Skip to comments.Republicans Won't Impeach Obama -- and Democrats Will Not Abandon Him
Posted on 06/09/2014 7:42:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
RUSH: Andy McCarthy, a good friend of mine, has a book out called Faithless Execution. It's about the impeachment of Obama. In fact, wasn't it said by some Democrat -- I forget who -- "If Obama does this again --" after the Bergdahl thing -- or maybe it was some Republican who said it, was it Lindsey Graham? "If he does this again, we're gonna impeach him." Drawing our own red lines. And Andy, in his book, makes the point that we have long ago crossed the legal threshold for impeachment.
It's clear that the legal threshold has been met, but there is no political will to do it. And without that, it's a waste of time, if you don't have the political will. Meaning, if the Republican Party doesn't have the gonads, and if the American people are not desirous of it, then it's just whistling into the wind. It's something irrelevant.
Now, Paul Bedard, writing here at the Washington Examiner: "Despite anger in many quarters of the nation over the president's prisoner swap, Republicans are backing off impeachment threats because they fear it would rally President Obama's Democratic base and kill the GOP's chances to win the Senate. ... A top Republican aide added, 'that is an accurate assessment. The Democrats are divided on so many issues right now there's no reason to give them a reason to rally.'"
So it isn't gonna happen
RUSH: To Salem, Oregon. Jerry, great to have you on the program, sir. Hello.
CALLER: Oh, good morning, Mr. Limbaugh. Or is it good afternoon in your neck of the woods?
RUSH: That's exactly right, sir. Thank you for the calling.
CALLER: You know, this prisoner exchange thing? The saddest thing about war is that men die for their country. And when you accede to ransom demands, you're just making a super slap in the face of every person who's died for this country, and to me it's intolerable. I don't understand why people aren't discussing giving aid and comfort to the enemy. That is treason, and George Washington literally hung people for such a thing. I don't get it.
RUSH: Well, people are discussing it, but what do you want whom to do?
CALLER: What do I want who to do?
RUSH: Yeah, or whom do you want to do what?
CALLER: I would like to see the people of this country and the Republican leadership show a backbone. Impeachment would be letting Obama off easy, and even if there's no political will, the right thing to do is the right thing to do -- not because you win or lose, but because it is the right thing to do -- and impeaching him is the right thing to do.
RUSH: Well, I can tell you right now that the Republicans are not gonna do it.
RUSH: The Republicans have got themselves convinced that they're gonna win the Senate right now. They're gonna hold the House. They've convinced themselves. Hell, even Nate Silver says they're gonna win the Senate. It's tight, but they think they're gonna win the Senate. They are literally paranoid of doing anything that they think might reassemble and reinvigorate the Obama base.
To them it's about winning, and it's about themselves getting control of the purse strings and reinserting themselves in power. Now, there's a story by Ron Fournier who has really, in recent weeks... I don't know what the term is. I was gonna say dumping on Obama, and I guess that's as close as anything to what it is. But his piece today is: "'I've Had Enough.' When Democrats Quit on Obama," and it's not about Fournier.
It's another Democrat talking to him, who said that he's just had it. This Bergdahl swap, that's just the last straw, but not because of the swap itself. "The tipping point for this person was the Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl case [and] how the White House mishandled its obligation to communicate effectively and honestly to Congress and the public. More than that, Obama's team had failed once again to acknowledge its mistakes, preferring to cast blame and seek cover behind talking points," and the parents.
So even though there is a credible bit of evidence that more and more Democrats... Oh, about the Fournier piece. One thing needs to be pointed out. Even the Democrats in this piece who say that they have had it, that this is a tipping point and they are finally they're moving away from Obama, still go to great pains to say they like and respect him. So you have to temper all this.
See, I think you have to be careful. It's very seductive to see a story that says Democrats are abandoning Obama. They're not. They're not gonna abandon Obama especially if it means Republicans winning anything. There's about as fat a chance of that happening as the media converting and becoming supporters of conservatives and Republicans. That isn't going to happen, either.
The Democrats are not going to abandon Obama. Why are they upset that he lied to them? He lies to all of them. Well, it's because in this case the press didn't provide any cover. So the lie is exposed. They have to react to it. Nobody's out there saying, "Obama didn't lie. Obama didn't do anything wrong." So they have to go on record as disapproving of this. If anything, it is indicative of where the Democrats still think the country's bread and butter is.
