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Donald Trump claims George W Bush lied about WMDs to justify Iraq invasion
Blasting News ^ | February 14, 2016 | Mark R. Whittington

Posted on 02/14/2016 5:36:58 AM PST by Marcus

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To: BobL

What was the number one issue that prevented the US from detecting the planning on 9/11? The answer is....intelligence and why couldn’t we get good intelligence? Because we had just about zero presence in the Middle East. So what did the Bush administration do? Saddam Hussein rolled out the red carpet for years, just daring us and Bush took him up on it. We developed a geographical infrastructure in the ME, with air and military bases. We inserted ourselves between Iran and Syria and we owned a country, which gave us the ability to develop INTELLIGENCE. What did Obama do????? He shut it down. THE BRILLIANT MILITARY SCHOOL GRADUATE, DONALD TRUMP SHOULD KNOW THIS......


21 posted on 02/14/2016 6:01:05 AM PST by Toespi
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To: sarasota

During the time that US was entering Iraq, I saw still pictures right here on FR showing those trucks that you mention.


22 posted on 02/14/2016 6:01:09 AM PST by ncpatriot
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To: ncpatriot

I knew there were others who had seen it. So I’m still standing firm that there were WMDs in Iraq that they were moved to Syria.


23 posted on 02/14/2016 6:03:32 AM PST by sarasota
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To: bray

watching him makes me want to punch him too. He is such a little whiney , pansy, mothers boy who think is he is owed the Presidency.

Trying to look tough to Trump was pathetic and what was with the crowd always cheering him on his every word anyway.

The sooner he goes the better.


24 posted on 02/14/2016 6:05:54 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Marcus
As a Hold my nose Trump supporter, this bothers me. But then, it bothers me even more that Bush/Rove never uttered a syllable in defense through years of horrific political assault.

So GWB deserves to be dumped on the ash heap and covered in the dung from critics. I will never forgive him for not fighting back and defending himself and all those who supported him.

So as I hold my nose and plug my ears, while Trump uses GWB for a pinata, I yearn for Trump to focus his aim on Hillary.

25 posted on 02/14/2016 6:11:03 AM PST by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: Marcus

That is not a new charge:

(CNN) — The Bush administration began planning to use U.S. troops to invade Iraq within days after the former Texas governor entered the White House three years ago, former Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill told CBS News’ 60 Minutes.


26 posted on 02/14/2016 6:12:03 AM PST by odawg
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To: BobL

And by not defending himself, W took those of us who supported him down with him.

Screw the Bushes.


27 posted on 02/14/2016 6:13:19 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician/Journalist. Some assembly required.)
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To: Marcus
GW Bush said during his campaigning that there would be no nation building in his Administration and that's exactly what he did. What should have been a simple retaliatory military expedition ended up becoming a multi-trillion dollar unwinnable war because we don't find wars to win, we fight them to destroy countries then spend our money and spend our soldiers lives building them up again so they will love is.

Only it hasn't worked since the Marshal Plan which looks like it's going to fail some 60 years later as Europe gets overrun and intimidated by Islamunists.

28 posted on 02/14/2016 6:14:43 AM PST by Fhios (circa 2016: Truth will be outlawed unless pre-approved.)
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To: manc

The stacked crowd was the biggest scandal. Neither the RNC nor CBS did anything about it - they are going full scorched earth out of desperation.


29 posted on 02/14/2016 6:15:24 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: Marcus

isn’t that what the media has been telling us all these years?


30 posted on 02/14/2016 6:16:32 AM PST by Mr. K (Trump/Cruz 2016)
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To: Toespi

Trump likely knows it. But he’s got his foot on Jeb’s neck also knows not to let go, at least until he screams uncle (i.e., drops out). Trump’s not taking any chances with him...and he’s right - Bush is still the GOPe’s man, he’s still got the money and the connections.


31 posted on 02/14/2016 6:16:51 AM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: Marcus

Trump showed himself to be an $ss and a liar.


