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Gay “Marriage”: Obama Lied, Rick Warren Believed
Last Days Watchman ^ | Julio Severo

Posted on 02/11/2015 12:42:47 PM PST by juliosevero


Gay “Marriage”: Obama Lied, Rick Warren Believed

By Julio Severo

Barack Obama “deceived” Pastor Rick Warren during the 2008 presidential election in an appearance at Warren’s Saddleback Church, where Obama said, “I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman. Now, for me as a Christian — for me — for me as a Christian, it is also a sacred union. God’s in the mix.”

David Axelrod, who served as a top White House adviser after helping Obama get elected, said Obama lied when he publicly stated his opposition to same-sex “marriage” in 2008. In his new book, “Believer: My Forty Years in Politics,” Axelrod writes that he knew Obama supported gay “marriage.”

The real Obama said in 1996, “I favor legalizing same-sex marriages, and would fight efforts to prohibit such marriages.”

Longtime Obama adviser Axelrod writes in his new memoir that Obama followed his advice that he should not declare his real position on gay “marriage” so he could avoid opposition from African American religious leaders and others to get elected president in 2008. He said Obama “modified his position” to say he supported civil unions — but not same-sex “marriage.”

Obama feigned opposition to gay “marriage” for most of his political career, compromising his true beliefs out of concern it could hurt him with voters.

But as president in 2010 he returned publicly to his original position.

Axelrod writes in “Believer: My Forty Years in Politics” that he told the future president in 2008 that he should hide the ball and deceive the American public for political purposes.

Axelrod had been also hired to help build Aécio Neves candidacy for the 2014 Brazilian presidential election campaign. Sadly for Brazil, both Neves and incumbent Dilma Rousseff are members of pro-homosexuality parties. It is not known how Axelrod taught his Brazilian candidate to hide the ball and deceive the Brazilian public for political purposes, but he lost.

Sadly for America, Axelrod’s U.S. candidate never lost.

How can Brazilian and American voters choose candidates according to pro-family values if they are deceived? And they have been deceived especially in homosexual issues, including homosexual “marriage.”

Ancient Jewish tradition holds that homosexual “marriage” was the “final insult” to God which caused Him to bring the Great Flood. If this is true, how could not Pastor Rick Warren discern this terrible sign for America?

According to WorldNetDaily, in the 2008 presidential campaign, Warren hosted in his church the Civil Forum on Leadership and Compassion, open to all media, where Democrat candidate Barack Obama and Republican candidate John McCain answered questions posed exclusively by Warren, who wanted to help evangelicals choose the “best” candidate based on their own answers and “sincerity.” The problem was: there was a lot of answers and insincerity.

Obama gave Warren an answer about marriage that Warren and evangelicals wanted to hear: “marriage is the union between a man and a woman” and also a “sacred union.”

Yet, the responsibility of a man of God is not to ask sinners to answer public questions to guide God’s people. It is obvious that sinners are free to lie — and Obama used this right abundantly.

Of course, McCain also lied, because he told Warren that he did not believed in the homosexual version of marriage, but more recently, he has been supportive of adoption by homosexuals and hostile to the Russian laws banning homosexual propaganda to children.

Warren’s job was not to ask sinners what they are, but to show, based in a Christian discernment, what their true convictions were. God says that his leaders “must teach my people the difference between what is holy and what is unholy. They must show the people how to tell the difference between what is clean and what is unclean.” (Ezekiel 44:23 GWV)

Yet, instead of teaching his evangelical public how to use true Christian discernment, Warren let two liars to speak freely their lies as he instructed his public to analyze their lies. He, not his public, should analyze and interpret Obama and McCain’s lies and insincerity.

There is no surprise that Obama lied about his true agenda, which is to lie to advance more lies.

But the Christian agenda for a Christian leader is crystal-clear: to help his public to see through liars and their lies, and to understand and support what is right.

Obama had always been a believer in the homosexual “marriage,” according to Axelrod, who said of Obama in 2008: “He also recognized that the country wasn’t there yet—that we needed to bring the country along.”

Warren was “deceived” because he wanted to be deceived. There is no lack of Bible instruction from God for his leaders to understand their responsibilities to sinners, including sinners who want to govern the most powerful nation in the world.

With a little help from the Holy Spirit and his gift of spiritual discernment (which would enable him to see what he is not able to see), Warren could have said, “I do not believe that Obama and McCain are prepared for the U.S. presidency. Folks, let us pray, for our country needs a powerful visitation from God!”

I know many good American who do not possess spiritual discernment. But they would not need a polygraph to test Obama’s sincerity. By looking at his background, they were able to understand what Obama would eventually do — which he did.

I hope that Rick Warren and his public have learnt precious lessons about liars and their lies.

With information from the Associated Press, Daily Beast, Daily Mail and WorldNetDaily.

Portuguese version of this article: “Casamento” gay: Obama mentiu, Rick Warren acreditou

Source: Last Days Watchman

Recommended Reading:

Leading the world by evil example: Obama and gay “marriage”

Land of Billy Graham legalizes homosexual “marriage” and six judges resign rather than be forced to officiate such perversion

Washington, D.C.: The Seat of the Immoral World Government


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Politics; Reference; Religion
KEYWORDS: axelrod; bho2012; demlies; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; lie; lied; obama
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To: Fido969

Oh. I am so sorry.


21 posted on 02/11/2015 1:36:35 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: juliosevero
“I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman. Now, for me as a Christian — BHO, 2008

That lie and about 10,000 others from our emporer deserves the Brian Williams suspension along with a prosecution for fraud.

22 posted on 02/11/2015 1:38:18 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Disambiguator

Rick Warren = Jimmy Swaggart to some degree.

Remember when Rick was gallivanting around the world ‘helping’ folks in third world countries. At one stop, when taking off in his copter, the force was known to blow down the homes of his followers. Of course, he did apologize for the inconvenience. Believe what you will, just look at the target from all sides before making any conclusion. And, yes, the is a Christian speaking here.


23 posted on 02/11/2015 1:42:05 PM PST by V K Lee
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To: Son-Joshua
Unfortunately, I think there are believers who put their politics before their faith in Christ.

Well, we know that is fact just from the evidence present on FreeRepublic.

We has many people who support Mitt Romney, even though he was Pro-Abortion and Pro Gay Agenda.
24 posted on 02/11/2015 1:51:09 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: juliosevero

Rick Warren is an asshat.


25 posted on 02/11/2015 2:01:22 PM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: juliosevero

Gateway Pundit creds to you


26 posted on 02/11/2015 2:11:10 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: juliosevero

“”Barack Obama “deceived” Pastor Rick Warren during the 2008 presidential election in an appearance at Warren’s Saddleback Church””

That’s ok - Warren deceives his congregation with every sermon he gives. The two of them know no other way!


27 posted on 02/11/2015 2:26:29 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: juliosevero

Always keep this in mind when dealing with muslims: it’s okay for muslims to lie to infidels.


28 posted on 02/11/2015 3:22:22 PM PST by lakecumberlandvet (APPEASEMENT NEVER WORKS.)
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