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Exposing The First Birther [Who was the first person to say that Obama was born in Kenya?]
wordpress ^ | January 17, 2015 | Steven Goddard

Posted on 01/21/2015 9:36:01 PM PST by grundle

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To: WildHighlander57
And the constitution clearly states “ 35 years of age”

I made that very point a few days ago.

101 posted on 01/22/2015 7:24:14 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: cynwoody

“.... It’s common for college kids without much of a fixed address to use their parents’ address,whether or not they spend most nights there. ...”

And what you said demolishes any arguments based on “there was no room at XYZ address”.

Exercise for the curious:

Try to track someone while they are going to college.

I bet its not easy; dollars to donuts the parents address comes up... or nothing at all.


102 posted on 01/22/2015 7:29:44 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2001)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Many thanks!

It needs to be said over and over till people sit up and notice.....


103 posted on 01/22/2015 7:31:57 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2001)
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To: WildHighlander57; null and void; Velveeta; Rushmore Rocks; Oorang; Myrddin; MamaDearest; ...
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Thanks, Wildhighlander57.

104 posted on 01/22/2015 7:46:53 PM PST by LucyT
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To: noinfringers2
>"Look up Muhhammed Subuh to find who the real sperm provider for Obama was."

Who ya gonna believe? Hussein, or your lying eyes?


105 posted on 01/22/2015 8:48:41 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,)
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To: DiogenesLamp

It was the combination of the Certificate of Live Birth which was registered on August 8, 1961 and has been verified by the state of Hawaii PLUS the “Health Bureau Statistics” birth notice entries in both Honolulu newspapers on August 13th and 14th, 1961 AND Barack Obama Senior’s statement to the INS on August 31, 1961 that have accounted for no one in Congress being willing to conduct a hearing on natural born citizenship and eligibility over the last seven years.
The other exhibits of corroboration are primarily hearsay.

Hawaii said that the birth certificate was the original in their very first press release dated October 31, 2008:

For Immediate Release: October 31, 2008

STATEMENT BY DR. CHIYOME FUKINO
“There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.
“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s ORIGINAL birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
“No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawai‘i.
http://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/files/2013/05/08-93.pdf


106 posted on 01/22/2015 9:41:48 PM PST by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: WildHighlander57
...No one could get at his paper trail,and no one was able to even discuss it in polite company without being drummed out of the public square. ....”

The "Illegitimacy Issue" is indeed verboten. The official acceptance of the man has definitely been a bad corner turned for the Republic. The question remaining is, "Can there be a 'Restoration' of the Republic, when more than half of the voters don't know what that is, or if they do, don't want it?"

Next question: "What do the remaining 49% do about it?"

107 posted on 01/23/2015 3:18:49 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Gay Muslim Marxist from Mombasa as POTUS? Sure! What could possibly go wrong?)
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To: cynwoody

So you blew by all the actual facts and evidence and substituted conjecture?

Did you even read my posts? If you did, where are you getting the evidence to refute David Maraniss’ facts?


108 posted on 01/23/2015 4:46:56 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: WildHighlander57

‘Try to track someone while they are going to college.’

Stanley Ann was not attending college during the period in question. No one, not even the most Obama-friendly biographers on record, have claimed she was staying with her parents at this point in her life.


109 posted on 01/23/2015 4:50:58 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Nero Germanicus

‘In the MSNBC interview with Dr. Chiyome Fukino, “she found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files.”’

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2703020/posts


110 posted on 01/23/2015 4:59:10 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: WildHighlander57

‘Try to track someone while they are going to college.’

& btw, WH57, Stanely Ann is quite easy to track during the periods of time when she was actually attending college. The only untraceable/blank [according to the liberal biographers, etc.] time-frame in her life occurs when she was not attending college.


111 posted on 01/23/2015 5:03:55 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Nero Germanicus

It’s interesting to go back and see how desperate Obama, HI and Obama’s most closely allied news outlets were to make the original birther issue die:

‘NEW YORK, July 24 (UPI) — CNN/U.S. President Jon Klein told staffers of “Lou Dobbs Tonight” the controversy over President Barack Obama’s birth certificate is a “dead story.”
Klein wrote in an e-mail to staffers Thursday that CNN researchers had determined Hawaiian officials discarded paper birth documents in 2001. Thus, he said, Obama’s long-form birth certificate no longer exists, and a shorter certificate that is public is the official record.

“It seems to definitively answer the question,” Klein wrote in the e-mail, first reported by the Web site TVNewser. “Since the show’s mission is for Lou to be the explainer and enlightener, he should be sure to cite this during your segment tonite (sic). And then it seems this story is dead — because anyone who still is not convinced doesn’t really have a legitimate beef.”’

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/07/24/CNN-chief-Obama-birth-story-dead/76681248480120/#ixzz3PeQi7pHi


112 posted on 01/23/2015 5:31:39 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

I was thinking of the time period Stanley Ann -was- in college; it could fit the ‘used the parents’ address’ model.

(Used parents’ addy, lived in small apt; reference Polk directories for Honolulu & Seattle respectively )

The non-college time period is indeed a blank.


113 posted on 01/23/2015 6:01:09 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2001)
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To: WildHighlander57

Thanks for that clarification.


114 posted on 01/23/2015 6:13:27 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Nero Germanicus
It was the combination of the Certificate of Live Birth which was registered on August 8, 1961 and has been verified by the state of Hawaii PLUS the “Health Bureau Statistics” birth notice entries in both Honolulu newspapers on August 13th and 14th, 1961 AND Barack Obama Senior’s statement to the INS on August 31, 1961 that have accounted for no one in Congress being willing to conduct a hearing on natural born citizenship and eligibility over the last seven years.

You are familiar with "argumentum ad populum"? The opinions of large quantities of people, even people in authority, do not prove anything.

All the documents you assert as proof could also have been created by the simple filing of an at home birth document by the grandmother. In other words, all that paperwork could have been generated without any ACTUAL PROOF of birth in Hawaii.

Every piece of paperwork you have put forth can be explained as the consequence of that one initial document, which we can't see, and it is the fact that they go to such great lengths to prevent us from seeing it that argues there is something wrong there.

STATEMENT BY DR. CHIYOME FUKINO...

And now you are just repeating yourself without actually addressing the point; That Obama could have been born elsewhere, and still gotten all that paperwork filed on his behalf.

You know what would probably serve as actual proof? A hospital record from the hospital in Hawaii. Though we know the Hawaiian government will issue a birth certificate for people not born there, it is virtually certain that a hospital will not record a birth as having taken place in their hospital if it had not.

At this point, I'd sooner trust an old document from the Hospital patient files than I would anything an official of Hawaii had to say on the matter.

115 posted on 01/23/2015 8:07:36 AM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: Tenacious 1
It likely helped with his admissions considering his grades sucked.

Not to mention financial aid.

116 posted on 01/23/2015 8:57:12 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: grundle

He said it first. Back when he was dumped on the Dunham’s door step, he told the Punahou school he was a Kenyan prince.


117 posted on 01/23/2015 11:51:22 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: rawcatslyentist

Kenyan, Indonesian, American, Russian, or Martian, he’s a liar.


118 posted on 01/23/2015 11:53:55 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: erkelly

Even Gov. Pothead couldn’t find the Hawaiian BC he promised to find.


119 posted on 01/23/2015 11:58:07 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: relictele

Granny Sarah and most of her tribe wants/wanted to claim him.

The Kenyan Parliament claimed him. Don’t know if the minutes of that meeting was scrubbed or not. You’ll have to search but they did indeed claim him.


120 posted on 01/23/2015 12:03:43 PM PST by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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