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Exposing The First Birther [Who was the first person to say that Obama was born in Kenya?]
wordpress ^ | January 17, 2015 | Steven Goddard

Posted on 01/21/2015 9:36:01 PM PST by grundle

Exposing The First Birther

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Birthers are evil people who say that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. The first birther was almost certainly Barack Obama.

From 1991 to 2007, his literary agents promoted him as being born in Kenya. The only plausible place they could have gotten his bio from is from Barack Obama himself. There was no Internet in 1991. When someone wants a bio, they say “write a short paragraph about yourself.” It is implausible that his bio came from anyone else, or that his agents would have wasted time trying to pull together information about some recently graduated college kid’s birthplace and background.

Miriam Goderich of Acton & Dystel says that she didn’t do adequate fact checking, but she never said whose facts it was she was checking.

So why would Obama lie about his birthplace? If you ask that question, progressives call you a birther. (Queue in the usual progressive scumbags.)

1991

Born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii’

2004

Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate

2007

http://web.archive.org/web/20070403190001



TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: anydaynow; birthers; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obamabio
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To: Nero Germanicus

You’re aware that the person who made that list was banned from FR?

But in your humble view, his content is still welcome?

Kind of a way for the banned party to continue to post after he’s been uninvited?

Is that you, LorenC?

It’s been mentioned that your posts are eerily similar.


81 posted on 01/22/2015 11:58:02 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter
It is entirely likely Hussein WAS berfed in Hawaii!

It's just his daddy they are trying to hide!

How many American negroes would riot at his command if they knew he wasn't black?

82 posted on 01/22/2015 3:22:58 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,)
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To: rawcatslyentist
Your link got me "The requested document does not exist on this server."
83 posted on 01/22/2015 3:31:01 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: rawcatslyentist

The evidence that Obama was born in HI is highly questionable. Had he actually been born there, ***someone*** would remember something. A landlady would recall his mother, or the landlady’s child/children would. A neighbor would remember. A friend. People remember Stanley Ann from before her pregnancy. People recall her afterward. There is just one 9-mo gap during which she appears to have vaporized.

Stanley Ann’s whereabouts during that period are a matter of debate, but you can virtually rule out HI. A person cannot live for 9-mos in a place, showing a pregnancy more each day, and finally going to the hospital and bringing home a newborn, without ***someone*** noticing. But in Stanley Ann’s case not one soul remembers her in HI. I.e.: they recall her before this period and after, but not during.

Let’s face it, she wasn’t there.


84 posted on 01/22/2015 3:53:55 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter
Maybe. Maybe all the mistakes in records were scar tissue from hiding he was born there to an Indonesian father.

The African parentage ploy is being used to manipulate a tenth of our population. That is a fact.

How many American Negroes would blindly follow an Indonesian? 0%?

That IS a damning MOTIVE for hiding his parentage!

The Subud cult has 3 main bases of operations. Jakarta, Honolulu, and Chicago. The Stanleys were members, so was Fuddy!

85 posted on 01/22/2015 4:10:05 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,)
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To: Yosemitest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-cl=84411374&x-yt-ts=1421828030&v=Xck4t1jVnAQ

Got in a hurry and didn't check my links. My Bad.

86 posted on 01/22/2015 4:14:07 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,)
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To: Zhang Fei

no mystery??
You must have never met anyone who was raised overseas
from age 6 to 10, in a foreign land, he would have picked up an accent of some kind

I know adults who pick up foreign accents of England and Australia who move over age 20 and spend one single year, you hear it in different words

but for a CHILD from age 6 to 10 to NOT pick it up...THAT is the mystery...


87 posted on 01/22/2015 4:22:44 PM PST by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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To: rawcatslyentist
That link was well worth my time and the first time I've viewed that information in a video.
The wicked web keeps unwinding!
Thanks.
88 posted on 01/22/2015 4:23:17 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: RaceBannon
I know adults who pick up foreign accents of England and Australia who move over age 20 and spend one single year, you hear it in different words

That's the result of conversing in English with a bunch of different people who speak with foreign accents. The number of people in Indonesia who speak English is extremely low. Expats hang out with other expats, and the kind of ennui depicted in Lost in Translation isn't atypical in the expat scene. And frankly, British-style accents are fashionable, so people make a conscious effort to mimic it. Some Brits gain American accents while in the US, but I've never heard a Brit or an American speak with a non-Anglosphere accent (and I don't include India in the Anglosphere).

89 posted on 01/22/2015 4:34:31 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: rawcatslyentist

‘How many American Negroes would blindly follow an Indonesian? 0%?’

That is a good question. But if Obama Sr. is Obama Jr’s father, there is a similar disconnect. I.e.: Obama Jr is more white than any other race, and far more Arabic than negro. Also, he has zero slave blood, and I read somewhere that his ancestors actually enabled the slave trade. That hasn’t bothered anybody that I’m aware of, has it?


90 posted on 01/22/2015 4:40:00 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: grundle

He was born in Kenya, yes. However. this resulted from mama Stanley Ann being kicked out of a SE Asian guru’s communist, Islam cult because the cult members did not accept her child of the leader as a true member. Look up Muhhammed Subuh to find who the real sperm provider for Obama was.


