster. The insurance pools so far seem to have fewer of the young and healthy than we'd hoped. Narrow networks are a significant problem, especially in some states. We don't know yet how many Obamacare enrollees were previously uninsured—and in any case, the number appears to be less than CBO projected earlier this year. Etc.

But unless I'm reading the wrong conservatives, you simply see nothing of this sort on the right. Their coverage of Obamacare is simply an endless search for increasingly strained ways to deny that anything even slightly positive has happened. The Obama administration is lying about its numbers. If they're not lying, the figures are meaningless anyway until they've been unskewed. Premiums are skyrocketing. People are being tossed off their plans and thrown in the street. The budget projections are a joke. Cancer patients are dying for lack of doctors to see them. Hours are being cut back and part-time workers are being fired. Fewer people have coverage now than before Obamacare started up.

I could go on. And on. And on. This is the hack gap in all its glory. There's simply no willingness on the right to acknowledge any success at all. And even when they're forced to concede that maybe there are a few people benefiting from Obamacare, it's just an opportunity to rail about Democrats handing out bennies to inner-city moochers like a modern-day Boss Tweed. Welcome to America, ladies and gentlemen.



TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: kevindrum; motherjones; obamacare

1 posted on 04/13/2014 4:22:17 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley
Well, we DO know which GOPe Senators need to be targeted.
2 posted on 04/13/2014 4:23:36 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: markomalley

So tell us ONE positive thing about 0CommieCare, Kevin. ....Waiting....


3 posted on 04/13/2014 4:25:05 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: markomalley

Mother Jones? What does The Nation, Daily Kos, Media Matters and Pravda think?


4 posted on 04/13/2014 4:25:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: markomalley

They say these things to put into people’s minds that there is something good about ZeroCare, and there isn’t.


5 posted on 04/13/2014 4:26:29 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: markomalley

A pile of shi...er...Obamastuff lying in the road has some positives.

Obamacare does not.

Even flies reject it.

Slugs fear it.

Bacteria runs in fear.

And sentient humans recognize it as the product of ill educated clueless morons.


6 posted on 04/13/2014 4:27:50 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: markomalley

My tax preparer this year gave me a page showing my ACA penalty amounts based on my income for not being insured, which I am.

2013-$652
2014-$1305
2015-$1631


7 posted on 04/13/2014 4:29:46 PM PDT by umgud
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To: markomalley

Hard to conjure much sympathy for leftist whining about their guy and his program being treated unfairly after the way they treated Bush 43.


8 posted on 04/13/2014 4:31:28 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: markomalley

Kev should do stand-up comedy


9 posted on 04/13/2014 4:31:36 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: markomalley

Left-Wingers Desperately Deny ‘Anything Even Slightly Positive’ About Constitutional Government, Personal Liberty, Capitalism, Self-Determination, Personal Responsibility, and Reality.

That’s a much better headline.


10 posted on 04/13/2014 4:32:02 PM PDT by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of liberty only to see marxism elected at home.)
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To: markomalley
Fine.

It hasn't killed me yet.

There, are you happy now?

11 posted on 04/13/2014 4:32:58 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: markomalley

Well its better to be slightly HIV positive than to have full blown AIDS.


12 posted on 04/13/2014 4:33:52 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: markomalley

I lost my employer based health insurance becaose of obamacare and cannot afford anything close to what that coverage was.

I AM POSITIVE ABOUT THAT A$$HAT.


13 posted on 04/13/2014 4:35:12 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: markomalley

Kevin, we think the whole thing sucks and should be repealed in its entirety.


14 posted on 04/13/2014 4:36:26 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: markomalley

Alright Kevin,

Tell me one damn thing that is right about the fed taking over 1/6th of the economy.


15 posted on 04/13/2014 4:38:16 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: markomalley
We could have bought ever uninsured American a better plan for way less many and it wouldn't have screwed up everyone else's insurance.

It was never about insurance anyway. Its about control.

16 posted on 04/13/2014 4:38:20 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk (Hey Newbomb, where's your brothers ElCamino ?)
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To: markomalley
And even when they're forced to concede that maybe there are a few people benefiting from Obamacare, it's just an opportunity to rail about Democrats handing out bennies to inner-city moochers like a modern-day Boss Tweed. Welcome to America, ladies and gentlemen.

