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Women in the Combat Arms: The Greatest Disaster in US Military History
US Defense Watch ^ | June 4, 2016 | Ray Starmann

Posted on 06/04/2016 8:10:27 PM PDT by pboyington

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To: Rabin; pboyington
Pboyington and the USDefenseWatch article are absolutely correct, Rabin. All warfare requires three things: training young men to kill other people and to not get killed themselves in the process, putting those young men into a cohesive and responsive organization for combat, and then getting them to the right time and place to effectively engage the enemy.

Short of daily injections of testosterone, women lack the hunter/killer drive that most men have that we use to hone them into proficient killers. (and as a side note, once they are developed into effective and willing killers, getting them to stop when they're told to.) Very, very few women are capable brutes.

Unit cohesion will be shredded with women within a unit. Sex will happen. Some of those of you on that isolated hilltop will be getting lucky while most of the others won't and they'll be resentful. How much mission focus do you see happening here? How likely will it be to see PFC A going to the rescue of PFC B when they are both in earnest competition for the lady PFC C? How confident will you feel in your Listening Posts at night when they include one female and one male?

If you are an unattached and unlucky male and you are assigned the point or any other dangerous mission, were you picked because you were the one they figured could be lost without anyone caring? Anybody remember that in this hotbed of sexual competition that everyone's armed?

Females (and openly-serving gays) have no place at all in combat. Combat is too difficult, too stressful, too isolated to introduce sexual dynamics and major physical differences.

I can only hope and pray that our military leaders will restore sanity after Obama and after trash like our current Service Secretaries are gone.

41 posted on 06/05/2016 5:16:51 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

“My theory is that because girls only compete with males in settings where...”

Your theory holds up to my experiences. Women have been arrogantly brainwashed into thinking these things. They are terrible at business, a prime reason American corporations are failing.


42 posted on 06/05/2016 5:20:01 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Chainmail
I can only hope and pray that our military leaders will restore sanity after Obama and after trash like our current Service Secretaries are gone.

Not going to happen.

43 posted on 06/05/2016 5:21:17 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

“Of course, males boots will be expected to “play fair,” and males will pick up princess’s slack on deployments...”

I think they might just be left behind, if it is a truly balls to the wall situation. Everyone would know this. I mean, they volunteered to weaken the unit and put their fellow soldiers at risk by being there in the first place. Constantly needing help and extra time to do things in the reality and stress of a combat zone might be a self correcting problem.

The only other way I can see it playing out is if they are treated like some sort of combat mascot that helps unit cohesion.

Freegards


44 posted on 06/05/2016 5:42:02 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: mj1234

This reminds me of some of the National Guard regiments at the start of WW2. Poorly trained and very badly led several broke and ran . Later on after weeding out they came back very well. Unfortunately it seems this has always been this way.
Americans don’t like spendthrift generals or high wastage rates and when the next fight starts we will have plenty of both for a while.


45 posted on 06/05/2016 5:50:41 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: PLMerite

I suspect the main driver of this push is simply more women in the government workforce (”workfare”); everything else just ripples through. That people are even suggesting this with a straight face after our two recent losses (Iraq, Afghanistan) indicates they never seriously expect women to see combat.


46 posted on 06/05/2016 6:02:03 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: pboyington

This is hilarious. It might be serious but there is no draft. They might well be drafting children over 13 or all elderly over 90. There is no draft. They’re making rules for something that doesn’t exist. And depending who is in power if it ever is re-established, will create deferments so fast, it will never get off the ground. This was pandering at its best. Big deal.

red


47 posted on 06/05/2016 7:03:04 AM PDT by Redwood71
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48 posted on 06/05/2016 7:07:21 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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OMG... her forearm is skinnier than the fore end of the M-16.

On all of them.

Tell me these are not real US Army.....


49 posted on 06/05/2016 7:14:01 AM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: Covenantor

It is, and it’s just one more mile marker on the road to disaster and collapse.

Thanks to the traitors and useful idiots.


50 posted on 06/05/2016 7:27:08 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: pboyington
The military says that good leadership will put a damper on human sex drive. Newsflash social engineers, no amount of ROTC Leadership 101 is going to stop an 18 year old with an erection in a movement to contact with a 36-24-36 cheerleader, Private Babs Horny. Get a grip; the Army and the Marines are about to become nothing more than a high school summer camp with guns and high explosives.

There was another quote that I saw on this subject years ago.. Paraphrasing...

Putting young men & women into gender integrated units and expecting that their won't be sexual activity is like mixing gasoline & dynamite and saying that we have a policy against matches.

51 posted on 06/05/2016 7:32:26 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Travis McGee

We are sooo screwed.

Scale comparison with the M-16 seems to indicate many are shorter than 5’-6” as well.

How can we get rid of them and the middle level entrenched military admin staff. Presumably there exist entire regiments of JAG’s that deal with nothing but diversity enforcement.


52 posted on 06/05/2016 7:34:18 AM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: Covenantor

The purge is virtually complete. Enough of the old guard has been fired/forced out, and the rest are P.C. cowards who just want to mark time to their pensions.

We won’t fix this, short of a calamity.