It's not extreme liberalism. I mean, if you've got a Democrat who... Even with an election coming, if you've got an elected Democrat who thinks there are points to be gained or ground to be gained by distancing himself from Obama, what are you saying? You're saying this country's not gone yet. I still maintain that we're being governed (or ruled, if you will) by a really small minority. There are just little bits of evidence here and there that prove it.
Here's Mike in Colorado Springs. You're next. Glad you waited, sir. Welcome to the program. Hi.
CALLER: Yes. Thank you, Rush. It's an honor and a privilege to talk with you.
RUSH: I appreciate that. Thank you.
CALLER: I would like to point out one more of about a billion examples of hypocrisy coming out of the administration. If they're encouraging these people to come across the border illegally or undocumentedly, there's a couple points about this. Number one, the amount of risk that people are taking to do so. I mean, they're dealing with coyotes and human traffickers.
CALLER: They're probably dealing with drug cartels. These are not bright, upstanding people that work in the embassy. Second of all, in these countries like Mexico or others with a dismal record on human rights, it's really more or less encouraging them to continue their policies instead of having people point out to them that they're doing something wrong.
RUSH: Who's doing something wrong?
CALLER: Well, if you have an administration that says, "Hey, you're violating human rights in your country," you know, there's a force behind that. The United States can take action against that, whether it's sanctions or just using the bully pulpit to work with them and try to make a difference, encouraging people within their own country to say, "Hey, you should be living at a better standard."
RUSH: You think...? Wait a minute. I don't want to sound critical, but you think the Obama administration gonna do that?
CALLER: Oh, no. They wouldn't. But I'm saying they can't do it now. That's total, total hypocrisy, them being unable to bring any points up.
RUSH: Well, hypocrisy never stopped them from doing anything, but they're not gonna do it because they don't think we've got the moral authority to tell anybody else about human rights because we violate them so much.
and both parties will let Obama keep the White House as a retirement gift
Of course not - 0bama will skate and the MSM will have his back and he’ll be a hero who fought against Republicans and Conservatives and won; in the meantime, he destroyed America.
I believe that with a big enough Republican win in the general election, the DEMOCRATS will be behind the push to impeach Obama.
He is their figurehead. Get rid of the figurehead, and make it look like you started over.
Cowards and traitors.
Taliban Mullah in Chief Hussein Obama has chosen Secretary of Defending the Taliban Hagel to continue to make Grand Bargains with Gitmo Prisoners so that Gitmo can be closed on the last day that all US Military Personnel finally abandon Afghanistan to the Taliban.
This president could appear on stage with Mr. Rogers bloody head in one hand and a sword in the other and the NYT would follow up with a story painting Rogers as a racist whose programs damaged children of color and caused childhood obesity. (Note: my daughter and wife are “of color” and my great granddad was Mexican). We’re talking about power, not race.
What I’ve taken away from Rush’s programs for the last 2-3 years: It doesn’t matter what happens, it will benefit Obama, and hurt Republicans.
I find myself listening to less and less of him and Mark. I really don’t Rush to tell me that we’re screwed for three hours a day. I can do that myself.
Because of Republican inaction, there won't be a big Republican win.
Unless a huge smoking gun appears in the Benghazi hearing I don't see impeachment connected solely to that issue. But if scandals keep erupting...particularly ones that involve more of Obama breaking the law...I can see impeachment in our future because indpependent support for Obama is way down and even democratic support for Obama is eroding pretty rapidly.
one word RUPLIPUSSIES
Once again snatching defeat from the jaws of victory? The Pubbies inactions are as bad as 0’s actions.
What does our President Bill Ayers think of Bergdahl, or the VA scandal? For Christ's sake, they're sticking it to the military! This is gravy to the radicals!
These guys are just settling scores from the 60s. They'll take as much as they can get until 2017, or they're run out of town.
They mock and laugh at the authority of 'impeachment', like petulant college kids thumbing their noses at the dean.
“I really dont Rush to tell me that were screwed for three hours a day. I can do that myself.”
Well genius, you know the message. Limbaugh is trying to convert millions of other low information voters. Maybe you can let us in on more info since you know it all.
What could possibly go wrong?
Color me shocked. /s
I agree with you, totally. 2015 is the year of impeachment.
“Well genius, you know the message. Limbaugh is trying to convert millions of other low information voters. Maybe you can let us in on more info since you know it all.”
It was an observation, if you don’t like it...tough. ;-)
>Because of Republican inaction, there won’t be a big Republican win.
Could you imagine though, if it did happen, and the Democrats pushed to impeach Obama, AND THE REPUBLICANS SAID NO?
