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WAPO: American Police Could Help Themselves by Shooting Less, Talking More
Breitbart - Big Government ^ | 6-11-2015 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 06/11/2015 5:17:29 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot

On June 11 The Washington Post intimated that police in America might not face the tensions they currently face if they shot less and talked more.

The Post reached this verdict via a comparison between the tactics of “lightly armed” British police and those of heavily armed Americans.

According to WAPO, “the elite cadre of British cops who are entrusted with guns almost never use them. Police in Britain have fatally shot two people in the past three years.” They then report that shooting two people in three years is “less than the average number of people shot and killed by police every day in the United States over the first five months of 2015.”

They quote various sources to suggest the lack of police shootings in Britain are the result of “extremely tight protocols” whereby “shooting at moving vehicles, people brandishing knives and suspects fleeing a scene are all strictly forbidden except under extreme circumstances.”

Greater Manchester Police chief Peter Fahy said, “There’s a huge emphasis on human rights, a huge emphasis on proportionality, a huge emphasis on considering every other option.”

Note the focus on “proportionality,” which indicates that police do not respond with greater force–greater weaponry–than confronts them. This was our unspoken policy in the Vietnam War, and how did that work out? (Read the rest of the article)

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1 posted on 06/11/2015 5:17:29 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot
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To: Sir Napsalot

**** “According to WAPO, “the elite cadre of British cops who are entrusted with guns almost never use them. Police in Britain have fatally shot two people in the past three years.” They then report that shooting two people in three years is “less than the average number of people shot and killed by police every day in the United States over the first five months of 2015.” ****

Question that needs to be asked ... How many of these elite went home to their families after their shift?

TT


2 posted on 06/11/2015 5:21:12 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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To: Sir Napsalot

I would say it depends on who they are dealing with. On the whole, I would agree.

We need PEACE OFFICERS, not LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. The mentality difference is why we are having the problems we are having today with everyday encounters with cops by people who are assumed to be criminals from the beginning. When calling the cops to your house becomes an avenue for regular people needing help being shot, people having medical issues being shot because they won’t “obey commands”, when the first inclination is to SHOOT, and revenue collection is the next objective, we are not dealing with PEACE OFFICERS. When the only standing order is everything went fine (including dead homeowner who thought criminal thugs were invading his home at 3 am) as long as all the officers go home, you aren’t dealing with PEACE OFFICERS.

I have cops in the family, I know what happens to people after 20 years on patrol. I know the mentality shift.


3 posted on 06/11/2015 5:24:07 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

This written by someone who doesn’t know which end the round comes out of.


4 posted on 06/11/2015 5:29:33 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Sir Napsalot

Americans are actually becoming afraid of cops showing up, anywhere, for any reason.

Calling the cops used to be the way to make the drama end, you were calling for the calm to come and settle the men down, now, the results are sometimes unimaginable to Americans old enough to remember the past.

A growing number of people are thinking that calling the cops today is to invite chaos, death, and destruction into your family home, and that whatever the issue is with uncle Harry, that it can’t be as bad as getting people killed and thousands of dollars worth of damage to the house and the cars in the driveway, and the dogs being executed.

Even carrying a couple of thousands dollars to go buy something, has people not hoping to see plenty of cops on the way to make them feel safe, but instead terrified that a cop will rob them.


5 posted on 06/11/2015 5:35:03 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: TexasTransplant

At the high end of the 99.999-99.99999999% range.

What’s your point?


6 posted on 06/11/2015 5:49:11 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (The enemy's gate is down....and to the left.)
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To: TexasTransplant

More specifically, ZERO UK police died in the line of duty since 22 September 2013, and the weapon used in that case was a car; and ZERO killed by gunshot since 18 September 2012.


7 posted on 06/11/2015 5:53:26 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (The enemy's gate is down....and to the left.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

What’s the population of the UK compared to this country? Every one of these liberals, socialists and communists always want to compare us with Europe. If they are so enamored with the European countries, why in the hell don’t just move there? We left Europe because we didn’t like the way they were doing things. And we built a country very different from Europe.


8 posted on 06/11/2015 5:55:46 PM PDT by gingerbread
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To: Sir Napsalot

I wonder if there’s any relationship between unarmed Brit cops and Brit children being gang-raped by Muslims?

Just curious if there’s a causal relationship there....


9 posted on 06/11/2015 6:01:23 PM PDT by JJ_Folderol (Diagonally parked in a parallel universe...)
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To: gingerbread
Sometime in the next fifty years the British will be facing a demographic crisis. There will be many more unassimilable Muslims who be making up a very sizable pct. of the population. They will demanding sharia law and committing a very large pct. of violent crime. Like they do now.

The British populace, being mostly anti-gun and totally unarmed, will be forced to make some difficult choices thanks to decades of liberal policies that will have brought the catastrophe on them.

10 posted on 06/11/2015 6:03:06 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: Sir Napsalot

So as some thug is trying to bash your face in, you’re supposed to chat with him?


11 posted on 06/11/2015 6:14:17 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: Secret Agent Man

**** “We need PEACE OFFICERS, not LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS” ****

Locally we have REVENUE ENHANCEMENT AGENTS... our last Mayor got ousted for letting that little Cat out the bag.
They still are... now they just target the tourists.

TT


12 posted on 06/11/2015 6:20:27 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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To: driftless2

These liberals, socialists and communists in this country would dearly love for all of us to live the way Europeans are living. As of today, they have completely put our police force on the defensive. Pretty soon, our police department wouldn’t want to put their lives on the line for any one. Then we’ll have complete anarchy. This will give them a reason to bring in the federal government in to all our cities, to control the anarchy


13 posted on 06/11/2015 6:21:41 PM PDT by gingerbread
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To: gingerbread

Pretty soon, our police department wouldn’t want to put their lives on the line for any one.

At that point I will take care of situation myself.

5.56s aimed true!


14 posted on 06/11/2015 6:33:32 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: ExGeeEye

We must have been separated from each other at an early age...

From your Home Page... (by the way I’m really lovin your page)

**** “The lesson of Vietnam? Don’t let traitors in the media determine the conditions of victory” ****

HELL YES

Nor the Rules of Engagement!

TT


15 posted on 06/11/2015 6:39:14 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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To: Red_Devil 232

**** “At that point I will take care of situation myself” ****

What is stoppin ya now?

TT


16 posted on 06/11/2015 6:41:03 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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To: Sir Napsalot

The courts could help the police by shooting, hanging, electrocuting, and/or poisoning more criminals.

But they’re too corrupt to be trusted with the responsibility so the police have to bear it.


17 posted on 06/11/2015 6:43:56 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

The police are following this advice in selected localities, for example, Baltimore. Next week, WaPo will run an OpEd running the other direction.


18 posted on 06/11/2015 6:50:18 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

“American Police Could Help Themselves by Shooting Less, Talking More”

A kinder, gentler, hands off Police Department has resulted in Baltimore having criminals in charge. More evidence that liberalism is a mental illness.


19 posted on 06/11/2015 7:05:02 PM PDT by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Sir Napsalot
WAPO: American Police Could Help Themselves by Shooting Less, Talking dying More.

There.
Fixed it.

Terminally PC Morons!

20 posted on 06/11/2015 7:29:19 PM PDT by publius911 (If you like Obamacare, You'll LOVE ObamaWeb.)
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