It's not my fault you consider redistribution of my wages to be a good thing and I do not.

It's not my fault that insurance, once considered risk-based, has been watered down to simple collectivism, and you consider that a good thing, and I do not.
17 posted on 04/13/2014 4:38:57 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: markomalley

One end of the turd still has a nice shine to it. How’s that?


18 posted on 04/13/2014 4:39:04 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: markomalley
Kevin Drum: Right-Wingers Desperately Deny confirm 'Anything Even Slightly Positive' About Obamacare

There, fixed it.

5.56mm

19 posted on 04/13/2014 4:39:07 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: cripplecreek

Is that you Cartman?


20 posted on 04/13/2014 4:39:31 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: markomalley

We’ll you can’t affirm something that doesn’t exist


21 posted on 04/13/2014 4:47:20 PM PDT by SendShaqtoIraq (Teresa Davis)
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To: eyedigress

When you’re chewin on life’s gristle, don’t grumble. Give a whistle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlBiLNN1NhQ


22 posted on 04/13/2014 4:48:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: markomalley

And left wingers refuse to say anything nice about President Bush..so libs..shut your face


23 posted on 04/13/2014 4:51:06 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: markomalley

The difference is that we KNEW who Urkel was, we KNEW what socialized medicine was and we SCREAMED for everyone to get out of the way of the abomination that this president has caused.

By your reasoning we need to give the assassin credit for missing his shot at your head after we did everything but beg you to duck.


24 posted on 04/13/2014 4:51:54 PM PDT by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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To: markomalley
There has been only one positive.
Gun sales.
And it is constitution defending Patriots who are buying the most.

All I see in future is war.
At least the Militia is well armed.
Pray that our nation has a spiritual revival.
Pray our nation returns to Israels aid, and stops meddling in Gods plans.
There is not a chance of a two state solution over there.
The Palestinians should be eradicated.
God, through Jesus Christ, is our only hope.

25 posted on 04/13/2014 4:52:15 PM PDT by right way right (America has embraced the suck of Freedumb.)
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To: markomalley

Let’s just use the term “Conservatives who believe in the Constitution”, Kevin. This helps makes it clear why we do not find anything “positive” about a law that is contrary to founding principles, the law of the land, and the will of the people.

Hope this helps, Kevin. Ya pinhead.


26 posted on 04/13/2014 4:53:57 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: markomalley

Ya can’t pick up a turd by the clean end.


27 posted on 04/13/2014 5:00:03 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: markomalley
Right-Wingers Desperately Deny 'Anything Even Slightly Positive' About Obamacare

No desperation at all, in fact it's quite easy to ignore that which does not exist, i.e., anything, even the slightest positive about ObamaCare.

28 posted on 04/13/2014 5:08:35 PM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: markomalley

“Captain Smith, the Californan has wired a message that heavy ice lay ahead and they’ve stopped to wait out the night. Furthermore, the dead calm waters won’t make any whitecaps at the base of an iceberg tonight. Also, the lookouts have no binoculars.”

“Mr. Lightoller, why must you so desperately seek out all the negatives? Can’t you tell me how the gentlemen are enjoying the first class smoking room, or how the ladies view the Parisian cafe?

Full speed ahead!”


29 posted on 04/13/2014 5:16:43 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: markomalley

Sorry, Kevin Drum, but that’s out of balance reporting.

Liberals and socialists find things wrong with ObamaCare for 2 reasons:

1. It’s undeniably broken

2. They have been hurt by it or they know of those who have. It’s personal.

Conservatives don’t find anything positive about ObamaCare because those things touted as “positive” are generally: (a) preexisting conditions, (b) parents insurance until 26, and (c) coverage of those without insurance (d) portability

(a) There were state pools providing preexisting condition coverage prior to ObamaCare. And the way preexisting conditions have been averaged into the cost is part of why premiums are exorbitant.

(b) A 26 year old shouldn’t be on parent’s insurance policy. Additionally, that’s one of the mistakes in the system that is driving up costs. Why be young and paying for insurance when for zero dollars you can simply be on mom’s or dad’s?

(c) There actually was coverage prior to ObamaCare. Folks went to the hospitals and they were helped. That’s what they’re STILL doing because costs are so extreme, the formerly uncovered who want coverage can’t afford it.

