The 4th Branch of Government Must Be Destroyed

PoliticallyShort.com ^ | 08/16/2015 | PoliticallyShort

[Jacquerie]

<>It is time for the ever winding road of the administrative state to be closed and rerouted towards the path that once again leads us back to our Constitution.<>

Right.

How?

[GeronL]

good question

[ForYourChildren]

Administrative law is not a lawful form of implementation within the constitution and should not be considered a fourth branch.

There is a constitutionally identified fourth branch.

Our federal government is a creation of the states. When this creation gets out of control, then the states have the right to abolish it or change it.

Besides the three branches of federal government that we are aware of, there exists a fourth branch which most people forget, it is the states. And actually, as mentioned above, this fourth branch has more power and authority than any of othe other three combined.

The constitution is currently not being followed, as identified by this article on illegal and unconstitutional use of administrative law. Therefore we don’t have a constitution.

It is time for the fourth branch to assume it’s proper authority, and alter or abolish the other three.

[Repeal The 17th]

There is no such thing as a 4th branch of our government.
That is all a bunch of made-up male bovine feces.

[Intolerant in NJ]

Liked some of what Ben Carson was saying about changing the structure of government - term limits for judges including the Supreme Court - six year term for President with no running again - eight years for Representatives, but with recall elections every two years if they misbehave - no running again for them either - end the professional political class, and with it the lobbyists, consultants, and crony governmentalists.....

[Nifster]

This is not news...better posted somewhere else

[Sasparilla]

Administrative law is a creation and a tool of the executive branch designed to implement, interpret, and enforce rules and regulations promulgated by government commissions, agencies, bureaus, departments, and other executive branch subdivisions. No way is it a fourth branch.

[Rusty0604]

Didn’t our elected politicians create these agencies and grant them their power? We can elect politicians that will dismantle them.

[Rusty0604]

We elect people that promise to get things done, but once they get to D.C. they forget the promises because they are all just running for re-election.

[em2vn]

Excellent article:insightful, informative and accurate.

[Logical me]

Some ask how? By removing the organizations like EPA, BLM, etc. Force issues to go back to the House, Senate, and President. Build new EPA, BLM etc and make them advisory only. No regulations can be from these advisory organs but must be presented to members of the House and or Senate for consideration.

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

The [Federal Trade] Commission promulgates substantive rules of conduct. The Commission then considers whether to authorize investigations into whether the Commission’s rules have been violated. If the Commission authorizes an investigation, the investigation is conducted by the Commission, which reports its findings to the Commission. If the Commission thinks that the Commission’s findings warrant an enforcement action, the Commission issues a complaint. The Commission’s complaint that a Commission rule has been violated is then prosecuted by the Commission and adjudicated by the Commission. This Commission adjudication can either take place before the full Commission or before a semi-autonomous Commission administrative law judge. If the Commission chooses to adjudicate before an administrative law judge rather than before the Commission and the decision is adverse to the Commission, the Commission can appeal to the Commission. If the Commission ultimately finds a violation, then, and only then, the affected private party can appeal to an Article III court. But the agency decision, even before the bona fide Article III tribunal, possesses a very strong presumption of correctness on matters both of fact and of law.

Kafka was right.

[batterycommander]

I believe that one way to control the “Fourth Branch” is to require all monies collected by them be turned into the Treasury and spent as determined by Congress.

[Jacquerie]

Yes, in theory we can elect pols to dismantle them.

In practice, the isn’t any personal, electoral reason for politicians to do so.

Since the administrative state relieves elected pols from making contentious decisions that could get them “unelected,” the tendency is to unconstitutionally, yet willingly assign ever more powers from congress to arbitrary bureaucrats.

[The_Media_never_lie]

Which branch of govt. is the ministry of propaganda?

[familyop]

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[itsahoot]

No regulations can be from these advisory organs but must be presented to members of the House and or Senate for consideration.

Never happen leaves no time for Cocktail Parties, and strong arming donors.

[ripley]

The fourth branch of government is the Progressive movement.

IMHO

[ri4dc]

I honestly thought the fourth branch of Govmint was Hollywood and Media. :)