32 posted on 02/14/2016 6:17:54 AM PST by D Rider
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To: manc

W hasn’t said a word for seven years. Not a word about how badly the VA treated the vets. Now because his mother might use cattle prods on him if he doesn’t defend his little brother he is finding his voice. Not once did W call Obama out. But the GOP candidates better duck and cover. W you left the real fight against Barry. You forgot who you came to the dance with and it wasn’t your brother. It was all those men and women who fought under your flag.


33 posted on 02/14/2016 6:18:28 AM PST by magua
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To: over3Owithabrain

The crowd acted like ignorant children , instead of being adults who wanted to hear the other guys opinions.

They were there to make it look like Bush was the best guy who had the best policies while drowning out anyone whom went after him.

The establishment is so desperate to get their guy in power


34 posted on 02/14/2016 6:20:00 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Marcus

Hans Blick said there was no stockpiled WMDs in Iraq.

GW Bush HIMSELF at no point in time EVER defended WMDs in Iraq. He NEVER claimed to have found them. NEVER.

So, for someone to say he ignored Blick and pushed his own agenda would be an okay position, given the FACTS.

FOR ME, it never was about stockpiled WMDs. It was about recipes and capability to produce small quantities.

But BUSH wouldn’t defend even that!


35 posted on 02/14/2016 6:20:21 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Helicondelta

Chemical weapons are considered WMD, ie...NBC, now CBRNE


36 posted on 02/14/2016 6:20:35 AM PST by D Rider
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To: Bidimus1; Marcus

Yes. Chemical weapons are weapons of mass destruction.

The term the Department of Defense has used for decades is NBC: nuclear, biological, chemical. After 9/11, we learned that commercial airplanes could cause great damage also. So a new term, weapons of mass destruction, became popular. Think of it as NBC+.


37 posted on 02/14/2016 6:21:06 AM PST by ChessExpert (The unemployment rate was 4.5% when Democrats took control of Congress in 2006.)
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To: Arm_Bears

“And by not defending himself, W took those of us who supported him down with him...Screw the Bushes.”

AND THE COUNTRY, but letting the Dems run their 2006 Congressional campaign on Bush’s ‘lies’ which DIRECTLY LED to Obamacare.

There are more than a handful of us Republicans that are still mad as hell about W Bush and his ‘new tone’ that made a TOTAL MESS of our country.


38 posted on 02/14/2016 6:23:22 AM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: odawg

He had to finish Daddy’s war.


39 posted on 02/14/2016 6:23:47 AM PST by jimbo807
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To: Helicondelta

“Chemical weapons are not weapons of mass destruction. Just about every country in the world has them.”

Chemical weapons are indeed weapons of mass destruction. Due to the statements of the following national and international legal authorities, I must suggest you should respect their authority by retracting your erroneous statement of denial.

Example 1

U.S. Code; Title 50 - WAR AND NATIONAL DEFENSE; Chapter 43 - PREVENTING WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION PROLIFERATION AND TERRORISM; Sec. 2902 - Definitions: In this chapter: . . . (2) The terms “weapons of mass destruction” and “WMD” mean chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons, and chemical, biological, and nuclear materials used in the manufacture of such weapons.

Example 2

Resolution of the Commission for Conventional Armaments, August 12, 1948 (1)

The Commission for Conventional Armaments resolves to advise the Security Council:

1. that it considers that all armaments and armed forces, except atomic weapons and weapons of mass destruction, fall within its jurisdiction and that weapons of mass destruction should be defined to include atomic explosive weapons, radio active material weapons, lethal chemical and biological weapons, and any weapons developed in the future which have characteristics comparable in destructive effect to those of the atomic bomb or other weapons mentioned above.

2. that it proposes to proceed with its work on the basis of the above definition.