(d) Portability. Insurance portability for those with conditions requiring it existed prior to ObamaCare. In 1985, Congress enacted a bill known as the Consolidated Omnibus Reconciliation Act, or COBRA. This legislation ensured that all eligible employees have the option to continue receiving their current insurance without any interruption of coverage stemming from an involuntary job loss or a cut in full-time hours.

So, conservatives don’t find anything of value in ObamaCare because there is nothing of value in ObamaCare. Not because they’re partisan.


30 posted on 04/13/2014 5:23:01 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: markomalley

Anything slightly positive which means you have to dig deep and when you do it might not be there


31 posted on 04/13/2014 5:36:12 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: markomalley

What, exactly, is positive about it?


32 posted on 04/13/2014 6:00:21 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The best way to control opposition is to lead it ourselves." -- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin)
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To: markomalley

There is nothing good in any tyrannical law.


33 posted on 04/13/2014 6:12:39 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: markomalley

when a federal program mandated by law covering 330,000,000 people only has 7m ‘voluntarily’ signing up.... what does that say?

it’s the largest vote of no-confidence I’ve seen in my lifetime.

98% of the country effectively told the fedgov to shove it


34 posted on 04/13/2014 7:15:42 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: markomalley
"Watch the right search desperately for bad news on Obamacare," says the headline to Michael Hiltzik's piece a couple of days ago about the right, um, desperately searching for bad news on Obamacare. And it's true. Obamacare is a great example of the famous hack gap.

Why would anyone expect a rational person actually to read something that begins with that paragraph?

Desperately?
Really?

Obamacare generates bad news non-stop, all by itself. No searching necessary.
Perhaps the frustrated liberal writers means we should stop noticing and talking about it?

Well, that can't happen because the whole plan was so ill conceived and incompetently executed that it can't possibly work. But it's still costing us millions$ a day.

Not much sense repeating how many people lost their insurance, how much it's costing everybody and how the most critical 20% of the entire Obamacare web site at would make it actually work was simply not written!
No sense talking about the endless litany of lies from Obamarobots telling us how great it is and how everybody can get health care at no cost and it'll work great sometime in 2035...

35 posted on 04/13/2014 7:28:20 PM PDT by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: markomalley

I


36 posted on 04/13/2014 9:25:16 PM PDT by daku (Vin will now lament the fact that no one likes the flavor of dog crap.)
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To: markomalley
And what exactly is positive about it dear sir?
37 posted on 04/13/2014 9:26:27 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: markomalley

Real Americans:I know there is much to learn from each other if we can make a truce. We can find a way to Co-exist. can there be a peace between us?

Domestic marxist Democrat Party: Peace? NO PEACE!

Real Americans: What is it you want us to do?

Domestic marxist Democrat Party: Die…die…


38 posted on 04/13/2014 9:32:08 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: SendShaqtoIraq

The endless droning of the obamacare-failure deniers gets tedious after a while.


39 posted on 04/14/2014 6:00:39 AM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: markomalley

I’m sure that if any person were having a positive experience with Obamacare that they’d be featured in an ad campaign.

I haven’t seen such, so no such person really exists.


40 posted on 04/14/2014 6:02:53 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: markomalley

That’s because we’re realists. None of us look at a big bag of excrement and think that at least it doesn’t smell as bad as it could.


41 posted on 04/14/2014 6:07:13 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: markomalley

A lot of people I know will say they can now keep their kids on their health plan until age 26. They just don’t get it that obama isn’t giving them anything. It’s the parents and the parent’s employer who is picking up the tab. People sure are stupid.


42 posted on 04/14/2014 6:09:26 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: markomalley
Drum believes that both in general and regarding Obamacare specifically, liberal pundits are far more likely than their conservative counterparts to discuss their side's failures and give the other side credit where it's due.

Drum obviously took the brown acid at Woodstock.

43 posted on 04/14/2014 6:20:37 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

IOW, even though the partisan media shill regurgitating that swill can’t name one good thing that has happened as a result of Obamacare, he still claims that *we’re* the ones ignoring the positive. What a demagogue.

Thanks markomalley.


44 posted on 04/14/2014 8:32:14 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: clearcarbon

????


45 posted on 04/14/2014 2:34:27 PM PDT by SendShaqtoIraq (Teresa Davis)
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