Skip to comments.5 Truths You’re Not Allowed To Say About Gays In America
Posted on 06/12/2014 6:52:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Its hard to have an honest conversation about gay issues because liberals treat anything other than outright celebration of all things gay as hate. That doesnt leave people much room to discuss a complicated issue that involves real human beings who often have to deal with a lot of challenges because of their sexual orientation. If youre a compassionate person, you have to feel some sympathy when you talk to people who are closeted because theyre afraid that their relatives wont accept them or someone who feels isolated and alone because his sexual orientation makes it impossible for him to have a romantic relationship with 98% of the population. Life is hard for most of us and if you know people who are gay, chances are you recognize that its even harder for them.
Yet and still, you cant deny reality because there may be a few people who dont want to hear it. Sure, you dont want to unnecessarily create pain in peoples lives, but ultimately, nothing creates more misery than abandoning common sense because the obvious truth might hurt someones feelings.
1) You cant change your gender: Have you ever heard of Body Integrity Identity Disorder? Long story short, there are people out there who believe theyre supposed to have less limbs. Maybe they want to get rid of an arm or a leg. The problem these people run into is that surgeons consider it unethical to remove a healthy, functioning body part and refuse to saw off their limbs. Instead, they just refer these people to a psychologist. That seems to make sense, doesnt it?
Yet, when we have people who want to mutilate themselves to change their sex, we dont treat that as a mental disorder. Instead, we take it seriously. So seriously in fact, we have 9 year olds getting hormone treatments so they can pretend to be another gender.
If a client went to a doctor and said he thought he was a cow, we wouldnt send him to a surgeon to get horns and udders attached. Yet, you can no more change your sex than you can change into a cow. Even if you have a sex change, your sex hasnt actually changed. A man who mutilates himself to look like a woman, still isnt female. He cant have a child. Very few men are going to knowingly date a man whos surgically mutilated himself to look like a woman. This is a terrible, horrible thing were doing as a society to these mentally ill people. Instead of getting them the mental help they need, were catering to their pathology. Its cruel, its wrong, and a more compassionate society wouldnt wallow so deeply in political correctness that wed allow people to do this to themselves.
2) Some people do choose to be gay: Most Americans tend to believe that people who are gay either choose it OR are born that way. However, the evidence suggests that there tends to more of a range of sexual behavior for people who are gay. Some people are clearly born gay and have always been attracted to the same sex just like most heterosexuals are only interested in contact with the opposite sex. However, there are also people who are more sexually ambiguous and some of them CHOOSE to be gay. If you want to see an actual example of that, heres an excerpt of an interview I did with lesbian talk show host, Tammy Bruce.
John Hawkins: Let me ask a related question to this because I thought this was kind of fascinating because its so different from what you often hear. In the book, you were talking about how you came to decide that you wanted to be a lesbian and you pretty much framed it in those terms. It was a choice. You were attracted to men and women and you chose to you just liked women better would you say thats common or .
Tammy Bruce: Well, its difficult to say because its so politically incorrect to ask these questions. Its one of the reasons why and Ive made that discussion in the epilogue so that parents (could allow) their children (to read) at their discretion.
There is such a variety, at least within the community itself, about why women identify as lesbians, but even what that means.
There are a number of women who identify as lesbians, some of them, somewhat well-known, have regular liaisons with men. There are some women in the community that you could get to know whove experienced violence at the hands of men and have turned to women for that reason. There are other women who say that theyve been gay since theyve been born and that, of course, is also politically incorrect to question or to ask them how or why they know that.
If that doesnt convince you, then ask yourself why so many gay Americans end up with kids?
In the US, around 37% of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transsexual people have a child, about 60% of which are biological.
In other words, there are a lot of gay Americans having enough straight sex at some point in their lives to produce a kid. Again, its clear that there are also people who are born that way, but there are an awful lot of gay Americans who dont fall into that category.
3) Conversion therapy is a good thing if people want it: Let me say it as clearly as I can: No gay American should be pressured, harassed or involuntarily forced to go to therapy to try to treat their gayness. That sounds more like brainwashing than therapy and its not something that should be going on in this country.
