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Attention Any FReeper Lawyers;Real Estate/Bankruptcy (Ch13 to CH7)Need Trusted Answers Please
Self ^ | 05/09/14 | Self

Posted on 05/09/2014 5:15:15 AM PDT by mabarker1

O.K. I'm reaching out for help from people that I can trust.

I need somebody with knowledge in Bankruptcy/Chapter 13 going to Chapter 7 and Real Estate Laws.

My Girlfriend has the Family house and they are trying to take it.

Her ONLY vehicle is also involved. I can't drive anymore so I have no vehicle. So if they take the truck She can't get to work, Doctors, etc.

The only notice received at this time has been an E-Mail (from Her "Lawyer" who from what I know is basically USELESS) within the last hour. No Process Server, No Certified/Registered mail, No Legal Documents Yet.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; Reference
KEYWORDS: bankruptcy; chapter13; chapter7; legalhelp
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To: mabarker1

If the 13 didn’t work then its probably a blessing to switch to 7. The fresh start is relief. The attorney likely knew the 13 would fail but was dealing with clients in denial about their circumstances. Its not unusual for 13 to fail.


21 posted on 05/09/2014 6:07:54 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa

OK

So as far as I can tell (all this just got dumped on me just over an hour ago) this mess is being changed from CH13 to CH7 and “they” are going to seize the house in PA and sell it off.


22 posted on 05/09/2014 6:14:14 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!! Once again dingy hairball, STFU!!! You corrupt POS!!!)
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To: Raycpa
clients in denial about their circumstances.

When you say clients whom are you referring to?

23 posted on 05/09/2014 6:16:17 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!! Once again dingy hairball, STFU!!! You corrupt POS!!!)
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To: mabarker1

Sounds like the trustee is trying to convert it to a 7 to make it go away. You can cancel a 13 at any time but that may not stop the court. There are very strict rules that vary from state to state about his. What jurisdiction was the 13 filed in?


24 posted on 05/09/2014 6:19:05 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: mabarker1

Your gf.


25 posted on 05/09/2014 6:19:46 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: mad_as_he$$

NC


26 posted on 05/09/2014 6:20:37 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!! Once again dingy hairball, STFU!!! You corrupt POS!!!)
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To: mabarker1

Ok so that lawyer is saying that the house in PA is being seized to pay off the debts?

In EVERY state you can keep one vehicle, one gun, some cash and a varying amount of when you file. I think there is something very wrong with what is going on here. You friend may not have been honest with the court or most likely the lawyer blew it


27 posted on 05/09/2014 6:24:56 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Raycpa

She is not in denial. She has been trying to do the right thing.

Have had 2 deaths in family in 2 years leading to many $$$ going to those services and transportation of deceased out of NC to 2 other states for burial. Do you have any idea how much that crap costs?

She busts Her ass everyday at work.

Her Mother is 90 and has had to move in with us for medical/safety reasons. I have to keep an eye on Her all the time. OCD/Alzhimers/balance problems and denial just to list a few things.

I am disabled and filing for SSDI for over a year. That is being denied because I’m the wrong race. I can’t find/keep a job due to the problem with my feet. Max time I can be on them is at most a couple of hours.

Not to mention vehicle breakdowns costing several thousand $$$.

And rent/bills/food/meds/gas...

You ever hear the phrase:

It’s hard to drain the swamp when you are up to your ass in aligators?

We live it 24/7/365

I AM NOT defending Her just because She is My GF.

THE SYSTEM SUCKS!!!! One tries to work within it and one get F’ED!


28 posted on 05/09/2014 6:36:52 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!! Once again dingy hairball, STFU!!! You corrupt POS!!!)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Yes house in PA and the only Vehicle that is here in NC.

I'm just getting involved in this. I'm waiting for paperwork She has at the office so I can read it and play catchup.

She is as Honest as they come.

Yes, something is definitely wrong here. I just need to get up to speed on the whole thing.

I'm leaning towards a “legal aide” has been running this mess not the lawyer.

29 posted on 05/09/2014 6:42:36 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!! Once again dingy hairball, STFU!!! You corrupt POS!!!)
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To: Scoutmaster

Ditto


30 posted on 05/09/2014 6:44:44 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: mabarker1

Depends on where she lives. What State?


31 posted on 05/09/2014 6:45:51 AM PDT by octex
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To: mabarker1

She is working her but off and still cannot make ch 13 payments? If so she is in denial about her ability to pay.


32 posted on 05/09/2014 6:46:30 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: octex

Live in NC

House in PA


33 posted on 05/09/2014 6:48:59 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!! Once again dingy hairball, STFU!!! You corrupt POS!!!)
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To: mabarker1

If she does not make house payments she will eventually lose house to foreclosure. Some lenders are quicker than others

She should try to renegotiate the loan if she thinks she can make payments in future

Houss will be dealt with bankruptcy or not

Worst
Case
She will survive and start over takes time


34 posted on 05/09/2014 6:50:16 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: mabarker1

...is behind on payments...
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But in post #5 you said the house was long paid off. ????


35 posted on 05/09/2014 6:50:54 AM PDT by octex
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To: morphing libertarian

Foreclosure may take 4
Months or more
After she receives
Notice of default

When they file
Foreosurse they will evict her


36 posted on 05/09/2014 6:53:11 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: octex

This is NOT about a loan/note on the house.

She filed a CH13 several years ago. I don’t have details yet as She has the paperwork at the office. She is bringing the file home tonight so I can read all the crap and catch up.


37 posted on 05/09/2014 6:54:04 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!! Once again dingy hairball, STFU!!! You corrupt POS!!!)
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To: morphing libertarian

Doesn’t live in the house in PA, Her Mother used to but is now in NC with US due to medical/safety reasons as posted up thread.


38 posted on 05/09/2014 6:56:00 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!! Once again dingy hairball, STFU!!! You corrupt POS!!!)
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To: mabarker1

I am NOT a lawyer. I own - have first lien - the mortgages on six properties through my IRA. Four of my borrowers are under bankruptcy protection. Here’s the way it works: the debtor applies for, and receives, protection. The court appoints a lawyer to act as bankruptcy trustee. The trustee manages the debt resolution plan designed by the trustee and approved by the court. The debtor turns over to the trustee all income. The trustee pays debts (minus a set percentage as a fee) to all creditors under the bankruptcy plan. That is Chapter 13. Now, if the debtor cannot forward all income to the trustee the debtor loses all protection and may be forced to forfeit all protected assets. So, there’s more to this story than you either know or choose to share. If your girlfriend can’t send money to the trustee the trustee is bound by law to inform the court. Has she lost her job? So, here are her options: she can get a new source of income ASAP to satisfy the bankruptcy plan. Option 2, depending on the numbers, is to sell the house, pay off the mortgage and other debts to start fresh. Yes, she’ll be broke, but she’ll be a lot happier than she is now. Here’s my only question: how much $ are you kicking in to help her?


39 posted on 05/09/2014 6:58:20 AM PDT by Repulican Donkey
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To: mabarker1

Who actually owns the house?


40 posted on 05/09/2014 6:58:31 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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