(1) Department of State Bulletin of August 29, 1048, p. 268

Example 3

Convention on the Prohibition of the Development, Production and Stockpiling of Bacteriological (Biological) and Toxin Weapons and on Their Destruction (1972)

ENTRY INTO FORCE: 26 March 1975

The States Parties to this Convention,

Determine to act with a view to achieving effective progress toward general and complete disarmament, including the prohibition and elimination of all types of weapons of mass destruction, and convinced that the prohibition of the development, production and stockpiling of chemical and bacteriological (biological) weapons and their elimination, through effective measures, will facilitate the achievement of general and complete disarmament under strict and effective control,

Recognizing the important significance of the Protocol for the Prohibition of the Use in War of Asphyxiating, Poisonous or Other Gases, and of Bacteriological Methods of Warfare, signed at Geneva on June 17, 1925, and conscious also of the contribution which the said Protocol has already made and continues to make, to mitigating the horrors of war,

Reaffirming their adherence to the principles and objectives of that Protocol and calling upon all States to comply strictly with them,

Recalling that the General Assembly of the United Nations has repeatedly condemned all actions contrary to the principles and objectives of the Geneva Protocol of June 17, 1925,

Desiring to contribute to the strengthening of confidence between peoples and the general improvement of the international atmosphere,

Desiring also to contribute to the realization of the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations,

Convinced of the importance and urgency of eliminating from the arsenals of States, through effective measures, such dangerous weapons of mass destruction as those using chemical or bacteriological (biological) agents,

Recognizing that an agreement on the prohibition of bacteriological (biological) and toxin weapons represents a first possible step towards the achievement of agreement on effective measures also for the prohibition of the development, production and stockpiling of chemical weapons, and determined to continue negotiations to that end,

Determined, for the sake of all mankind, to exclude completely the possibility of bacteriological (biological) agents and toxins being used as weapons,

Convinced that such use would be repugnant to the conscience of mankind and that no effort should be spared to minimize this risk,

Have agreed as follows:

ARTICLE I

Each State Party to this Convention undertakes never in any circumstance to develop, produce, stockpile or otherwise acquire or retain:

(1) Microbial or other biological agents, or toxins whatever their origin or method of production, of types and in quantities that have no justification for prophylactic, protective or other peaceful purposes;

(2) Weapons, equipment or means of delivery designed to use such agents or toxins for hostile purposes or in armed conflict.

ARTICLE II

Each State Party to this Convention undertakes to destroy, or to divert to peaceful purposes, as soon as possible but not later than nine months after the entry into force of the Convention, all agents, toxins, weapons, equipment and means of delivery specified in article I of the Convention, which are in its possession or under its jurisdiction or control. In implementing the provisions of this article all necessary safety precautions shall be observed to protect populations and the environment.

ARTICLE III

Each State Party to this Convention undertakes not to transfer to any recipient whatsoever, directly or indirectly, and not in any way to assist, encourage, or induce any State, group of States or international organizations to manufacture or otherwise acquire any of the agents, toxins, weapons, equipment or means of delivery specified in article I of the Convention.

ARTICLE IV

Each State Party to this Convention shall, in accordance with its constitutional processes, takes any necessary measures to prohibit and prevent the development, production, stockpiling, acquisition or retention of the agents, toxins, weapons, equipment and means of delivery specified in article I of the Convention, within the territory of such State, under its jurisdiction or under its control anywhere.

ARTICLE V

The States Parties to this Convention undertake to consult one another and to cooperate in solving any problems which may arise in relation to the objective of, or in the application of the provisions of, the Convention. Consultation and cooperation pursuant to this article may also be undertaken through appropriate international procedures within the framework of the United Nations and in accordance with its Charter.

ARTICLE VI

(1) Any State Party to this Convention which finds that any other State Party is acting in breach of obligations deriving from the provisions of the Convention may lodge a complaint with the Security Council of the United Nations. Such a complaint should include all possible evidence confirming its validity, as well as a request for its consideration by the Security Council.

(2) Each State Party to this Convention undertakes to cooperate in carrying out any investigation which the Security Council may initiate, in accordance with the provisions of the Charter of the United Nations, on the basis of the complaint received by the Council. The Security Council shall inform the States Parties to the Convention of the results of the investigation.

ARTICLE VII

Each State Party to this Convention undertakes to provide or support assistance, in accordance with the United Nations Charter, to any Party to the Convention which so requests, if the Security Council decides that such Party has been exposed to danger as a result of violation of the Convention.

