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Cruz donors accused of money laundering, helping tax cheats, pro-amnesty revisionist history
cocachisright.com ^ | Jan, 6, 2016 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 01/06/2016 5:21:08 AM PST by jmaroneps37

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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Let’s make one thing entirely clear. I am no fan of the big, international investment banks (Goldman and others) and the way they operate. They frequently operate on the fringe of the law and sound banking practices, but let’s not pretend that their activities are beyond the view of governments - ours and others around the world. In many cases, their behavior is knowingly facilitated by governments; in our case, by members of Congress passing laws that allow or encourage them to do what they do (while members wink, nod and criticize them publicly) and by Executive Branch agencies that selectively conduct investigations and prosecutions when they go beyond the bounds of the law.

As to the meltdown of 2008, while Goldman’s actions certainly didn’t help, it was not just Goldman’s handling of AAA debt that led to the meltdown. Laws passed by Congress, the threat of lawsuits and prosecution and the modifications (easing) of lending practices pushed by the government go back to at least 1992 and began to coalesce into an industry-wide crisis in 2006. Some banks and hedge funds, including Goldman, saw early on that the housing bubble was very tenuous and shorted/bet against their own securities to protect their assets (while they weren’t entirely forthcoming with their individual investors). The widespread distribution of derivatives, which basically spread the “disease” (bad debt, i.e., the result of bad lending practices pushed by the government) throughout the banking industry pushed the economy over the edge.

What’s really interesting today is that Congress is in the process of doing the very same thing again.


41 posted on 01/06/2016 7:07:15 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: ManHunter

“... it was not just Goldman’s handling of AAA debt that led to the meltdown ...”

And Goldman was propped up with massive bailout money when they were one of the worst offenders.


42 posted on 01/06/2016 7:09:48 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The DNC 2012 Convention actually booed God three times)
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To: Liz

Thank you, Liz. God bless you for your hard work.


43 posted on 01/06/2016 7:13:08 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The DNC 2012 Convention actually booed God three times)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
A GOLDMAN SACHS FAIRY TALE Once upon a time, Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel was a (snix) penniless Democrat machine go-fer back in the 1980s.....before he became (1) Bill Clinton's national campaign finance chairman and served a dual role as (2) Clinton's senior White House aide, AND, (3) a Goldman Sachs lobbyist.

After Rahm "accidentally" became a multi-millionaire, thanks to a measly few months at a Wall Street investment firm......he decided to run for Congress (was there for four terms).

Hard-scrabble Rahm's accidental stumble into politics culminated in Rahm picked as (1) Obama's White House chief of staff .... and a dual role as (2) Obama's hand-picked man at Treasury with an unarticulated "job description."

Later, when he left the WH---penniless, of course---Rahm held a presser declaring he "just remembered" he really, Really wanted to be Mayor of Chicago.

Then Rahm happily announced he had "accidentally" raised $30 million for his campaign "in just a matter of weeks."

Golly, I hope the poverty-stricken little bugger did not "accidentally" wire-transfer federal tax dollars offshore at the time he was in a dual role as Obama's COS AND in charge of the entire US Treasury.

Sob.

44 posted on 01/06/2016 7:13:27 AM PST by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Hey, no argument here; I’m not defending Goldman or TARP!


45 posted on 01/06/2016 7:28:10 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: jmaroneps37

Here’s a suggestion, if one is concerned about Cruz’s indebtedness to donors: pull the records from his Senate campaign. Now, is there any indication that Cruz has been championing the causes of questionable donor groups?

They great thing about experienced candidates is that they have records to vet.


46 posted on 01/06/2016 7:31:44 AM PST by brothers4thID ("We've had way too many Republicans whose #1 virtue is "I get along great with Democrats".")
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

You asked for my opinion and I gave you an honest answer. If I could, I’d tell you about some other banks that, in my opinion, are at least as bad as Goldman, but don’t get the level of attention that Goldman does. (There’s a reason I attached that particular link in my original post...)

By way of full disclosure, I’m no Milton Friedman.

Cheers!


47 posted on 01/06/2016 7:32:04 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: jmaroneps37

Same ol’ shtick. Hi. I’m from the media and I’m here to help you choose the best candidate. I’m smarter and wiser than you. You can trust me. Let me guide you?

Do not trust the opinions of the media. Their goal is to divide and confuse us. Stay united and vote conservative.


48 posted on 01/06/2016 7:36:43 AM PST by Texicanus (Texas, it's like a whole 'nother country.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

And keep in mind that Trump suggested that “the right people, like Goldman Sachs” should be in charge of bailout money.


49 posted on 01/06/2016 7:37:22 AM PST by brothers4thID ("We've had way too many Republicans whose #1 virtue is "I get along great with Democrats".")
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To: jmaroneps37
The Goldman Sachs connection is a potential issue. She's a managing director there, not some low-level employee.
50 posted on 01/06/2016 7:45:26 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: jmaroneps37

Coach has gone off the rails. Guilt by association, not good logic. Doubtless even if true, that there are also other donors for other campaigns that are also tax cheats.


51 posted on 01/06/2016 7:59:42 AM PST by JSDude1
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I don't want him smeared with this stuff. The media is just waiting for the right time to jump on this material.

Concern troll.

52 posted on 01/06/2016 8:48:42 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: jmaroneps37
financial and volunteer support from Wallbuilders, an anti- amnesty Evangelical group whose founder, David Barton, has written a book on Thomas Jefferson that is frankly ridiculous and justifiably mocked by Jeffersonian scholars.

What's "ridiculous" about his book? And are those "Jeffersonian scholars" the typical leftist academics?

53 posted on 01/06/2016 8:50:33 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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We're supposed to panic because a Cruz supporter wrote a supposedly bad history book? Reeks of desperation.
54 posted on 01/06/2016 8:56:23 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: jmaroneps37

Oh my.


55 posted on 01/06/2016 9:19:36 AM PST by conservative98
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To: jmaroneps37

What about the donors to Hillary and her foundation? If he is the nominee and the media thinks his donors are problematic, I certainly hope it could be put to rest by looking at Hillary’s corporate and terrorists donors.


56 posted on 01/06/2016 1:51:28 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: fatnotlazy

They give to both sides, just like Trump says he did as a businessman. The business donors to Obama have done really well. That is one thing I like about Trump, not taking donations. But unfortunately most people are not in a position to do that.


57 posted on 01/06/2016 1:56:41 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Liz

“Which scenario is more plausible, thousands of scientists pretending to believe in global warming to get government grants or Cruz denying it to get campaign donations?”

Wow. You’re really willing to back the left’s global warming scam just to attack Cruz???

I could name about 100 other staunch conservatives that also rightly oppose that crap. You’re throwing them all under the bus too just to make that lame attack.


58 posted on 01/06/2016 3:28:16 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Liz

Thank you, Liz. Linked it to reference page and also for personal file.

Blast from the past:

Deadfish Rahm Emanuel, A fish tale - Rahm Emanuel once mailed a dead fish to a pollster
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2211485/posts

FRegards ...


59 posted on 01/07/2016 4:08:09 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The DNC 2012 Convention actually booed God three times)
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To: ManHunter

I still like Cruz. And I like his ‘jump the shark’ response. He’s proving to be a capable campaigner.


60 posted on 01/07/2016 4:10:49 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The DNC 2012 Convention actually booed God three times)
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