53 posted on 06/05/2016 7:35:57 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: DesertRhino

“When things get close to looking like a bad deployment is coming up, they will work morning noon and night to get impregnated so the unit will deploy understrength on day 1.”

Already happening in Support & Combat Service Support units all over the military. Women are non-deplorable at alarming rates, mostly due to pregnancy. The ones that do deploy are often sent home early for the same reason. The military hasn’t solved the problem in these units, and yet they are agreeable to extending the problem to actual combat units???


54 posted on 06/05/2016 7:39:12 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Travis McGee

So TRADOCS, that once tested and set training and doctrine is almost fully in that camp?


55 posted on 06/05/2016 7:40:27 AM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: Covenantor

110%.

Read about this guy, and what happened to him related to his “subject matter expert” briefs and lectures to the JCS, CIA, FBI etc. Not only was he purged and all jihad information purged, today, the military, FBI and CIA are not even allowed to use the words Islamic, jihad, etc. Imagine fighting WW2, but being forbidden to use the words Nazi, Hiter, Gestapo, SS etc, as being “anti-German slurs.” That is where we are today. Kookooland, done by traitors and cowardly useful idiots.

https://www.amazon.com/Catastrophic-Failure-Blindfolding-America-Jihad-ebook/dp/B00X6GH8PA?ie=UTF8&keywords=stephen%20coughlin&qid=1465137893&ref_=sr_1_1&s=digital-text&sr=1-1


56 posted on 06/05/2016 7:45:03 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Covenantor

Top Amazon review of Catastrophic Failure.

5.0 out of 5 stars

The book the White House does not want you to see.

By Ronald B on May 29, 2015
Format: Paperback Verified Purchase

In the interests of full disclosure, I haven’t finished the nearly 800 pages yet. The book is so worthy of study, it takes some time simply to absorb. (note: 6/20/2015 I have finished reading the entire book, and I recommend it even more than previously).

In October, 2011, John Brennan, Deputy National Security Advisor for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism and currently the head of the CIA, wrote a letter on White House stationary directing US security agencies such as the FBI, CIA, military intelligence, and homeland security, to immediately stop any classes or training material on terrorism which mentioned Islam. Award-winning instructors such as Stephen Coughlin, who was constantly in demand for his knowledgeable and thorough preparations, were completely shut off from training security and intelligence personnel in the canonical, theological, and historical basis for those observant Muslims who are responsible for a majority of terrorism today. Not only were experts such as Coughlin bared from any further instruction, but trainees who had taken classes from them were given “re-education” classes, whatever that meant.

Coughlin has now taken all of his material, notes, references, slides, explanations, and conclusions, edited them extensively for organization and coherence, and has put them into a book. In other words, security personnel interested in understanding the thinking, philosophy, and objectives of most terrorists, can now get the full content and organization of Coughin’s classes for $6 on the Kindle. A highly-regarded instructor and trainer, as a public service, has made the entire content of his presentations available to security personnel at a nominal price.

And, the material is available not only to security personnel, but to anyone who wishes an in-depth understanding of the philosophical basis and objectives of those who engage in jihad. It’s an unparalleled opportunity to sit in on a class presented by one of the most respected and sought-after trainers (prior to 2011) for high-level officials responsible for US security.

I guarantee this material is crucial not only for those not versed in the concepts of jihad, but for those who think they understand the basis of jihad in Islamic doctrine. One surprise for me was that the concept of abrogation, or successive replacement of Koranic verses by later ones, is not just a way to explain Muhammad’s inconsistencies, but abrogation is actually a critical feature in the development of jihad, as expounded in Sayyid Qutb’s “Milestones”.

Additional note after finishing the book. This is a warning. There’s a lot of material in the book, and it takes a lot of focus, particularly with the many unfamiliar names and terminology. It’s also depressing to see how completely the military and political leaders have failed the US citizens and the principles of the Constitution.

It also shows how sophisticated and determined the Islamic enemy is, and how determined to wipe out our liberties and freedoms. There’s a tendency to view Muslims as somewhat unsophisticated and somewhat uncomfortable in the technological world. In fact, the Muslim Brotherhood and its allies have thoroughly mastered the levers of national and international power. This is very, very thoroughly documented. Organized Islam, as led by the Muslim Brotherhood, has a coherent philosophy, strategy, and tactical repertoire to displace Western laws and government with sharia. They have systematically co-opted even our language. “Catastrophic Failure” provides the tools to see through the lies, evasions, and manipulations. It does take an effort. The nexus of covert invasion is extensive.


57 posted on 06/05/2016 7:49:35 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks very much for the Amazon link, it’s in my cart,

I just don’t see a peaceable way to deal with the depth and breadth of the traitors down to the dog catcher. Whatever that PC title is today.

Neither enough rope nor trees....


58 posted on 06/05/2016 8:19:08 AM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: Travis McGee

Aren’t they cute when they’re trying to be scary?


59 posted on 06/05/2016 8:28:48 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Tallguy
"Women are non-deplorable at alarming rates, mostly due to pregnancy."

Well, personally, I think that's pretty deplorable ...

60 posted on 06/05/2016 8:42:38 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Once is happenstance. Twice is circumstance. Three times is enemy action.)
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