ARTICLE VIII

Nothing in this Convention shall be interpreted as in any way limiting or detracting from the obligations assumed by any State under the Protocol for the Prohibition of the Use in War of Asphyxiating, Poisonous or Other Gases, and of Bacteriological Methods of Warfare, signed at Geneva on June 17, 1925.

ARTICLE IX

Each State Party to this Convention affirms the recognized objective of effective prohibition of chemical weapons and, to this end, undertakes to continue negotiations in good faith with a view to reaching early agreement on effective measures for the prohibition of their development, production and stockpiling and for their destruction, and on appropriate measures concerning equipment and means of delivery specifically designed for the production or use of chemical agents for weapons purposes.

ARTICLE X

(1) The States Parties to this Convention undertake to facilitate, and have the right to participate in, the fullest possible exchange of equipment, materials and scientific and technological information for the use of bacteriological (biological) agents and toxins for peaceful purposes. Parties to the Convention in a position to do so shall also cooperate in contributing individually or together with other States or international organizations to the further development and application of scientific discoveries in the field of bacteriology (biology) for prevention of disease, or for other peaceful purposes.

(2) This Convention shall be implemented in a manner designed to avoid hampering the economic or technological development of States Parties to the Convention or international cooperation in the field of peaceful bacteriological (biological) activities, including the international exchange of bacteriological (biological) agents and toxins and equipment for the processing, use or production of bacteriological (biological) agents and toxins for peaceful purposes in accordance with the provisions of the Convention.

ARTICLE XI

Any State Party may propose amendments to this Convention. Amendments shall enter into force for each State Party accepting the amendments upon their acceptance by a majority of the States Parties to the Convention and thereafter for each remaining State Party on the date of acceptance by it.

ARTICLE XII

Five years after the entry into force of this Convention, or earlier if it is requested by a majority of the Parties to the Convention by submitting a proposal to this effect to the Depositary Governments, a conference of States Parties to the Convention shall be held at Geneva, Switzerland, to review the operation of the Convention, with a view to assuring that the purposes of the preamble and the provisions of the Convention, including the provisions concerning negotiations on chemical weapons, are being realized. Such review shall take into account any new scientific and technological developments relevant to the Convention.

ARTICLE XIII

(1) This Convention shall be of unlimited duration.

(2) Each State Party to this Convention shall in exercising its natural sovereignty have the right to withdraw from the Convention if it decides that extraordinary events, related to the subject matter of the Convention, have jeopardized the supreme interests of its country. It shall give notice of such withdrawal to all other States Parties to the Convention and to the United Nations Security Council three months in advance. Such notice shall include a statement of the extraordinary events it regards as having jeopardized its supreme interests.

ARTICLE XIV

(1) This Convention shall be open to all States for signature. Any State which does not sign the Convention before its entry into force in accordance with paragraph (3) of this Article may accede to it at any time.

(2) This Convention shall be subject to ratification by signatory States. Instruments of ratification and instruments of accession shall be deposited with the Governments of the United States of America, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, which are hereby designated the Depositary Governments.

(3) This Convention shall enter into force after the deposit of instruments of ratification by twenty-two Governments, including the Governments designated as Depositaries of the Convention.

(4) For States whose instruments of ratification or accession are deposited subsequent to the entry into force of this Convention, it shall enter into force on the date of the deposit of their instrument of ratification or accession.

(5) The Depositary Governments shall promptly inform all signatory and acceding States of the date of each signature, the date of deposit of each instrument of ratification or of accession and the date of the entry into force of this Convention, and of the receipt of other notices.

(6) This Convention shall be registered by the Depositary Governments pursuant to Article 102 of the Charter of the United Nations.

ARTICLE XV

This Convention, the English, Russian, French, Spanish and Chinese texts of which are equally authentic, shall be deposited in the archives of the Depositary Governments. Duly certified copies of the Convention shall be transmitted by the Depositary Governments of the signatory and acceding States.


40 posted on 02/14/2016 6:26:33 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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