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Felons and Guns in Minnesota
Gun Watch ^ | 1 November, 2014 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 11/02/2014 5:10:03 PM PST by marktwain



A recent report on how judges sentence felons who are convicted of gun crimes in Minnesota reveals some information that is not obvious.    KSTP spent weeks analysing more than 1,800 cases involving crimes with guns and felons in possession of guns in Minnesota.   They found that in many of the situations, no jail time was added because of the gun offense.   One case is presented, which one might assume, would be one of the most egregious.   The suspect, August Fleming, was charged with second degree assault and with being a felon in possession of a firearm.    It is clear that the reporter expects us to be outraged by the judges actions.   When I read the particulars, I initially felt sympathy for the felon.   Surveillance video captured the entire action, so there was no dispute about the facts of the case.   From kstp.com:

Surveillance cameras captured what happened, a pick-up basketball game had turned violent. One man approached August Fleming, who was 20 years old at the time, threatened him with a knife, and cut his cheek. A friend then brought Fleming a backpack. Fleming pulled out a gun and opened fire, pulling the trigger at least six times. One frame of video captured the flash of gunfire.
 Later, the article reveals an important detail:
And he only used the gun when it was presented to him "in the heat of the moment" by a so-called friend -- and at a time (the original assailant) had not ceased his pursuit of Mr. Fleming.
When I researched the case a bit more, I found that once Fleming had the gun in his possession, his assailant turned and ran, and Fleming ran after him, firing repeatedly.   This does much to explain his sentence.  From hennepinattorney.org:
Fleming retreated and was nearly off the basketball court when a friend approached with a backpack. Fleming reached in the backpack, pulled out a gun, and ran after the man who slashed him, firing repeatedly, according to the complaint and the surveillance video. No one was struck by the bullets.

When he was 17, Fleming was adjudicated delinquent in juvenile court for helping a friend steal a handgun from a sporting goods store. As a result, he was prohibited from ever owning or even handling a gun.
A man was later charged with second degree assault for stabbing Fleming in the face.  Fleming is a big man, 6-4 tall, and was a high school varsity basketball player.  It is unknown how large the man with the knife was, or what precipitated his attack. 


I discovered more arrests of August Latimothy Fleming.  Later charges include assault, weapons charges, and possession of a controlled substance.   My sympathy evaporated.  



It appears the the rest of society is better off with Mr. Fleming in prison.


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TOPICS: Government; Local News; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; felons; gunpossession; minnesota
August Fleming appears to be a talented basketball player that is pursuing a criminal career.
1 posted on 11/02/2014 5:10:03 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

This does raise an interesting point, and I am sure one many ex-cons have considered. Adult drug dealers have long used minors to actually sell the drugs, since they would likely get lesser punishments than repeat offender adults.

So why not have armed minors as armed bodyguards for an ex-con? So if they get in a fight, their “second” can pull a gun and shoot the other guy. And the ex-con will never have the gun in his possession.


2 posted on 11/02/2014 5:24:45 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: marktwain

He’ll never make it as a marksman.


3 posted on 11/02/2014 7:04:40 PM PST by Stevod
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To: Stevod

Firing a gun gangsta-style, single-handed, with the butt held horizontally, is an excellent way to hit bystanders. If anyone ever hit the intended target this way, it was probably a lucky shot - the result of accidentally pointing the gun away from the target.


4 posted on 11/02/2014 8:25:29 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: marktwain

The guy got sliced by a knife, and then fired back. Too bad he didn’t have the gun on him and fired during the attack - he could have claimed self-defense.


5 posted on 11/02/2014 8:31:12 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: marktwain

I thought midnight basketball solved all violence.

Now they bring guns to the basketball game...or does the game have to commence at exactly midnight to be an effective crime deterrent?


6 posted on 11/03/2014 1:09:41 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: Stevod

God bless you, sir. I pray for the best. S


7 posted on 11/05/2014 8:58:07 PM PST by Stevod
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