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To: NOBO2012; dayglored; ShadowAce; ThunderSleeps
In actual fact, the private sector invented it. The funding may have come from contracts, but often the development was done on spec in hopes of getting a government contract that the companies doing the research and development simply did not get. Many of these development's Pelosi claims, especially the later development's that allowed for low energy uses that resulted in the iPhone came from the companies themselves and the competition from other cell phone companies. Pelosi is an idiot who has no clue about economics.

Pinging dayglored, Shadow Ace, and ThunderSleeps to this thread because a Democrat is claiming all technological development as a government creation. . . Including all smartphones.

13 posted on 06/11/2016 12:57:07 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue..)
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To: Swordmaker
In actual fact, the private sector invented it.
Socialists love to use euphemisms - “society” when they mean government,“liberal” or “progressive" when they mean socialist, and so on. What is needed, I’m sure you will agree, is a word which falls between the government, on the one hand, and the individual, on the other. “The private sector” is a coinage which was intended to sound bad compared to “the public sector.” The word we need actually exists in the language, tho the socialists have labored to evade its proper usage:
SOME writers have so confounded society with government, as to leave little or no distinction between them; whereas they are not only different, but have different origins. Society is produced by our wants, and government by our wickedness; the former promotes our happiness POSITIVELY by uniting our affections, the latter NEGATIVELY by restraining our vices. The one encourages intercourse, the other creates distinctions. The first is a patron, the last a punisher.

Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil . . .- Thomas Paine, Common Sense (1776)

It is not the individual, alone, nor is it the government, which accomplishes things in America and the world.

I, Pencil is an article written in 1958 by Leonard E. Read. The burden of the article is how diffuse are the inputs to make a simple item like a pencil. Of course a particular company - Eberhard Faber, in the example instance - made the pencil. But Mr. Eberhard and Mr. Faber did not simply speak the pencil into existence; the company has to have buildings housing machinery, and workers to operate the machines. But beyond that, the Eberhard Faber workers have to have food, shelter, and normal amenities - including those required by their families.

And the same is true of the vendors who supply Eberhard Faber with the machinery they require, and all the obvious materials - wood, graphite, rubber, and the ferrule material and the enamel. All those vendors have their own equipment, workers, and supply chain. And in all cases the workers need food, shelter, and normal amenities. So although the pencil certainly does not exist without Eberhard Faber, society - people working cooperatively and voluntarily - together to make the pencil.

It is perfectly true that Steve Jobs had a lot of help making the iPhone. It is also true, however, that the role of the government in the process was, while not nonexistent, very easy to overstate. Ms. Pelosi herself, in all her efforts in Congress over the course of decades, never - I venture to say - lifted a finger specifically with the objective of furthering the development of the iPhone as such. Steve Jobs, and not any government factotum, had the vision - say rather, labored to create the vision - of the iPhone. He then enlisted cooperation from many others - chip makers, researchers, designers - to give that vision concrete, readily producible form. He then proceeded to convince a great many people to pay to obtain an iPhone.

And the government, certainly Nancy Pelosi, undertook none of the risk of the entire venture. The government’s contributions, such as they were, were in comparison utterly unfocused and unfruitful.


16 posted on 06/11/2016 4:25:51 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: Swordmaker; Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; amigatec; AppyPappy; arnoldc1; ...
Pelosi thinks we should blame our computer troubles on the Feds instead of Microsoft... PING!

You can find all the Windows Ping list threads with FR search: just search on keyword "windowspinglist".

Why give the government CREDIT for the good things, without them accepting the blame for the bad things as well?!?!

Thanks to Swordmaker for the ping!!

22 posted on 06/13/2016 5:30:23 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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