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To: Sir Napsalot

Only time I ever cheat gaming is when we’ve decided a game of Illuminati will be played with the cheating rules, which still makes it not cheating really. Because cheating makes things boring.

But this isn’t really cheating, this is about how to actually win. Going shrill gets results, but it’s not really a win. If you notice where the Left really wins is where they remain calm and patient. The whole gay rights movement really started gaining traction when they stopped pushing so hard, when they had less odd costumes at Stonewall and more just trying to get people treated like people they started winning. When they were shrill they were weirdos and nobody wanted anything to do with them, when they went calm the Right went shrill, got easily labeled as bigots, and have lost that war.

As soon as the guys in Gamergate went to epithets they were shrill and they lost. They gave the other side the ability to calmly point out the vileness of the attacks (because they were quite vile) and gave away the field. They started with valid complaints, but they snatched defeat from the jaws of victory by being incapable of presenting their arguments calmly and without malice.


56 posted on 09/11/2014 10:42:13 AM PDT by discostu (We don't leave the ladies crying cause the story's sad.)
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To: discostu; All

That may have been true in the past but not today. Stonewall etc. took place in a time when people had ben raised (previously) on the idea of civilized discussion, taught critical thinking/logic skills and so forth.

Today, the generations currently involved were raised/taught from preschool onward by 60s radicals and have a life of experience based on the words of MSNBC/HuffPo/Kos and DU. And with the internet, millions of blogs reinforcing leftist positions. Along with the college ‘educations’ that actively promote the idea that all things are acceptable to ‘win’. Everyone is a unique little snowflake and the most important person ever, thus the world must conform to their desire of the nanosecond.

And unfortunately, the desire to win/be ‘right’ leads many down the road they were taught to follow all the faster. the path of situational ethics. Today, nothing is off limits as long as one gets what they personally desire.

Which unfortunately we ALSO see making lots of headway on the right and right here on FR.


57 posted on 09/11/2014 10:58:56 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: discostu

See, my opinion is that if I don’t cheat in games, then I don’t have fun. I enjoy “winning” overwhelmingly, no shame if I use level 20 character beating a lvl 10 in story mode. But that was just a distraction to the point I was trying to make in my #55 comment to you.

And your example of gay marriage/gay rights movement is grasping. Gay rights movement and same sex marriage moved beyond people’s choice. It was thrust down our throats despite overwhelming objections.


61 posted on 09/11/2014 12:58:39 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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