[Kartographer]

When Selco speaks wise preppers listen.

[Kartographer]

Preppers PING!!

[SgtHooper]

The survival instinct under such conditions is not too far removed from one employee being asked to “stand up for” another employee in some work dispute. When livelihood may be on the line, you find out who your friends are! The same goes for survival. I wrestle with this as well. Do I spend the additional thousands to prepare for others who I have already accepted into my group? I guess in answer to my own question, I need to ask these questions now, by inquiring of these people how well prepared are they now.

[Cboldt]

A person who needs all the fingers on one hand to count his true friends, is pretty lucky. Don't expect to have a big circle of close friends. The team can be pretty big, but that's a managed affair, not a friendship affair.

Good point about family - people tend to be way too rosy on that view.

[mountainlion]

Group dynamics is important. With the flood and fires in my area people have already had experience working together. There is one person that I know not to trust. There are three other felons I need to find out about. There are a couple of big groups that formed and some smaller groups of friends. Politics did not matter so much but dealing with the problems at hand were the effort. There are troublemakers and sneak theirs in the area but group dynamics can control them. The people that flew out an evacuated the area left the keys to their homes with friends and said to take their food or whatever was needed.

[redhawk.44mag]

What was your shtf that was so bad?

[berdie]

I always find your threads informative and interesting.

I am probably way to fatalistic. I stay prepared to the best of my ability but looking at the mobs at Walmart on Black Friday...what possible force could one have against people fighting for food for their families...or themselves.

I can’t honestly say that I want to be here to see the deterioration of trust and the spectacle that would ensue.

[trisham]

"The bravest are surely those who have the clearest vision
of what is before them, glory and danger alike,
and yet notwithstanding, go out to meet it."

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[LadyBuck]

You don’t need a war to see how people really behave and who to trust - just have a death in the family and watch vulture relatives fight over the STUFF.

Now imagine how those same people would act in a true SHTF scenario...

[bgill]

We had prowlers in the neighborhood last week for a few nights and that brought to light (as if I didn’t already have them pegged) who you do not want in your group. I called the neighbors to warn them and a couple of the city folk totally wimped out and hid under their beds. Disgusting. I tried to shame them telling them of the 90 year old disabled widow lady on a nearby street who chased the bad guys off her porch with a shot gun but the morons adjusted their rose colored glasses and pratically called me a liar. These pansy a-hats would sell anyone out in a minute. This event was eye opening on several levels not just on the sell outs but how some are so clueless they put targets on themselves and their property.

[CodeToad]

Loyalty ends where desperation begins.

[novemberslady]

Thanks for posting

[TMSuchman]

4 Reasons To Add a Pellet Air Gun To Your Survival Gun Arsenal
March 9, 2011 By Creek 121 Comments

You read the heading correct – I said Pellet Gun. Yes, the kind powered by air – just 1 step above a BB gun. I own many guns of many calibers and styles for many different purposes. Among these is a good quality Pellet Air Gun and it’s not just because I still have it from when I was a kid. I INTENTIONALLY have added this gun to my survival rifle options for very specific reasons…which I have detailed below. If you’ve never considered a Pellet Gun as a survival rifle option, you might change your mind after reading this post.

Next to my 12 Gauge Mossberg and my Ruger 10-22 sits a very cool and collected Benjamin Sheridan 392 .22 caliber Multi-Pump Pellet Gun and I treat it with the same respect as it is a very specialized soldier in my arsenal.
Benjamin Sheridan 392 .22 Cal Multi-Pump Pellet Gun

Benjamin Sheridan 392 .22 Cal Multi-Pump Pellet Gun

As a student and instructor of survival living, I take my gun choices very seriously and only add one to my cabinet if it deserves to be there. Below are 4 reasons (in no particular order) why a Pellet Gun deserves to be including in your Survival Rifle selection:
Survival Reason # 1: Excellent Small Game Hunter

A pellet gun, especially .22 caliber, is an excellent weapon to take down small game. While people have taken larger game such as wild boars with air guns, they are best suited for small game. Hunting small game is perfect for any survivalist. Rabbit, squirrel, dove, quail, duck and the like are excellent food sources and are readily available in most of the country. With practice, hunting small game with a pellet gun is absolutely no problem.
Small Game Hunter

Small Game Hunter

I have taken many small game animals with my .22 cal pellet gun. It requires better stalking skills, but that is a good skill to learn anyway. It requires better shooting skills, but that is also a good skill to hone in on. Hunting with a pellet gun will force you to be a BETTER hunter and it will also put dinner on the table. For an interesting photo gallery of pellet gun hunting kills visit: http://www.adventuresinairguns.com/gallery56-i-12.html
Survival Reason # 2: The AMMO

The Pellet Gun’s AMMO is one of the more convincing reasons to have one on hand. Pellets, no matter the caliber, are very cheap.
.177 cal Pellets - 500 Count for $10

.177 cal Pellets - 500 Count for $10

You can buy 100s of pellets for just a few bucks. Spend $50 and you’ve got enough to last a lifetime of small game hunting. If all hell breaks loose, traditional ammunition will become increasingly difficult to get your hands on. Not to mention that it will be ridiculously expensive. If the world we live in ever gets this way, why waste your traditional ammo on hunting squirrel or other small game? That would be wasteful and careless if there was a smarter way. There is – PELLETS.
1000s of Pellets Fit into Small Spaces

1000s of Pellets Fit into Small Spaces

Not only are pellets DIRT CHEAP, they are very small. You can carry 1000s and not even know they are there. You can store 10s of 1000s in just 1 shoe box. To top it off, pellets have a shelf life of pretty much FOREVER! Traditional ammunition can go bad over time. Especially with the talks of giving ammunition an expiration date, stocking a few 1000 pellets isn’t a bad idea.

Worse case scenario you could use all these extra pellets to reload your shot-gun shells.
Reload Empty Shotgun Shells With Pellets

Reload Empty Shotgun Shells With Pellets

Survival Reason # 3: Silent Shooter

Forget the earplugs. These guns are silent. In many survival scenarios, a silent weapon is a good thing. Not only can you hunt without drawing attention to yourself or your family, but shooting a silent weapon often means you can get off more than 1 shot if there are multiple targets. Both of these are positive. People pay 1000s of $$$ to make their guns silent. No extra charge for the pellet gun.
Survival Reason # 4: Powered By Air

You don’t have to buy air. And, it’s never going to be out of stock. For this reason, I prefer either a MULTI-PUMP or BREAK-BARREL Pellet Air Gun. I have opted NOT to purchase a CO2 or pneumatic powered air gun. Needing to refill canisters or tanks doesn’t make any sense in a survival situation. You want to keep it as old fashioned as possible. It’s hand pump all the way for this survivalist.
Break-Barrel Survival Pellet Guns

Break-Barrel Survival Pellet Guns

There are tons of options when it comes to Hand Pump or Break Barrel guns. They both come in .177 and .22 calibers. The fps varies depending on the gun. My Multi-Pump Sheridan shoots 850 fps but there are models out there that shoot upwards of 1250 fps which rivals some rim-fire cartridges. Like anything, the details are personal choices. However, I definitely suggest a PUMP or BREAK-BARREL so that you can manually charge your air chamber rather than being dependant on other air supply products.

So there you have it, 4 solid reasons why I keep a Pellet Gun in my survival arsenal.

I hope this has been useful information and as always I would love you hear your thoughts and comments.

Cheers-

Creek

A good read