91 posted on 01/22/2015 4:47:36 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: Fantasywriter
So are you saying Stanley Ann lived in that wee bungalow with her parents for the entire length of her pregnancy? If not, where was Stanley Ann during those nine months?

That's neither here nor there. What's significant is that she split and turned up with a three-week-old baby to attend the U of Washington, leaving BHO, Sr. to complete his studies at the U of Hawaii. She must have wanted to get away from him, since she did not return to Hawaii until after he'd left for Harvard. There is little evidence they actually ever lived together as a married couple.

Apparently, Stanley Ann's parents were renting 6085 Kalanianaole Highway (the whole house, not just the bungalow) from the Lefforges, who bought the place in 1958 but didn't move in themselves until 1963. This is according to the Polk Directory, which listed Stanley A. Dunham as a manager at Pratt Furniture and Madelyn Dunham as a loan officer and escrow agent. It separately listed a student named Ann S. Obama at the Kalanianaole address, although it showed BHO, Sr., at 625 11th Avenue.

Whether Stanley Ann also lived there or simply floated in and out between there and where her new husband lived is unknown.

In any case, it's no surprise that the address appeared in the birth announcement. It's common for college kids without much of a fixed address to use their parents' address, whether or not they spend most nights there.

92 posted on 01/22/2015 5:35:46 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: DiogenesLamp
His citizenship is the creation of congress, not "natural law" on which the nation was founded.

More precisely, by the House 139 to 36, the Senate 33 to 11, and all of the states (although it took Kentucky until 1976).

93 posted on 01/22/2015 6:04:30 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: grundle

The hack mainstream propaganda press claims in articles Zero’s bio by publishing company was just a factual error, as if one would believe Zero would mistake his birthplace when he gave them that info, which is protocol. Unfortunately the internet wayback machine shows Zero conveniently changing his birthplace in 2007 prior to Pres. run-up. http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/shocker-obama-was-still-kenyan-born-in-2003/

Witness affidavits in court include mail carrier Allen Hulton who was told by Mary Ayers Zero was a foreign student they were giving financial aid to

http://stephen-diamond.com/2009/09/25/barack-obama%E2%80%99s-visit-to-the-other-ayers%E2%80%99-house/

and Tim Adams HI elections clerk stating no birth certificate exists in HI
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=165041

which was reiterated by HI Governor Neil Abercrombie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD0U_jo2jQE


94 posted on 01/22/2015 6:17:58 PM PST by TheBigJ
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To: The Cajun

And some Freepers (not you) are engaging in Alinsky tactics/methods.


95 posted on 01/22/2015 6:42:15 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2001)
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To: marron; Kenny Bunk

“... No one could get at his paper trail,and no one was able to even discuss it in polite company without being drummed out of the public square. ....”

And it can’t be discussed on FR without some (not y’all) posters engaging in the ‘driumming’.


96 posted on 01/22/2015 6:57:39 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2001)
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To: WildHighlander57

There definitely is a deflection and obfuscation crew and a few of their dupes bopping around here at times on certain specific issues :)


97 posted on 01/22/2015 7:06:59 PM PST by The Cajun (Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert....Nuff said.)
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To: Nero Germanicus
In my humble opinion, the most compelling items are the August 31, 1961 Student Visa extension interview that Barack Obama Senior had with Immgration and Naturalization Service officer William Woods. Mr. Woods’ notes show Obama Senior mentioning his American citizen wife and child born in Honolulu on 8/4/1961 and their address in Honolulu.

Of all the things you presented in your document, that *is* probably the most compelling but neither it nor anything else so far presented meets a conclusive standard of proof.

Left out of this discussion is the fact that Hawaii *WILL* issue birth certificates for people not born there. They will be *REAL* documents, but they don't really prove anything. Beyond that, you can't even get Hawaii to admit with no "ifs" "ands" or "buts" that the document we are seeing is the ORIGINAL. They keep sticking comments on it that are ambiguous and inconclusive. Such as "Or an abstract thereof" which renders any "certification" pointless because nothing is being certified with any degree of certainty.

It is this constant resort to "wiggle room" that makes me distrust any pronouncements the Hawaiian state government makes on the topic. Their previous language of certification was exact with no ambiguity whatsoever, but for some reason they seem to feel the need to hedge every statement they make.

98 posted on 01/22/2015 7:10:02 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp; cynwoody; LucyT

And age is one thing nobody’s touched.....

all the suits and arguments have revolved around what constitutes a natural born citizen.

Nothing brought forward about AGE.

And a birth cert is the commonly used means of establishing age....

And the constitution clearly states “ 35 years of age”.


99 posted on 01/22/2015 7:19:07 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2001)
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To: cynwoody
More precisely, by the House 139 to 36, the Senate 33 to 11, and all of the states (although it took Kentucky until 1976).

The 14th amendment was never meant to apply to the children born here of foreign parents unless those parents intended to permanently reside in this country.

It was not intended to cover "anchor babies". It has gotten distorted quite a lot from what it's original purpose, which was to grant citizenship rights to former slaves.

100 posted on 01/22/2015 7:20:34 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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