After November the Democrats will turn on Obama like a pack of rabid wolves. It is their only chance in 2016.
The 1998 impeachment worked out real well didn't it?
So not true. That was said in 2010, too and look what happened. Look outside of your own bias.
mmmm.....that’s good kabuki......go back to sleeep america....
It's still fake. No matter what the NYT is or directs or influences, it's still fake, that picture it paints of throngs of liberals across America worshipping Obama. It's like a balsa wood train bridge. It looks really real. The NYT and MSM looks so real! But when the train -- that would be reality -- hits it, it's going down, and the train with it.
Americans are pretty resilient. If we're only one generation away from losing it, we're also a generation within keeping it. I wish Rush believed in Americans. He hates Americans. I hate listening to Rush anymore.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out Rush.
It wasn't said by me in 2010 -- I'm saying it now.
Since 2010, the Republicans have acted worse going after the tea party and utterly failing to articulate a target rich anti Democrat message.
You're wrong and you'd have to be subject to your own biases not to see it.
Anyone with a rudimentary understanding of politics knew McConnell would win. Many of the posters are blind to reality. Now, a McConnell loss would have been fine with me, but I knew he wasn't going to lose and, of course, he didn't. I confess I sometimes make a sport of those who express shock at these elections. These folks immediately transferred themselves to the general election to delight knowing McConnell will lose in November. It isn't going to happen regardless of the currently tied polls.
These are the same people who literally fell apart when Alan Keyes lost primary after primary - they just didn't have a clue as to why someone, anyone could vote for someone else. These folks are so deep into their own world, reality is meaningless.
By all means, I don't want to discourage you from your fantasy that everyone looks at the world like you do. If you really think Aunt Madge in Fishersville, VA is as concerned as you are about the Tea Party being disrespected by the establishment, then be my guest. But beware that only 14% of republicans self identify as being tea party sympathizers (the media won). Yes, I know your response is going to be the polls are wrong and no one representing a poll has ever called me.
What a weird comment. Rush is the messenger. What you wrote is this: I don’t like Rush telling me the republicans won’t impeach Obama. So I am going to pout and turn off the radio. Instead, I want Rush to tell me what I want to hear even if it is not true. I have a feeling you are a former Alan Keyes supporter.
First, please learn what quotation marks are used for. You don’t use quotation marks for things you imagine a person said. They are used for directly quoting another person’s words. I take it you’re not too bright?
I admire Alan Keyes, but no, I was never a supporter.
Okay you think that you are rather objective and I think I'm rather objective. How unexpected.
Postings on this website don't at all reflect common opinion.
Most folks here think Obama and the Democrats are doing a terrible job. That does reflect common opinion.
Recall the surprise and shock here when McConnell won the senate nomination a mere few weeks ago.
No, most folks here knew weeks before that McConnell would likely lose.
Anyone with a rudimentary understanding of politics knew McConnell would win.
No. Anybody with a rudimentary understanding of politics knows that it is very hard but not impossible to beat an incumbent.
Many of the posters are blind to reality.
I'm really not all that impressed with your hold on reality yet. Let's continue and see what else you have.
By all means, I don't want to discourage you from your fantasy that everyone looks at the world like you do. If you really think Aunt Madge in Fishersville, VA is as concerned as you are about the Tea Party being disrespected by the establishment, then be my guest. But beware that only 14% of republicans self identify as being tea party sympathizers (the media won).
Most people don't self identify as Tea Party but on the issues, they more closely agree with the Tea Party compared to Obama and the Democrats.
Yes, I know your response is going to be the polls are wrong and no one representing a poll has ever called me.
Please don't put words into my mouth. You're not smart enough.
As I said because of Republican inaction (and I will add because of their lack of articulation on the issues), there won't be a big Republican win.
The point is that on healthcare, the economy, illegal immigration, all the scandals, spending, foreign policy, love of country and so much more, the Republicans aren't articulating a message and they aren't fighting against the Democrats.
And that's a strategy that is failing and won't produce a big win.
Thank you for your response. Based on the events of last night, I will have to revise my thoughts on what is reality. It IS shocking Cantor lost, and how refreshing. This is the only thing politicians understand.
Perhaps it isn't a waste of time to dream, after all? Do you think the establishment is getting the message we don't want amnesty, etc. and we are begging for someone to articulate a coherent message and show some backbone in challenging Obama.
I was going to ping you with a told-you-so, but your classy post to me made me glad I didn't.