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To: grundle

A listing of 26 items which point to birth in Hawaii. [The Scribd app is needed to view]

https://www.scribd.com/doc/96756764/Barack-Obama-Was-Born-in-Hawaii

In my humble opinion, the most compelling items are the August 31, 1961 Student Visa extension interview that Barack Obama Senior had with Immgration and Naturalization Service officer William Woods. Mr. Woods’ notes show Obama Senior mentioning his American citizen wife and child born in Honolulu on 8/4/1961 and their address in Honolulu.

Also the 1968 St. Francis of Assisi School in Jakarta, Indonesia application form filled out by step-father Lolo Soetoro lists Honolulu, Hawaii as “Barry Soetoro’s” birthplace.


78 posted on 01/22/2015 11:11:07 AM PST by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: Nero Germanicus

You’re aware that the person who made that list was banned from FR?

But in your humble view, his content is still welcome?

Kind of a way for the banned party to continue to post after he’s been uninvited?

Is that you, LorenC?

It’s been mentioned that your posts are eerily similar.


81 posted on 01/22/2015 11:58:02 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Nero Germanicus
In my humble opinion, the most compelling items are the August 31, 1961 Student Visa extension interview that Barack Obama Senior had with Immgration and Naturalization Service officer William Woods. Mr. Woods’ notes show Obama Senior mentioning his American citizen wife and child born in Honolulu on 8/4/1961 and their address in Honolulu.

Of all the things you presented in your document, that *is* probably the most compelling but neither it nor anything else so far presented meets a conclusive standard of proof.

Left out of this discussion is the fact that Hawaii *WILL* issue birth certificates for people not born there. They will be *REAL* documents, but they don't really prove anything. Beyond that, you can't even get Hawaii to admit with no "ifs" "ands" or "buts" that the document we are seeing is the ORIGINAL. They keep sticking comments on it that are ambiguous and inconclusive. Such as "Or an abstract thereof" which renders any "certification" pointless because nothing is being certified with any degree of certainty.

It is this constant resort to "wiggle room" that makes me distrust any pronouncements the Hawaiian state government makes on the topic. Their previous language of certification was exact with no ambiguity whatsoever, but for some reason they seem to feel the need to hedge every statement they make.

98 posted on 01/22/2015 7:10:02 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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