On the other hand, if someone whos gay WANTS to be treated, why should he be stopped from seeing a therapist? Granted, it would probably be futile for someone who has been attracted to the same sex since birth to try to change his orientation via counseling, but as weve already noted, not everyone is in that boat. There are plenty of gay Americans who also feel some attraction to the opposite sex. Whats wrong with letting them get therapy if they want it and think it will make them happier? As a psychology major, I can tell you that Ive read numerous old psychology books that matter-of-factly mention therapists successfully treating homosexual patients who then went on to date, marry, and have children. Does that mean it worked for every patient? Of course, not. No treatment works for everyone. But, would it work for some people who want treatment? Apparently, it does.
So, why should this even be a political issue? Because it makes some gay people who dont believe they can change or dont want to change uncomfortable? Because it might mean they have to tell some hopeful relative that, no, that therapy isnt for them? Thats certainly not a conversation anyone would want to have, but its morally wrong to deny therapy to people who might benefit from it because it makes other people uncomfortable.
4) Gay bullies have become commonplace in America: The biggest jerks you will ever run across are people who feel entitled to act like creeps because they believe theyre victims. A lot of gay Americans have had bad experiences with people whove treated them poorly because theyre gay. Its unfair, its wrong, and its something that shouldnt happen.
Unfortunately, a small subset of gay, liberal Americans wear their victimhood as a badge and believe it entitles them to oppress people who havent hurt them in any way. The whole idea that an unwilling Christian baker or photographer should be forced to bake a cake or take pictures at a gay wedding is fascistic. Its similarly despicable to try to get people fired for opposing gay marriage. The people doing these things arent victims or crusading for civil rights; theyre just run-of-the-mill ***holes who happen to be waving a rainbow flag.
5) Gay scoutmasters would be more likely to molest Boy Scouts: Theres a lot of back and forth on whether gay men are more likely to be pedophiles than heterosexuals, but in the end, it really doesnt matter very much when it comes to the Scouts.
Why is that?
Because a teenager in the Boy Scouts shouldnt be spending a lot of alone time out in the woods with someone who could potentially be attracted to him. This is so basic we dont even think about it when teen girls are involved. If a thirty year old, strapping male P.E. teacher took a group of 15 year old cheerleaders out in the woods, their parents would GO INSANE. Incidentally, theyd be right to be upset. Similarly, a gay man has no business being in the woods with a bunch of teenage boys. In fact, if the Boy Scouts ever allowed gay Scoutmasters in their organization, it would kill them as dead as Disco because most parents dont want their child spending a lot of alone time with an adult who could be sexually attracted to him. In fact, that is so obvious its clear that the people pushing this idea the hardest are primarily concerned with destroying the Boy Scouts, not enabling gay rights.
Add #6: Health care costs
there are similar lists of what you aren’t allowed to say about blacks, women, or other minorities. Because to do so would be racist/sexist/bigoted in some way.
Some people are not clearly born gay. They just happen to be influenced early on by environmental variables resulting in their developing a same sex attraction.
add #7 - the physical act of sodomy is disgusting. the anus was not designed for sex and has no self-cleaning ability whatsoever like the vagina’does.
You can’t say that homosexuality is dangerous or harmful, or that the anus is not a sex organ. Too much truth at the expense of emotional comfort.
Add number eight: is homosexuality morally wrong, and if not, why?
The young boys who were introduced or sexually attacked, many times were used repeatedly and now have homosexuality imprinted. They become used to the act that involves someone younger and ignorant, even if that someone is no longer them.
It’s an evil cycle of punishment and shame, that can only be stopped when it is called for what it is and those who practice use their strength to make the moral choice to halt that choice. It is not love the sinner, hate the sin. The sin is committed by the sinner. They become one and the same.
If it’s not dangerous, then, why the push for HPV vaccines? Why do homosexuals die 20 years sooner? Why is anal cancer the next homosexual plague?
The anus is a sex organ? I assume you’ve gotten your HPV vaccine already.
There is no, at least none that I can find, actual evidence that anyone is born homosexual. It is not and either or question
Homosexuality is different in men and women. Much more wired in for men; wired in for some women, but more likely to be a choice.
“its clear that the people pushing this idea the hardest are primarily concerned with destroying the Boy Scouts, not enabling gay rights.”
and this type of idea is behind almost everything in this country right now, to destroy white, Christian culture. too bad most people don’t see it.
