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To: Oldpuppymax

Wheres the Court factor in?


2 posted on 07/02/2015 8:48:38 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

“The court” won’t be walking up to a gunowner’s door and demanding their firearms.

The person actually doing it will be in a bit more “clench” mode than some black robed tyrant issuing a decree.


7 posted on 07/02/2015 9:01:18 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: driftdiver
Just guessing, the court factors in by being inclined to (continue to) uphold a federal fee for possession of a firearm. Combine upholding the "fees" under 1934 NFA as not an infringement; plus finding mandatory insurance to be constitutional as long as there is a tax penalty for failing to procure insurance.

It's sort of fun to guess where SCOTUS will end up on issues like that, but it really is just guesswork. My guess is SCOTUS would uphold a federally mandated liability insurance under RKBA. Courts are hostile to the RKBA, and impose as much burden as they feel their credibility admits.

18 posted on 07/02/2015 9:33:34 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: driftdiver
The power to tax is the power to destroy.
The federal government has ALL SSN / PII records of firearms purchases since at least the 1990’s Brady bill required background checks. Very confident records were never purged as promised.
If mandatory firearm insurance law passes, then IRS will likely be involved just as they are with Obolacare.
BATF shares firearm purchase info with IRS, who will then require annual evidence of firearm insurance policy.

I would not rule out any unconstitutional action at this point from Obola, Valerie and leftists during his last year in office.
As we've seen during TPA/P Fast track, Obolacare tax decision, there is no credible majority opposition that can be relied upon to stop anything Obola wants.
And as Rahm warned, we can count on them to use a crisis to seize the day to further their ambitions.
Tinfoil hat prophesy:
Obola & co will crash the economy Greek style.
Federal benefit relief aid demands soar as currency crisis, unemployment escalates.
Violence ensures as a result of desperation.
The people in their misery call for gov’t to do something.
Media launches incessant 24 x 7 campaign howling that a civil society needs to reign in gun bloodshed for the sake of national survival.
Argument will be:
1. automobiles are potentially lethal, as are firearms.
2. Responsible car users accept liability insurance requirement, so why shouldn't firearms owners?

Anti - 2nd Ammendment law / mandatory firearm insurance, possibly by way of executive stroke of the pen.
Link federal & state benefit payouts (EBT, SocSec, etc) to IRS compliance Health Ins & Firearm Ins evidence.
Benefits will be refused if not compliant.
DHS’s “See (suspect) something, say something” program encourages reward seeking neighbor to report on “gun nut” neighbors to aid enforcement.
Non compliance of mandatory firearms insurance will result in Huge fines, and denial of federal / state benefits.
Perhaps it'll go down something like that..

These days it's easy to have a dystopic imagination ;n)

25 posted on 07/02/2015 10:11:19 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: driftdiver

that is exactly what I was thinking...

thinking on this site will get you banned..

be careful


35 posted on 07/02/2015 3:12:58 PM PDT by joe fonebone (Time to put the taxpayer first)
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