Posted on 02/04/2015 9:43:28 AM PST by raptor22
ulture: An unlikely issue has entered the infant 2016 presidential campaign: Vaccines and required vaccinations. Let's hope the fact there's no scientific link to autism or anything else isn't lost in the political fray.
Candidates will often look for an edge over their opponents. Thus, both New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky recently suggested that, while vaccinations are good, forcing parents to vaccinate their children might be too much.
We believe vaccines are safe and should be routine, but concern about parents' rights is not unreasonable. What really gripes us, however, is listening to the media make this out to be an issue dreamed up by anti-science, right-wing kooks. Far from it.
The issue has been pushed in recent years almost entirely by the left. Hollywood progressives and others in the media (see editorial, below) have promoted the idea that vaccines have possible nasty effects, such as autism, and that they're reason to keep kids from being vaccinated.
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Really, what would happen if there was a popular movement to repeal the laws requiring you to have auto-insurance?
Do you think the insurance companies would sit idly by? Or do you think that our politicians are too pure to be bribed/intimidated?
“Great,the issue should be framed,you wont need to subject your children to vaccines if you vote Republican because they wont allow THOUSANDS of illegal into the country with exotic diseases,some of which have been official eradicated since 2000 like measles,and entro virus68.like the democrats “
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[ What I do NOT want is people who haven’t watched someone almost die from a reaction to use coercive, government force to require I stick my kids with something that could harm them.
Is this reasonable? ]
Completely and Absolutely reasonable!
[ In addition to that, there’s the very real possibility of the vaccine being a sterilization program, like in Kenya.
Now that your doctor is a government agent thanks to the ACA, ask yourself how much you trust him to look after your health rather than do what his new masters deem proper and necessary. ]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_contraceptive
Immunocontraception targeting sperm antigens has been found to be effective in male primates.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immunocontraception
Also how do we know that with all the other chemicals that we use that arguablely have made life better and some worse that there are not effects that could be triggered by combinations with vaccines that could cause a person’s immune system to target their own tissues be it brain (autism), Reproductive (streruility), Organs (heart disease and Type 1 diabetes), or alter cells to induce cancer or even cause the immune system to not respond to naturally occuring cancer cells????
And do you really trust the government that what they tell you is really is?
Do you think it beyond the realm of possibility that the government would push sterilization as a vaccine? Because the world's too populated!
and other politically motivated reasons?
The vaccine has saved multiple millions from catching measles whose death rate is much higher than the possible repercussions from the vaccine itself.
I'm not saying that vaccines are themselves bad; I'm saying that (a) there's other stuff
in the shot that is of dubious benefit, and (b) that there is something to be mistrusted here: government. (We've been shown again and again that the government is not concerned with our benefit, but with power.)
That is the real science.
But without philosophy, morality, science
can be a terrible master — after all, kill them all
is a perfectly logical answer/solution to the problem of there are starving people in Africa.
Yes, as the vaccines become mature in the market place. But if they are obligatory, then your opinion doesn't matter anyway.
I am all for vaccines, but before I take it I'll wait while it develops a track record.
And the key thing here, I want the right as a citizen and human being to make that judgement.
Uh, this is yet another fraudulent issue. Hippy parents in Marin County don’t vaccinate their kids and let hordes of un-vaccinated illegal aliens over the border; but somehow this is the Republicans fault.
Shame on Christie and Rand for attempting to exploit low-information voters in the following way. Regardless if all voters had Phds in medicine and science, it remains that the states have never delegaged to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to dictate medical or science policies for the states.
No, because vaccines are not enough to "overload" the immune system. This is an erroneous assumption.
How do we not know that somone with a certain allergy shouldn’t get their vaccines all at once?
Easy, you ask your doctor.
Wouldn’t it be common sense to give the body a break between vaccines to allow the immune system to settle down rather than pushing it into overdrive with multiple vaccines at once????
No, there is no evidence to support any benefits to "give the body a break" or "allow the immune system to settle down". These are erroneous, non-medical assumptions that might seem common sense to people who aren't doctors, but are based on fallacious information that has no basis in fact.
It would likely be cheered on and supported by the trial lawyers, who are licking their lips at the idea that vaccines cause autism.
Luckily there's no evidence for it, and the side effects of vaccines are well-known and carry the same rare amounts of risk as most medical treatments.
And what are the vaccines that have been pulled from the market because of dangerous or fatal side effects?
You see, you InfoWars conspiracy theorists can't have it both ways. Either Big Pharma owns the FDA and can push through whatever deadly drugs they want to, or they can't. Which one is it?
The War On Science Meme is getting a jump start on the War On Women Meme this scampaign cycle.
I loathe the DNC run pravda media.
It’s a divide and conquer and distract approach to scampaigning.
Get this type of issue taking up talk radio, press, and polls rather than discussing border security, ISIS, and unemployment.
The 'science' is questioned with the vaccination hippy crowd.
The 'science' is ignored when determining gender with the LQFTB crowd.
[ No, there is no evidence to support any benefits to “give the body a break” or “allow the immune system to settle down”. These are erroneous, non-medical assumptions that might seem common sense to people who aren’t doctors, but are based on fallacious information that has no basis in fact. ]
Have you ever had an allergy attack at the same time as being sick with the cold/flu?
It makes it a lot worse doesn’t it?
Also until you have had to suffer through an adverse vaccine reaction, you will never know, good luck on your next regualrly scheduled vaccination.
Hopefully you ask them to give you all the vaccines all at once. And hopefully you don’t get sick.
You should eat all of you meals at once too, it would save you bunch of time.
Maybe even hold in all your body waste until the end of the day, you can save a lot of time that way too.
Oh and please do all your breathing once a day too....
Hush, you’re making sense!
Next up will be removal of guns from homes with kids. For the good of the children and society at large. How many toddlers and kids have shot parents/playmates/siblings and/or taken guns to school lately? Clearly guns in the home with kids is a dangerous thing. That will be the next push, bet the farm on it.
If that's the case, then why aren't they pushing to repeal those laws now? Why haven't they pushed it before now?
Luckily there's no evidence for it, and the side effects of vaccines are well-known and carry the same rare amounts of risk as most medical treatments.
And there's no [real] evidence for anthropogenic global warming, yet there are policies being set, forced because of it; why do you wish to deny your fellow citizen self-sovereignty under threat of government coercion?
I always think of German Measles when people say they have not had their kids vaccinated. Rubella in and of itself is a mild disease. Many patients are asymptomatic. The real danger is to an unborn child whose mother is in the first trimester of a pregnancy.
We haven’t heard much about Congenital Rubella Syndrome since the vaccine became available in 1969. Before that, rubella epidemics would hit every 6 to 9 years. With the epidemics would come a dramatic increase in Congenital Rubella Syndrome. It was not a rare occurrence.
It is one thing to decide against a vaccine if the consequences of that decision are confined to your own child. With Rubella, the consequences are on other people’s children.
1969 seems like a lifetime ago. I wonder how many people younger than I know how very real the fear was when a pregnant woman learned she had been exposed to German Measles.
The benefits from vaccines far outweigh the risks, IMHO.
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