On the plus side, one can say anything one wants to about straight, white males from Judeo-Christian backgrounds. Anything. Any slander, calumny, lie or gripe.
I linked the CDC report on Hepatitis and challenged a homo to explain why 65% of new Hepatitis cases were homos. Of course, having the choice between claiming a lot of needle usage or feces consumption, he went silent.
What issue is there where one can have an honest conversation with liberals?
Can you say “Shoot ‘em”?!
There most assuredly are “haters.” The proper definition is the single issue zealots on the wacko side who hate anyone who fails to bow down to their beliefs.
Forcing me to affirmatively participate in another person's delusion will not cure their mental illness.
Careful, the fecophiles will label you a fecophobe.
There is no scientific evidence that there is a sodomite gene. None. The genetics of sexual attraction are too complicated - and then there are the environmental factors.
The sodomites used say it was a choice until they lost Bowers in 1987, then the litigation strategy required the “we’re born that way” story so they could fit into the civil rights jurisprudence. Even now, they will talk about “gender” being fluid.
“Gay” does, however, correlate strongly with being sexually abused as a child or a teen. Sodomites prey on children at many times the rate of heterosexuals, something the author is afraid to say.
And a whole lot more straight people have been not only unfairly treated, but harassed, bullied, sued, taunted, and put at risk because they're straight. And THAT'S something that shouldn't happen.
Let's tell the whole story.
Homosexuals are also much more likely to have clinical depression, but no serious studies can be done because it acknowledges the premise. We’re supposed to pretend they’re always happy, hence we have to call them “gay”.
Bingo!!! Please use “homosexual” instead of “gay.” Why allow them to hijack the language?
We are all sinners, but we are called to repent and turn from our sin.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Galatians 6:7-8 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
Homosexuals, Gays, Sodomites, or whatever names they choose to go by need to know that they are continuing in sin without even trying to turn away from it. And the wages of sin is death. The second death. Where the soul is reunited with the body and cast into the eternal lake of fire. Forever. The warning must go out to those that are trapped in a sinful lifestyle - there is a judgment, and unless they repent and turn, they will be damned eternally.
Ezekiel 18:30c-32 ... Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin. Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel? For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.
There is a way out - but only on this side of the grave - come to Christ and beg for forgiveness and strength to turn from the clutches of Satan.
Psalms 66:18 If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me:
So turn from iniquity, and turn to Christ, so we can say:
Psalms 66:19-20 But verily God hath heard me; he hath attended to the voice of my prayer. Blessed be God, which hath not turned away my prayer, nor his mercy from me.
‘Tis true, FRiend. However....suggest this to any rabid homosexual and their reaction will be astounding. They will hiss at you like cats, scream obscenities at you, and generally treat you as though you just offered to dip them in boiling oil.
I call it demonic control, if not outright possession.
Epithelium is the histologic term for the tissue lining or covering an organ or structure. The vagina is lined with stratified squamous epithelium, well suited for repeated external friction. Skin is also covered by stratified squamous epithelium.
The rectal canal is lined with simple columnar epithelium. This fragile type is capable of mucous secretion to facilitate evacuation. When damaged (easily with repeated friction), a pathway is created for the entry of micro-organisms to the vascular system.
Read your owner's manual.
There is nothing festive about condyloma accuminata.
I don't know about that. The Boy Scouts might suddenly become popular in certain parts of the Country.
Thanks...I prefer “sodomite”. ;-)
More interestingly, in all cases we have of female homosexuals raised apart, identical twins are NEVER both homosexuals. This suggests very strongly that female homosexuality is ENTIRELY learned or chosen.
Despite the scientific evidence, no one is going to say this.
Just like some people are born with two heads, a cleft palate, or with both male and female sex organs. It's called a birth defect.
The problem is, that's no excuse for acting on it.
If you are only sexually attracted to small children, you learn not to act on that behavior, or you go to jail.
If you are turned on by burning things, you learn to control what you burn, or you get thrown in jail for arson.
If you are a kleptomaniac you either learn to control your desire to steal or you get thrown in jail or put away in an asylum.
Just because one might be suffering from some sort of mental illness or from a birth defect which predisposes them to be attracted to someone of the opposite sex does not be that they are forced to act on such an impulse.
