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How Orlando divides America
The Globe and Mail ^ | June 13, 2016 | Margaret Wente

Posted on 06/14/2016 8:15:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Today, 9/11 seems as if it happened in another century. After the planes hit the towers, Americans stood united in their grief and solidarity. They cast aside their partisanship to mourn the dead.

Orlando was different. The bodies were scarcely cold by the time the shouting began. On the Sunday talk shows, people sounded as if they were talking about two entirely different events. “ISIS VS. US” blared the headline in the New York Post on Monday, invoking the spectre of a global jihad. The Daily News blamed guns. “Thanks, NRA,” it shrilled.

In the immediate aftermath, Donald Trump blamed radical Islam but refused to mention the word “guns.” Barack Obama blamed guns and terror but couldn’t bring himself to mention the words radical Islam.

The Orlando massacre is undoubtedly a windfall for the Trump campaign. He’s thumping his chest for looking prescient. It will fire up his anti-Muslim blather and harden his support. It also poses a major test for Mr. Obama, Hillary Clinton and the Democrats. If they can’t bring themselves to say that radical Islamist ideology is a challenge to Western values and national security, their credibility will be in tatters....

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: massacre; obama; orlando; trump
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1 posted on 06/14/2016 8:15:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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no, I’m pretty sure we all want the muslims to go away and die. No division.


2 posted on 06/14/2016 8:16:39 PM PDT by ghosthost
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Donald Trump blamed radical Islam but refused to mention the word “guns.”

That's because they're irrelevant, Maggie.

3 posted on 06/14/2016 8:18:11 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The main problem isn’t the weapon of death, it is the person who murders human beings. Guns, knives, rocks, water, bombs.....the evil is the issue here. Much bigger than politics.


4 posted on 06/14/2016 8:23:58 PM PDT by milford421 ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke))
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I’m pretty sure the American people have been united since the massacre in Orlando...Many may not approve of the gay lifestyle, but we all realize that they WERE Americans and were killed by an Islamist who is with those who want to wage war against America...

Maybe the stupid media is divided or wants us divided...Maybe the “professional politicians” are divided and just want to hear themselves rant and rail...

But, We, the people, are united against these ME vermin...


5 posted on 06/14/2016 8:24:04 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only division there is in the uniparty, and they are the ones causing the problem...Hillary, RINO RYAN, Mitch McConnell, Hussein, and those people and the media twits that would have you believe this...

Trump said in his speech yesterday that if you live in America, your part of America, and that includes the Gay Rights people...

Black Lives Matters is a break off of the Hussein group, they don’t want to work, they want to roam the streets at night and cause trouble...because Hussein and his partner could have done so much to help them, and they turned their backs on them, gave them this and gave them that to shut them up...Hussein and his partner was to busy going golfing, spending millions of dollars on vacations all over the world...entertaining high off the hog...

This has to end and it has to end now, if your not for Trump, then your for Hillary...it’s that simple...


6 posted on 06/14/2016 8:24:17 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump; Trump; Trump; Trump; 100%)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Orlando is the catalyst. Obama, and all he stands for, is the disease.


7 posted on 06/14/2016 8:25:20 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

(Trump’s) blather: long winded talk without making sense

I guess Maggie wrote this stuff before Obama’s psychotic ranting earlier today.


8 posted on 06/14/2016 8:26:16 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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They cast aside their partisanship to mourn the dead.

And then there were those that said Bush and Cheney did it.

9 posted on 06/14/2016 8:44:09 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The DemocRATS blame Americans. Americans blame the Muzzies. Americans lose.


10 posted on 06/14/2016 8:50:34 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (When was the last time you heard a celebrity say, If Trump wins, I'm moving to MEXICO!)
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To: Talisker

And he didn’t mention pressure cookers after the Boston Marathon, Maggie.

The sword is not the killer, it is the tool in the killer’s hand.


11 posted on 06/14/2016 8:52:33 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If guns had been used in the 911 attack we’d be where we are today.


12 posted on 06/14/2016 8:58:08 PM PDT by ealgeone
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Moslems murdered plenty of people before guns were invented. They don’t need guns, they have bombs, airplanes, cars, poison gas germ warfare, swords, gasoline, cages with pools, etc. Guns are convenient here, or anywhere there’s a gun free zone, but not necessary.

There are about 400 million guns in this country. Saturday night, about 399,999,900 didn’t kill anyone, nor did about 99,999,900 of America’s 100 million gun owners.


13 posted on 06/14/2016 9:07:26 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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I remember many liberals becoming unhinged after 9/11, including Obama, Madonna, and some friends of mine. Conservatives by and large were supportive of the country and the victims and the President. Liberals were the ones, like now, who wanted to blame everyone but the muslim terrorists.


14 posted on 06/14/2016 9:48:54 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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"But, We, the people, are united against these ME vermin..."

AND administration vermin, AND media vermin!

15 posted on 06/14/2016 10:08:05 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Kerry, Barry, and Cankles need to be hung by their heels, after trial and conviction for Treason!)
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To: chajin

Obamanoma.


16 posted on 06/14/2016 10:09:20 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Kerry, Barry, and Cankles need to be hung by their heels, after trial and conviction for Treason!)
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To: ghosthost
no, I’m pretty sure we all want the muslims to go away and die. No division.

I'm cool with go away/not welcome cuz failed civilization regarding Muslims deported back to their shitholes their kind of people create.
As to whether they die, it's of little concern once they're finally gone back to their homelands where Muslims will skin them alive and snack on fresh human jerky.
Islam and Muslims are completely incompatible with forming effective societies under which human life can survive, let alone capable of coping with civilization.
It's not much more complicated than that.

17 posted on 06/14/2016 10:57:57 PM PDT by BloodScarletMinnesota
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Such a business should have a gun.

or three.


18 posted on 06/14/2016 11:12:12 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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How did outlawing guns in London prevent that poor British soldier from getting his head chopped off by a rabid Muslim in London Proper, Maggie?


19 posted on 06/14/2016 11:19:16 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Right after 9/11, when the government did NOT round up all foreign born peoples from terroist nations and gently escort them out of the country, we knew the game was up. Fighting with each other is all that is left.


20 posted on 06/15/2016 4:55:12 AM PDT by Wolfie
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