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RED RIVER RUMBLE? BLM Wants to Seize 90,000 Acres of Texas Ranchers’ Land!
Americas Freedom Fighters ^ | April 11, 2014 | Clark Kent

Posted on 04/13/2014 5:55:42 PM PDT by Texas Fossil

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To: greeneyes

“Now one could argue I suppose that the amount of new land on the south bank actually belongs to the rancher to the north...”

There is NO new land - it was there all the time, just had water over it. The line should stay where it has always been, water over it or not. That’s what I think, bet Att. General Abbott thinks the same thing.


101 posted on 04/13/2014 8:43:43 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Marcella
I think the AG would have the responsibility to defend the agreement reached between OK and TX which was approved of by the federal Congress.

No where in there is there room for the BLM.

/johnny

102 posted on 04/13/2014 8:44:36 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

How long do you think it would take for Texas Rednecks to solidly cover that whole area with their bodies and their weapons? There would be so many of them, they would be in ranks behind each other. And, I can see Attorney General Abbott in his wheelchair in front of them with his weapon drawn.


103 posted on 04/13/2014 8:47:28 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: TigersEye

Bookmark for later reading.


104 posted on 04/13/2014 8:51:13 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Marcella
I would hope it never came to that.

There is no profit for the federal employees in getting bitch-slapped back into a corner, over and over again.

Someone in FedGov should recognize that it's time for cooler heads to prevail, while it still looks like they matter.

/johnny

105 posted on 04/13/2014 8:51:50 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin
I don’t understand this. Texas and Oklahoma have a long standing dispute over a boundary so the feds just claim it as theirs?

There WAS a "long-standing dispute over the boundary". But it was resolved in 1999 (I believe) when GWB and the Oklahoma governor signed an interstate compact settling the matter.

The Feds were NOT involved.

106 posted on 04/13/2014 8:54:12 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media -- IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Marcella

A sight to see.


107 posted on 04/13/2014 8:56:20 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: cripplecreek; MeshugeMikey; Diogenes; All

The BFLM is currently a more accurate abbreviation of the BLM.

The BFLM is the abbreviation for the Bureau of FEUDAL Land Management.

Feudalism is what Europe was based on, and if it was good enough for Europe, then it is good enough for America! FORWARD!

Currently, the purpose of the BFLM is to provide land, free of charge, to the Commune-organized Obamanation to do with as the ruling Senate and Administration Feudal Lord Democrats see fit.

Predictions are that the cave-in Doormat Republican Leaders will, as usual, just huff and puff on TV, as required by the 2 year Congressional No Fight Contract that Pelosi, Reid and Obama have forced them to sign.


108 posted on 04/13/2014 8:57:30 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Marcella

Well, I agree, but that would be too simple. The deeds were apparently written referencing the banks of the river. And was legally defined as the vegetation line on the south bank to settle the dispute regarding the state line.

Such a definition is crappy, because it actually means that the line changes as the river changes. And the actual amount of land changes as well, so apparently there is additional acreage on the southern side and less on the north.

An adequate description would function as you stated, and the amount of acreage would not change, but the location of the river would.

I have a deed to property that starts in the middle of a creek bed and west from there, so I have a somewhat similar problem. The state owns land located from the middle of the creek and the eastern side.

When the creek changes east or west, my boundary line would change so that it’s in the middle of the current path of the creek.


109 posted on 04/13/2014 9:19:23 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Marcella

God Bless Texas and their AG.


110 posted on 04/13/2014 9:20:58 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Tammy8
environmentalists have been in bed with the government and using every excuse under the sun.

Look at the resumes of this group in the middle of the recent Bundy-BLM standoff/land grab in Nevada, especially notice the colleges and universities where most of them went: Biological Diversity

111 posted on 04/13/2014 9:29:05 PM PDT by boxlunch (Psalm 2)
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To: Texas Fossil

This would be a chance for Perry, Strauss, Dewhurst and Abbott to show what they’re made of.


112 posted on 04/13/2014 9:29:47 PM PDT by Rockpile
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To: nanetteclaret

Ping to a story which should interest you!


113 posted on 04/13/2014 9:32:04 PM PDT by boxlunch (Psalm 2)
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To: JRandomFreeper

We’d be likely to cancel the feud over something like this.
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The Longhorns vs. Sooners ‘feud’ will remain.

In recent years, the Okies have become probably the closest ally of Texans, with regard to politics and States rights!

Lake Texhoma is fed by the Red River. The State’s borders meet in the middle of the big lake and have nothing to do with the shorelines. .........A good friend was ticketed there while fishing. An OK fish and game officer found him to be over that “line” and with only a TX fishing license.


114 posted on 04/14/2014 12:31:28 AM PDT by octex
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To: greeneyes; Marcella

“When the creek changes east or west, my boundary line would change so that it’s in the middle of the current path of the creek.”

And the MOST important thing, is that you, and the people out west, still have access to the water. Although not sure how that works if it only extends to the brush line? Perhaps there is another river nearby to the south to provide for the Texans.

If it was me, and the feds wanted to get the land between me and my backyard neighbor (the jerk!), I’m pretty sure that we would BOTH figure something out between ourselves to keep the feds out of our backyards. (Hey - I’m a “NIMBY”!)


115 posted on 04/14/2014 12:53:43 AM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: Texas Fossil; All

I can tell you it won’t happen in TX.
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Agree. I believe Rick Perry, AG Greg Abbott and the Texas Rangers would not sit on their hands like the dorks in the NV government did regarding the Bundy Ranch.


116 posted on 04/14/2014 12:53:57 AM PDT by octex
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To: 21twelve

Perhaps there is another river nearby to the south to provide for the Texans.
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I have no idea what that means.

The Red River is a “border” river. It begins at the Eastern base of the TX Panhandle, separating OK, small portion of SW AR and then forms the Western LA border before it empties into the Gulf of MX just East of Port Arthur TX.

The subject of the thread is the land grab more than access to water, although water is very important to the ranchers and farmers.


117 posted on 04/14/2014 1:46:34 AM PDT by octex
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To: 21twelve

Well, I am sure that there is a due process, for the government to take it. My neighbor happens to be the State of Missouri. Their property on the East is a narrow strip of land that is the right of way for a state highway.

USA keeps trying to redefine stuff to give Fedzilla control of all internal water ways. I am not sure how long that type of stuff can be defeated, since the Government seems to have early onset dementia.


118 posted on 04/14/2014 5:22:21 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: octex

and then forms the Western LA border before it empties into the Gulf of MX
just East of Port Arthur TX.

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Not that it matters a lot but the Red isn’t the Western border of LA. It enters
LA east of I-49 and Shreveport and flows south east through Alexandria and finally
ends when it meets the Atachalafaya - Mississippi river basin on the eastern
side of LA north of I-10 some 50 plus miles.


119 posted on 04/14/2014 5:49:45 AM PDT by deport
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To: Rockpile

I already know what they are made of. They all are Texans.

And they all know it.

Put Ted Cruz on the team and we have a formidable staff.


120 posted on 04/14/2014 6:09:56 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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