How come feminine men dont seek out butch lesbians for relationships?
if they prefer catching... why not just seek out a women who wishes to pitch who also wants to look and act like a man? it seems to me that a butch lesbian would be the perfect mate for a feminine man. Heck they could both get sex changes if they wished and not have to pretend.
Never try to teach a pig to sing;
It wastes your time, and annoys the pig!
I have been assaulted my homosexual men three times in my life.
I don’t much care for homosexuals, and should one “come on” to me, I’m likely to become VERY unFRiendly!
in layman’s terms, the vaginal canal tissues are designed for back and forth friction from an inserted penis. the anal tissues are not.
Natural Law without words.
Since others have already added 6, 7, and 8, add this as #9 to the list:
The homosexuals have a stranglehold on the media, psychiatric, judicial, and advertising industries. This makes it possible for them to control the message and law enforcement regarding homosexuality.
And it’s not just a large subset of homosexuals who are bullies: Many pro-homo heterosexuals are bullies against those who question homosexuality.
People who project their hatred onto those who question homosexuality are emotionally unstable enough, so when you imply they are hateful themselves, their reaction won’t be too pretty.
Yes, it may be too much to ask a lib to get in touch with its own feelings.
Here is what Muslims do to homosexuals.
In February 1998, the Taliban, who once ruled in Afghanistan, ordered this punishment for three men convicted of sodomy:
On Wednesday, the Taliban ordered the execution of three men for sodomy in the southern town of Kandahar, southern Afghanistan. They were ordered to be buried alive under a pile of stones and a wall was pushed on top of them by a tank.
Their lives were to be spared if they survived for 30 minutes and were still alive when the stones were removed.
Simple and clear reason says that executing homosexuals is wrong today, but where do the Taliban get the punishment of pushing a wall on the guilty men? Also, the article reports that while the religious police were meting out a flogging on a woman for fornication, a speaker chanted, “Thanks to God that we are followers of God not of the West.” This devout Muslim understands the deeper, spiritual conflicttwo religious systems are at work.
In its 1991 Constitution, Iran adopted the extreme punishment of execution for sodomy. Articles 108-113 say:
Sodomy is a crime, for which both partners are punished. The punishment is death if the participants are adults, of sound mind and consenting; the method of execution is for the Shari’a judge to decide.
Later on, the summary of the Constitution says that if the guilty repent, the judge may waive the penalty. But should this penalty exist in the first place? What is the source for this extreme law in the Iranian Constitution?
On April 7, 2005, it was reported that Saudi Arabia sentenced more than 100 men to prison or flogging for “gay conduct.”
On or about March 26, a Jeddah court, meeting in a closed session in which defense attorneys were excluded, sentenced 31 of the men to prison for six months to one year, and to 200 lashes each, for unreported offenses. Four other men received two years imprisonment and 2,000 lashes. Police released more than 70 of the men not long after their initial arrest; reports in the Saudi press suggested that personal contacts with the government had intervened on their behalf. However, on April 3, police summoned the 70 men back to a local police station and informed them that they had been sentenced to one years imprisonment.
Arrest and imprisonment and / or flogging for “gay conduct”? Why? Have these radical judges left Islam?
Execution, flogging, and toppling a wall on homosexuals come from the reliable hadith and later legal rulings in Islam. They sit at its core. Execution and flogging may also come from the Quran itself.
To explain how these extremes are embedded in Islam and how Christianity offers a better solution, this article is divided up into three large sections: Islam, Christianity, and an Application, including supplemental material.
The main section “Islam” is subdivided into three sections: the Quran, the hadith, and classical legal rulings. When we analyze the Quran, we also provide the historical and literary contexts of the target verse, in order to avoid the standard, reflexive “out of context” defense from Muslims apologists (defenders).
In ‘A Moveable Feast’, Hemingway declared he was prepared to kill any homosexual man who would try to sexually assualt him. I’m sure the homosexuals are trying to wipe this passage out.
This guy is spot on with every observation. But if I SAID any of this aloud here in Crazy Lib California, the only friends I’d have left would be my fellow conservatives on the Internet!
Interesting article. Thanks for posting it, 2DV.
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